BedBeats™2.0

Message me. Drinking is my only solace with all this unecessary drama.

Im in the same dream world, except im at a bar getting wasted gearing up for a possible dark time in this ownerships steed. Ill save you a seat and buy you a shot.

Linden: No Nazzy: Maybe in a lesser role. Feaster: Not my cup of tea. Current list of assistant GM's on good, current NHL clubs. For sure. Interview them. Cam Neely: Hell yeah.

Fire a GM before the season ends? Even if its one the worst in the recent past? You are out to lunch if you think this move warrants merit. MG's Hockey-ops team nearly doubled the teams worth.

Weird how Nonis was a knee jerk move and Aquas hire MG. They are going to have it tough attracting a new GM with meddling ownership at the helm. Hockey operations need to stay with Hockey minds. Not ownership treating this team like a vanity project.

Stupid, stupid move. So beyond idiotic.

Those teams shared only a few shared hallmarks: utilizing speed and a north south approach when moving the puck. I wasnt referring to anything that was putting down your suggestion. I really like Mike Johnston. Savvy Hockey mind and has written 3 of the best Hockey books in the last decade plus. I just think its time for him to finally have a crack at a head coaching gig. He has put in his fair share due payment.

You dont remember his 1st tour of duty here in Vancouver?

Rick Nash, Ryan Callahan, Chris Krieder, Marion Gaborik, Derek Stepan, and Brad Richards just threw up a little in their mouths while lulzing at that post.

In an ideal world, AV would have been retained, Bones and Brown would have been replaced by Torts and Stevens.

I still find it so strange that a former Norris winner cannot get his d-corps in line.

If the rumours surfacing that Luigi is stepping in and removing Frank as a roadblock to help MG operate in full capacity are true, then i am hopeful this season was just a failed experiment on Luigi leaving the team open to be messed with when MG is more than capable of running things. I also picked up on Torts throwing MG under the bus regarding depth. Im pretty sure in that same interview he also claimed that he and MG get along like Tina Fey and Amy Poehler. Very telling, and benevolently clumsy words chosen by Torts. Meant to comment earlier about only rolling 3 lines. Not a fan at all. How in the bloody hell do you ever advance in the /season/playoffs without 4 lines? That coupled with what you mentioned about scaling back the talented 2-way forwards PK time for the Sedins is such a recipe for disaster. He should have already known that the Twins have played on the PK under Crow, but their ability is better served in pure offensive roles. Again, if Torts had done his homework and ditched his antiquated belief that players (forwards) want to play as much as possible so they play ungodly minutes, leading to injury susceptibility...then maybe we wouldnt be having these discussions. Heavy minutes are the domain of talented D-men. Even Sids TOI average scaled down as the season went on.

Bergevin, as he was known for his solid pranks as a player, would probably troll MG and ownership for a long time if he ever received that call.

Subtract useful defenceman. Yeahhhhhhhhhh....NO. Seriously that is just stupid. My god people.

I like that breakdown. I actually had forgotten how often he used the "i dont know much about_____" early in the season (actually even before that). Its fair to speculate that Stevens was in fact MG's leading candidate. Why not hire a guy from a Western team who has some prior scouted knowledge of the team. Shoulda,coulda,woulda. Though you would think Gully would have had more of an influence in the direction of the team. But i digress. Torts clearly didnt do enough of the correct homework/scouting when taking this gig. Im sooooo reaching here, i wonder how much interaction there was, even though MG had been stripped (that is fair speculation) of hiring the coach, with Torts being prepped by management? Its only fair to mention that...but could also support the growing theories about Franks meddling. MG played ball with ownership on this one experiment, and he regrets it. -amended edit- *I hated Iron Mike...and what he does NOT bring to teams. Always the same pattern. But to balance your addition on a positive sense; look at what Murray did with the Sens a few seasons back. There were so many calls for him to dismantle the team after the Heatley/Cloutsen debacle. But he stayed the course and made a few minor changes and it served them well.*

You might want to listen to the interview.

Absolutely agree. It was really suprising to hear that from MG. Good on him too. He isnt the perfect GM. But he has been a Hockey guy all of his life, and it must have been frustrating to have to acquiese to ownership in the last off season and live with it thruout the current one. I prefer this real drama than the one created by many last season with Lu. Like sands through the hourglass, these are the off-season days of our lives.

Mentioned those same points in the thread about the user reviewing the Canucks past playoff runs. Though most of everyone in that thread seemed to feel that Hoff is the missing key player for the team right now. And he is not. Aside from the very unlucky injuries that seem to dog this team, i do not think Torts had enough time to really assess what made the team successful. And it is abundantly clear that MG acquiesced to ownership and Torts about the style of play. Torts had time to suss out what was wrong in his coaching eyes to actually see if he can implement his style. He also failed to do his homework on what the Western teams are all about now. And basically they are larger versions of those earlier Gillis rosters. Identical styles of play Many people have just crapped on MG, and some of it deserved. But i feel for the guy when i watched some of those games. I bet the Irish in him wanted to punch Frank in the meddling face when the team was just not playing the way he wanted. I know i felt that way seeing all that talent was slowly emasculated offensively by a coach that has always poorly adapted. The coach is only partly to blame. But he does need to change. As does the roster. Not a wholesale change whatsoever. Just a few tweaks here and there and start meshing in the deserving young guns to be mentored.

How do guys like the OP miss this important point?! Well said.

Yeah!! Let's subtract offense!! Let's totally destroy any semblance of Vancouver Canuck team culture by having the best and developed players in its history walk. Terrible thread.

No kidding. So sick of it. There are always 2-5 of these threads every season.

Underrated. Jeff Carter?