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lets not get ahead of ourselves, it will be a few years before this team is ready to win championships. I too am happy with the management decisions, i think they are the perfect moves. But its still the players we have on the ice that will be the major factor. After watching LA, Chicago, Ducks, etc, the Canucks are nowhere near this level in work ethic or talent. The Sedins seem to have lost a step, our goaltending is uncertain at this stage, we dont have enough guys that can bury the puck, and now we likely have to trade our hardest working player. I think people are jumping the gun here, and need to give the new management a couple years before high level results are expected.

didnt see the game today, but just wanted to chime in that Im really happy Muni Kawasaki is back. The guy is all good hearted energy. And i feel hes earned some more time with the big club - he was clutch at times last year, and he can really work the count. Hope they can get on the sticks a bit more tomorrow, important to win against the Yankees Wednesday.

I wouldnt deal Bautista either. He doesnt seem to be seeing the ball well lately, but when hes on, hes lethal, and his defense is always good. Plus I wouldnt mess with the Dominican chemistry the team has. The only player i would deal right now is Rasmus. We have enough home run hitters, im liking the speed and small ball that Gose delivers in the 9th spot, assuming he can keep it up. Plus it will free up salary to keep Lind at the end of the year, man can he hit and true blue Jay. Id like to see him get more of a chance against Lefties. Francisco was a good acquisition while Lind was out and has played great. But i like Lawrie at 3rd more, and Francisco is a stike out machine. Im not sure how long theyll be a place for him. Those are small quibbles however, this team has been a lot of fun to watch this year, firing on all cylinders right now. The improved starting pitching has been a nice surprise, as well as, the patience at bat. Lol, every critic predicted they would finish last - its still early, and there will be ups and downs, but im hoping they embarrass the critics. Plus ill admit when im wrong and right. I thought they should get rid of Milky at the end of last year, now im glad they didnt. Its becoming more bovious that he was plagued by injuries last year, and hes hitting great now. Wasnt sure they should keep Gibbons either, but hard to see whats going on in the clubhouse, and you cant argue with this seasons results, so far. I will pat myself on the back for my post at the end of the season last year though, where i said that they were going to have a better year this year, because i could see better chemistry at the end of last year, and you cant expect to slap a bunch a talented players from different places and expect them to perform as a team right away. Again, fingers crossed this continues.

some early concerns, even though they are 4-4. Starting rotation is not good enough, not as strong as the other teams in the AL East. I expect decent years from Buerle and Dickey, as for the others guys its just wait and see. its nice to see Milky and Bautista hit some long balls early, but i think the team relies on the long ball too much for runs. A lot of power hitters, but not enough get on base and move the runners around type of hitting. Maybe Reyes back will make a difference there. If jays start tanking early, replace Gibbons. I dont know how he kept his job after last year. What does management have against Kawasaki, hes a sparkplug, clutch hitter, and fan favorite, hes earned some playing time. Those are my concerns but i still think it will be a better year than last year. The players have had time to find chemistry with each other now. Its also likely that they will be healthier than last year, barring a lot of bad luck. Im glad they upgraded at catcher too. Bullpen is still great.

Time for my top 12 albums of 2013: 1. Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds - Push the sky away I surprised myself with how much i enjoyed this. Had never really got into Nick Cave before. But this album clicked from the get-go, and Im still not tired of it. Mellow, meaningful, well crafted, etc 2. Daft Punk - Random Access Memories This album has lived in the car CD player since it was released. Great hooks, as you would expect, and an eclectic mix of moody songs, experimental songs, and dance pop songs. 3. Hayden - Us Alone One the most underrated artists of the last 20 years, here he delivers again. Touching raw folk rock at its best. And hes a master live if you ever get to see him. 4. Bill Callahan - Dream River Had never even heard of him until a month ago, and this album already makes my #4 slot. Great voice, lyrics, and interesting slice of americana. 5. Bear Mountain - XO What a find this was. First album from this Vancouver electronica/pop band. Every song is catchy and hook ridden. 6. Sigur Ros - Kveikur Grew on me with every listen and became regular bed time music. A more edgy effort by Sigur Ros, and still moving. Their best since Takk. 7. Edwyn Collins - Understated Remember the 'A Girl like you' song from the Empire Records Soundtrack? Well he makes albums and hes been doing it for a while. This is one of his best. 8. Ben Lee - Ayahuasca This album got no attention, had trouble even finding a good image. Lee here veers away from his usual straight ahead pop, and infuses world music, instrumentals, and other singers. Interesting and enjoyable. 9. Brendan Canning - You Gots 2 Chill A late year addition for me from this core Broken Social Scene member. A really nice pleasant warm fuzzy collection of acoustic songs. Feels like hes just noodling on his front porch and recorded it, yet it works. 10. Eels - Wonderful, Glorious My first impression was this this album is really spotty and far from one of his best. I still think that. But the songs that i do like, i like so much and listened to so much, and i simply had to give this album a spot. 11. Volcano Choir - Repave Its not as good as Bon Iver, but everything Justin Vernon touches is moving. For a side project, its pretty good. 12. Fuzz - Fuzz Good psychedelic rock.

Will contirbute a top ten. Still a few releases to listen to though.

Good analysis RUPERTKBD Agree with your assessments on catcher, pitchers, and the good outlook for next year. Not so sure about Gibbons though. The right presence can suddenly make everyone gel together, look at what Farrell did in Boston. Gibbons did have to contend with a lot of injuries though, as well as new players, and it takes time for players to work with each other. Im a little mystified that they let Kawasaki go, thats a big wtf? Hes the kind of guy that can bring a team together, and i thought he played really well. Not happy with that. Heard rumours that bautista may be traded as well. Sure his numbers havent been as good the last couple of years primarily due to injuries, but they better get a young and good RBI producer if they do trade him, otherwise i dont see the point.

would be for me too, their first 5 albums are brilliant (yield being my favorite). Their last three, including the new one, does very little for me.

not true. Ive seen them live several times, and whats so great about them live is you never know what youre going to get, and they reach into their entire back catalogue. They also change their set lists show to show (order and songs). Whatever the case, theres always something for everybody as they put on long shows (usually about 3 hours), and will throw in many deep cuts and many classics.

really enjoying the new Bill Callahan - Dream River intimate acoustic americana. solid album

I think Lights of Endangered Species is his best solo album to date. Very melodic, consistent, and in imo it maintains the dark melancholic vibe of his past few. However, the new one 'Arrows of desire' is completely missing the mark for me, it tries to be rocking but its lacking melody and the songs are pretty weak.

Im glad management threw in the towel early and began playing prospects, although they were partly forced into that position by injuries. Sierra looks like hell be a great player for the Jays in the future, and Gose and Goins showed promise as well, especially defensively. Pillar struggled, but give him more time. Im not as pessimistic about next year as you might think. Its a year now after many changes, and i think the chemistry can grow. We definitely have some keepers in the hitting order - Reyes, Bautista, Encarnacion (another great year by him), and Lind, Rasmus, and Lawrie proved that they can be solid starters with their hot stretches - they just have to be more consistent, and these guys gotta find a way to get hot at the same time. Id absolutely sign Rajai Davis too - man, can he generate runs with his speed. Id keep Kawasaki too - he proved clutch as times, and well hes a real fun character. Whos got to go? Arencibia was awful - all year. Cant hit for the life of him, especially when theres men on base. I dont think Thole is the answer either though, he cant hit either. We need a catcher. Milky has got to go too, slow and lazy on the basepaths and weak defensively, no power, and average hitter. Starting pitching is our weakest area. Dickey and Buerle were ok, and theyll be back next year, but we were expecting better than 'ok'. And i dont see that changing much next year. Redmond showed some good potential at the end of the year, i can see him making it in next year. Esmil Rogers was a bit of an enigma, it was either a great game or an awful game from him. Jack Johnson was a disaster. Happ was average. Not worried about the bullpen. Definitely the brightest spot of the year. Some of them were less effective in the last half, but i believe its due to overuse. Janssen was terrific as the closer, only one blown save. Id fire Gibbons. Theres enough talent on the team that you have to see if someone else can bring it all together. It mystified me when reports came out that hed be the Jays manager again next year. Id keep Alex Anthopolous, was this disaster really his fault? He did what he could to build a better team. Id give him one more year, unless he keeps gibbons or trades from my keeper list. Thats my year end report.

pretty much i agree with you, but id put Cecil and Delabar on the keeper list, why trade our only good pitching for something that might not work out (see this year's additions). Id be willing to trade Lawrie as well i suppose, but we really havent seen enough of him this year to make a good call there. Encarnacion has been our best hitter and RBI man and is by far the #1 keeper in my mind. Really have no solution to our starting pitching woes though. God, have they been awful, and the main reason for the Jays problems. I dont know, draft well? build from within? could be years though. Signing free agents clearly isnt working.

been listening to the new release by the Vancouver band Bear Mountain. Good slice of indie pop/electronica. Bear Mountain - XO

What happened to our good starting pitching? what happened to our hitting (besides Encarnacion being out, which is a big loss)? the only part of the team still clicking is the bullpen

this was a game the jays should have had. Decent pitching, but a failure to cash in runners in scoring position, and of course the game ending error by Thole in the 9th. Tough one to lose. Good news that Reyes is starting to find a groove again, Bautista seems to be heating up, and Davis has been excellent both in hitting and on the base paths. Hopefully Lind isnt out for long, we need him.

I wouldnt keep your hopes up. Boston's hitting is simply better than the jays, theres no breaks in their lineup. If the Jays pitch better than Wang yesterday, theres a small chance. Im hoping for either a split of one win, well still have a chance even if thats the case.

not a great effort by anybody, should have taken advantage of all those early walks no reason to be down on the team yet, but hope its not the beginning of a slump

What an exciting finish. Kawasaki with his first career homer at a clutch time, and Davis with the winning hit. Izturis with a couple big hits too, just further showing how important the bottom of the order and the bench have been in this streak. Dickey with another subpar start, but the bullpen keeps them in it. 9 straight!

Not excited at the prospect of moving down one of Bonifacio, DeRosa, Kawasaki, or Davis All have been great parts of the Jays turn around. I do believe you put Reyes back in, he's a strong offensive player, and will help the Jays. Dont really want to see Lawrie replace any of those four guys in the order. Anyway, i would send down someone from the bullpen, but theyve been great as well. But the main bullpen guys can hold the ship together. How awesome has Cecil been? Janssen is great as a closer, but i think that Cecil would have that role if it wasnt for Janssen or will have that role in the future. Loup's been great as well, and a real surprise considering he was virtually an unknown player before this year.

I agree Wilbur, drugs dont necessarily make you see the ball better, you just drive it further. Plus, i highly doubt Lind is that kind of player, he's always struck me as a real character guy. Lets give credit where credit is due, hes back in the form he was a few years ago, playing great.

I would trade them, my two least favorite players on the team - Arencibia the strike out king, and Lawrie mr attitude. But we wouldnt get much for them, neither has been the least bit impressive this year.

understood, and agreed rain out today

Best albums Ive heard this year Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Push the sky away - Great lyrics and hooks, just great songs in general, the whole way through. If you havent heard this one yet, you havent been paying attention to new music. Hayden - Us Alone - This underrated canadian folk rocker delivers again. Beautiful album, almost as good as 2007's In Field & Town. Saw him live at the RIo Theatre recently and it was the best show iv seen in a while, funny story telling, nice fan interaction, and of course great songs Daft Punk - Random Access Memories - Acclaimed? yes Popular? yes, but these guys deserve all the attention they get. Whereas electronica has become soulless, these guys continue to offer heart and humanity behind the beats, and of course still deliver the hooks like few in their genre can. Edwin Collins - Understated - I had never tried Edwyn Collins, though i was always aware of his existence. Just knew him from his 'Girl like you' song which was on the Empire Records soundtrack. Glad i picked up his new one, its really good. He's got a great voice, and the songs are consistently good. It definitely gets better with every listen. Decent albums Kurt Vile - Waking on a Pretty Daze As a whole, its a nice laid back and chilled out piece, that serves as very good background music. Not saying i dont like it, i think its decent and i like how he stretches out the songs, but when i feel like listening to a single song to groove to on my ipod, i probably will revert to his previous album Eels - Wonderful, Glorious Inconsistent, some great songs like the title track and Peach Blossoms, others i skip over. Love the Eels, but he hasnt delivered a consistent effort since Blinking Lights & other Revelations Disappointments Johnny Marr - The Messenger Not really feeling this. The instrumentation all kind of overlaps and blurs together, and his voice is bland. Couple decent songs, but nowhere near the level of a Modest Mouse or Smiths album. Mark Lanegan & Duke Garwood - Black Pudding - bunch of bluesy throwaways. Love Lanegan, but unfortunely theres not much memorable here, besides a couple instrumentals The Ocean - Pelagial - I dont know, maybe im just not that into metal. Thought id like this though, but the vocals in particular do little for me. I can see metalheads being all over this, but not for me French Films - White Orchid - Not much here worth coming back to. Was recommended to me on another forum, but i dont get it. Supposed to be a The Cure sounding type effort. Born Ruffians - Birthmarks - Decent album, much better than their last one. But not up to par with their outstanding debut album. Poppy indie stuff, starts strong, but a few songs in takes a nosedive. The National - Trouble will find me - Might need more listens as High Violet really grew on me. But so far, i find it to be mood pieces without the stunning sense of melody and atmospherics that they usually bring. Couple good songs though.

Cant tell if you're being sarcastic, but if you are, one clutch homer does not make up for his terrible batting average with runners in scoring position, and the horrible swings hes been taking. I do hope he turns it around, but its so depressing and infuriating watching him go up to bat with runners up game after game and seeing him strike out. Decent catcher, can throw out runners, but these days in the majors, catchers must be able to hit as well. Your defense?