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Hopefully he clears and tears it up in Abby. Depending on other cuts I think he'd still be one of the top call ups. He's only 22, he'll get his shot with us or someone else. What I don't like about this is that with the new cross checking penalty/confusion, he's the ideal guy to drop in front of the net on the PP for either a screen, deflection or mucky goal, but can also draw penalties there because of his sizeable, aggressive presence. Perhaps the veteran experience of Chiasson is what's kept him with the PTO. Could provide some of the young'uns with guidance, but I'd still rather see JG in the lineup.
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It’s difficult to say who’s at fault in these situations. If you’re training staff, you look out for both the player’s health and future (even if they are a commodity) while balancing the team’s reliance and expectation on said player, as well as investment. If they are an integral piece and they are asking for something to help them with being banged up, or emotional/mental issues, or even if it’s just to get some rest and recuperation, it’s usually the player seeking out that help. Easy to place blame on the staff but these are professional athletes who are also attempting to extend their careers for as long as possible, while managing the expectation they place on themselves, their agent has on them, as well as family/dependents. From what I’ve seen and understood, it’s usually the players who are the ones initiating, and I’m sure in this day and age lines often do get blurred, but it’s not like the dressing rooms double as dispensaries or pharmacies. The onus shouldn’t just be placed on the staff. If Tom Sestito received painkillers, it’s because he initially asked for them or something of the sort. If he abused them, especially in his chosen role as enforcer, the role that (in lieu of advanced skill) he knew was going to keep him in the NHL and making a good salary, then it’s also his responsibility to realize and acknowledge on his own if he has a problem. He’s paid to do a job, and insurance covers him and the team if he’s unable. Hard for me to feel sorry for a grown man who is ultimately responsible for his own actions. I’m sorry, I just don’t buy in to making someone else responsible for your own shortcomings and/or weaknesses. I don’t care how it played out. He wouldn’t have been given medications if he didn’t assert that he felt they were helping him. To put it bluntly, he led the league in PIMs, with a ton of fighting majors. He accepted that role. No one forced him to play hockey. Yes, addictions/dependencies absolutely need to be monitored closely, as do personal decisions. SOB, JV, Kassian are all examples of just some of the guys that the team tried to help out, but their own actions eventually derailed their own careers. I think the same applies when it comes to prescription drug abuse. I was fortunate growing up in that my dad’s best friend was Larry Ashley, head trainer of the Nux for I think 13 or 14 years. I never use the term, but he truly was an amazing guy and the only “uncle” I’ve ever had. He afforded me the opportunity to really see the game behind the scenes. He allowed me to help out at two full Canucks training camps (plus LA’s first camp with 99) and it gave me real insight as to the relationships between staff and players, and between an individual player and themselves. My dad’s two other close friends were Ron Delorme and Joel Quenneville. I’ve spent a lot of time with all 3 and I can say this much…when the game evolved out of the late 80s/early 90s from being a sport to becoming a business is when the players mentality changed. The financial opportunity has escalated so much that there is obviously far more at stake now. And like I said earlier, the longer you’re in the game, the more money you make, and that’s the prevailing ambition for most players even if it means numbing the pain along the way to do so (cortisone, painkillers, alcohol, etc). That is their choice. They can always quit hockey and choose health over profession, but more often than not it’s their own hubris that extends their careers. I just hope in this cancel culture age where players are making these crazy amounts of money, folks are able to step back and realize that it’s a choice to become a pro athlete, not a mandate, and that for the most part it’s the individual’s decision on how to best manage their own self to achieve their goals. Just because they are idolized doesn’t mean they’re exempt from making poor personal decisions, mismanaging the help or advice they are given, or being aware of and asking for help with their own character faults. Just my humble opinion.
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I just don’t want to see the club being made an example of especially when this is an obvious and common occurrence amongst all professional sports leagues. If the NHL quickly becomes a “problem child” it’ll be interesting to see who goes after the NFL. Toronto based media would have a field day riding this if the Canucks become the league scapegoat.
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Tom Sestito (former Canuck enforcer) is adding his story to the mix now regarding his experience with the supply and abuse of prescription pain killers amongst the NHL. Seeing as he played the bulk of his career with Vancouver, it’ll be interesting to see how the organization responds. https://ca.yahoo.com/news/former-canucks-enforcer-tweets-insane-013319896.html Former Canucks enforcer tweets about 'insane' amount of Toradol and Ambien he was given in NHL Mon, October 4, 2021, 6:33 PM Vancouver's Tom Sestito (left) fights with Edmonton's Luke Gazdic on Oct. 5, 2013. (Jonathon Hayward/The Canadian Press - image credit) Former Vancouver Canucks enforcer Tom Sestito says the amount of Toradol and Ambien he was given during his NHL career was "insane." The now-retired player made the comments on Twitter in response to Vegas Golden Knights' goalie Robin Lehner tweeting that "many other teams" give out benzodiazepines and Ambien — medications typically used to treat insomnia — to players without prescriptions. "Good for @RobinLehner standing up for the greater good, I can only speak for myself, the amount of vitamin T (Toradol) and Ambien I was given is insane. As the NHL is getting a lot younger these kids should know what they are walking into," said Sestito. Toradol is a prescription, non-steroidal pain killer. Sestito played 154 games in the NHL, including 103 games with Vancouver where he led the league in penalty minutes during his first Canucks season in 2013-14. He also spent time with the Columbus Blue Jackets, Philadelphia Flyers and the Pittsburgh Penguins. Through his agent, Sestito declined an interview request. In a follow up tweet he talked about how, as a fringe NHL player, he was once given a bottle of Toradol. He did not specify where he was playing at the time. ..."after taking them I felt amazing. Not a pain in my body, you're taught to believe that the doctors have your best interest where that's not always the case. And no they don't explain all the drugs they provide." Overuse of Toradol has been reported across a number of professional sports. Last year, former Vancouver Canucks star Ryan Kesler told TSN's Rick Westhead he had been diagnosed with Crohn's disease which doctors believe was caused by Toradol abuse during his playing days. Sestito said it took him close to a year of being off Ambien "to learn how to sleep again." He gave credit to the Pittsburgh Penguins, the final NHL team he played on, for helping wean him off the drugs. "...there are great organizations in the NHL, @penguins team of doctors were the ones to get me off all that $&!#, and were dumbfounded as to why I had all of it to begin with," he tweeted.
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Robin Lehner Makes Some Serious Accusations
RWJC replied to Thrillhaus's topic in General Hockey Discussion
Tom Sestito (former Canuck enforcer) is adding his story to the mix now regarding the supply and abuse of prescription drugs in the NHL: https://ca.yahoo.com/news/former-canucks-enforcer-tweets-insane-013319896.html Former Canucks enforcer tweets about 'insane' amount of Toradol and Ambien he was given in NHL Mon, October 4, 2021, 6:33 PM Vancouver's Tom Sestito (left) fights with Edmonton's Luke Gazdic on Oct. 5, 2013. (Jonathon Hayward/The Canadian Press - image credit) Former Vancouver Canucks enforcer Tom Sestito says the amount of Toradol and Ambien he was given during his NHL career was "insane." The now-retired player made the comments on Twitter in response to Vegas Golden Knights' goalie Robin Lehner tweeting that "many other teams" give out benzodiazepines and Ambien — medications typically used to treat insomnia — to players without prescriptions. "Good for @RobinLehner standing up for the greater good, I can only speak for myself, the amount of vitamin T (Toradol) and Ambien I was given is insane. As the NHL is getting a lot younger these kids should know what they are walking into," said Sestito. Toradol is a prescription, non-steroidal pain killer. Sestito played 154 games in the NHL, including 103 games with Vancouver where he led the league in penalty minutes during his first Canucks season in 2013-14. He also spent time with the Columbus Blue Jackets, Philadelphia Flyers and the Pittsburgh Penguins. Through his agent, Sestito declined an interview request. In a follow up tweet he talked about how, as a fringe NHL player, he was once given a bottle of Toradol. He did not specify where he was playing at the time. ..."after taking them I felt amazing. Not a pain in my body, you're taught to believe that the doctors have your best interest where that's not always the case. And no they don't explain all the drugs they provide." Overuse of Toradol has been reported across a number of professional sports. Last year, former Vancouver Canucks star Ryan Kesler told TSN's Rick Westhead he had been diagnosed with Crohn's disease which doctors believe was caused by Toradol abuse during his playing days. Sestito said it took him close to a year of being off Ambien "to learn how to sleep again." He gave credit to the Pittsburgh Penguins, the final NHL team he played on, for helping wean him off the drugs. "...there are great organizations in the NHL, @penguins team of doctors were the ones to get me off all that $&!#, and were dumbfounded as to why I had all of it to begin with," he tweeted. -
I wonder if he’ll get offered a 2way deal and then turn it down to continue his pursuit in a full time role with an NHL club…
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[GDT/PGT - Preseason] Vancouver @ Calgary Friday, Oct. 1/21 6:00 PM PST
RWJC replied to -AJ-'s topic in Canucks Talk
As a poster previously mentioned, I’d like to see Gadj get a shot as net front presence on PP2. Been a while since we had somebody with size and hands that can not only take that abuse but dish it out in that spot too, not to mention screen the G. -
[GDT/PGT - Preseason] Vancouver @ Calgary Friday, Oct. 1/21 6:00 PM PST
RWJC replied to -AJ-'s topic in Canucks Talk
I think as fans we’ve been incredibly fortunate to have success with some very, very young players recently. So much so, that they are now part of the leadership group in their very early 20’s. I don’t know or why but it seems like so many people have almost unattainable expectation and standards for our young guys who are just about to crack the lineup now as well. Ppl already railing on Podz and his potential? Are you effin serious?!? Please quit the entitled fan BS because his play hasn’t quite yet met your own ridiculous self-imposed expectation. Get over yourselves. It’s weak and tired and dull, not to mention incredibly shortsighted. The kid came here to play. He chose this team. Give him all the time he needs. He’s a product of a Russian system that almost succeeded in keeping him buried over there because they didn’t want to let him go. He was forced to play a certain style, under tight control, the toyed with, and to a point punished. Now he will get a real chance to adapt his game. Let him gain his confidence. His ability to communicate in ENGLISH. And to acclimatize to the team. And maybe let’s start to provide the same respect to Gadj, Boner and even OJ. Not everyone is Quinn or Petey, and if you think their arc should be then maybe you should stick with EA sports where at least you can fulfill your own narcissistic wet dreams at your own free will. It’s brutally embarrassing. -
[GDT/PGT - Preseason] Vancouver @ Calgary Friday, Oct. 1/21 6:00 PM PST
RWJC replied to -AJ-'s topic in Canucks Talk
What he really should give Baumer is a one way ticket and a ride to the airport. -
[GDT/PGT - Preseason] Vancouver @ Calgary Friday, Oct. 1/21 6:00 PM PST
RWJC replied to -AJ-'s topic in Canucks Talk
Keepin it clean… -
[GDT/PGT - Preseason] Vancouver @ Calgary Friday, Oct. 1/21 6:00 PM PST
RWJC replied to -AJ-'s topic in Canucks Talk
Stick to cat pizza. You’re gonna mess up your digestion there, buddy. -
Elias Pettersson | Quinn Hughes - Contract Discussion Thread
RWJC replied to Bertuzzipunch's topic in Canucks Talk
There’s time and cap space to use to address that if Hamonic doesn’t play. There’s also some upcoming roster cuts and moves post camp across the NHL that the Nux can benefit from. Kraken have some tough decisions on D and we can take advantage of that to add to our depth even more. -
Elias Pettersson | Quinn Hughes - Contract Discussion Thread
RWJC replied to Bertuzzipunch's topic in Canucks Talk
Are we down to Nate Schmidt nano seconds yet??? And if so, should they be called nanoschmidts? -
Further to that, it’s favourable to take players from within development and give them an opportunity to advance and prove their worth. Players on the farm have to feel that they are working towards a real chance of something. Gadj is young with size and some hands and grit. It’s a no-brainer to give this guy a shot this season and if need be, shape him into a role that the team is in deficit of (eg. PK, grit guy, etc). In Gadj’s case, he’s earned it imho. He’s stood up for his teammates and was also a dominant force. He needs a good taste of next level to continue to improve on that. It’s a beacon to some other guys that if they put in the effort and continue to grind it out they will get their shot. Morale boost.
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[Waivers] 21 players - Sept. 30, 2021
RWJC replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
So bad, but still gave me a laugh. You’re fired. -
Anybody have a valid link for online stream? Thank you!!!!!
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nailed it.
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First off, no one’s bullying anyone. You are totally entitled to your opinions and if you are indeed generally positive or balanced as you mention, then kudos! Seriously, no joke. It’s far more constructive than the constant, redundant critiquing by some posters. But you chose to voice that opinion on a public message board and so it’s only fair people are allowed to comment on your statements. Again, you’re not being bullied, nor should anyone feel the need to coddle. All I’m saying is it’s day 2 of camp! No one really knows what’s up with Hamonic so it’s pointless to speculate. Hughes will be returning. We have solid NHL experience on the back end: Myers: 758 OEL: 769 Schenn: 797 Poolman: 120 Hunt: 191 Add in an emerging Rathbone, or OJ, plus Hamonic when/if he returns (or whomever is brought in from elsewhere to replace him. Plus, we have added a new D coach with a strong pedigree. it ain’t so bad. With the new additions and improvements at F, Sutter’s mins would likely be sheltered anyway and he’d be used for defensive faceoffs and PK. We brought in Dickinson to play those minutes and take over that role. It’s his time. Motte will be missed, but how do you also expect to find valuable minutes for guys like Hoglander, Podz, Garland, and to an extent guys like Pearson? These “losses” you are so worried about are actually creating opportunity for our other players and for our future. We have depth and that needs to be explored. I just don’t understand your concern, that’s all. Its a little premature, imho. I’d say just try and enjoy that we have hockey back, that it’s an exciting time, and that you’re healthy enough to be able to the follow the team during the time of a pandemic. Be thankful, ya know?
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Nah I’m not worried one bit. You see, as a seasoned Nux fan you learn to temper expectation and measure success over the course of the season. Traditionally this team also tends to have a slow start out of the gate. I also view it differently in that if some of our core is unavailable immediately, then it’s a great time to suss out organizational depth, who’s progressed in their development, and who or what we might have come the inevitable injury time. It’s also a chance to check out new/alternate line combos. And just as important it allows for some guys to take that step into a leadership role with the club where those shoes may have been filled by others who aren’t yet at camp. With regard to vitriolic responses, that’s not the case either. I’m just tired of and bored with the folks who can’t seem to balance the good with the bad and instead use their own negative projections to taint what actually is a very promising time for the team. If you’re so concerned after two days of camp then perhaps you should take a look at PIT (no Crosby, no Malkin) or some other club in a much worse position. Maybe that’ll settle your own anxieties down enough that you can take a step back, pull your head out, have a look around and take a deep breath and realize it’s allllll ok.
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ahhhh yes, likely the source of your “lingering black cloud”…
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Off-season: recuperate and eventually resume light to moderate training. Approaching end of off season: increase strength and conditioning activity/dry land training to prep for training camp. Training camp: re-familiarize the body/muscle memory with NHL calibre practices and increase stamina/conditioning until back to game speed. Hence the name “training camp”. It’s day 1 of camp. The reflexes and skills will return through practice. The bag skate (a great tool) at the end reminds the guys that the off-season is over and subconsciously it drives a pro athlete to shift gears mentally. It’s just as much a psychological tool as it is a current stamina/endurance assessor. Nothing wrong with it.
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Thank you. Kinda pathetic of ppl to jump all over this like they even have the slightest clue as to what is going on.
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Not just that but these are pro athletes. First few days back at camp. They know their bodies. I’d rather see OEL pacing himself on the bag skate for now than tearing a groin. Training camp serves this exact purpose. To PREPARE for the upcoming season and reintegrate into the pace of it. Anyone criticizing that video needs a time out in the corner, imho.