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  1. Well nobody needs to be mentally exhausted from a petty argument, so for that reason I appreciate you taking it outside.
  2. Sorry to see you go, wish I saved my six hours yesterday in light of your decision this morning. ; p
  3. MSG NEWS Depth Chart Edition With so much front office activity at the New York Rangers, we felt it was time to update our depth chart for the big club: New York Rangers Brady Tkachuk, Ryan O'Reilly, Jamie Benn Rasmus Kupari, Victor Rask, Kyle Okposo Nick Cousins, Jujhar Khaira, Adam Erne Casey Mittelstadt, Cody Eakin, Adam Gaudette Justin Bailey Marco Scandella, Justin Faulk Connor Murphy, Shayne Gostisbehere Crhistopher Tanev, Matthew Benning Scott Harrington, Urho Vaakanainen Braden Holtby Ilya Samsonov Lake Cowichan Lakers Michael Rasmussen, Liam Foudy, Dominik Bokk Dmytro Timashov, Thomas Novak, Nicholas Henry Brayden Burke, Tim Soderlund, Sampo Ranta Austin Czarnik, Dale Weise Carl Dahlstrom, Jesper Lindgren Yegor Rykov, Braydon Coburn Parker Wotherspoon, Mitch Eliot Emil Djuse, Filip Westerlund Joseph Woll Kevin Mandolese
  4. MSG NEWS Is it Spring Yet? Edition Having made substantial moves the last few days, The Rangers are re-posting our available players. Notably, Jujhar Khaira, Adam Erne and Connor Murphy have proven to be value players we will be hanging onto. NYR are still working the phones to try to find homes for these great players. Bold names are property of playoff seated teams in the current standings.
  5. That is the thing though, you are working really hard to make this personal when it is a systemic change that will forever change the nature of any GM seeing the 31st position as any benefit at all. It isn't targeting clubs or people whatsoever, it just happens to affect the bottom five or six clubs in whatever year it happens to be implemented. I hate that I am on the losing side of it too, but I understand the 'loss' is really small if at all in that its the loss of a bit of the chance to win a slightly better pick. As i mentioned earlier, i am batting 0.000 on getting a better pick and batting a thousand on having teams behind me in the odds leapfrogging me, so I really thnk you are puttng too much stock in having a better odds to begin with, lol. But yeah it doesn't seem to me to be personal but systemic and it is a good systemic fix to the problem which is the points divide between bottom and top by years end leading to have not and have clubs for generational lengths of time with exceptions due to hard work and luck, luck like winning a lottery as some kind of magic plan. with the changes: keep the pick, you may be surprised to learn that 3 in 15 is really good odds to move up, like 20% or so without doing the harder uni math on statistics lol, more like 24% if i did the rough math right. we will each have almost a 1 in four chance to bump up to top 3, no big deal for this one year it fugs with us bottom guys..and every year from the starting point forward is fair to everyone. lol, I am officially giving myself permission to drop the topic, if i don't I can't shut up. mental health is a terrible thing to lose control of. LOL>
  6. Typical super majorities for a deciding vote are 66.6% +1 (2/3rds) which means 11 GM's would need to be against the change and i just dont see there being that much support for tanking which has always been illegal. shrug. Not that I thnk we should necessarily vote either, just sayin if your going to arbitrarily set the threshold at 80% why not go hole hog and say only if 27 gm's agree? lol it may not pass that way. : p hehe, just having fun at this point, no offense.
  7. the benefit i see from this new rule is that teams will not chase each other to the absolute bottom trying for the best pick. Teams that subtly trade a high point producer for assets for next year and subsequently miss the playoffs will have a shot at the best pick overall by random luck, so there is no need to see a club with 645 points, one with 752 points, and a third with 885 points and a fourth with 943 points and then every other non playoff club with an average of 1100. Teams will stop selling off good assets if they are sunk to the roughly 1000 mark, and only then if they have deemed their club to be non playoff worthy. No need to sell every little scrap of production in order to maximize the odds of Winning McDavid. You can win mcdavid by selling off just that one aging star player, for instance, and that is why i like the rule. we will see non playoff clubs begin to hover around playoff cutoff for points because there is zero incentive to drop any further. Closing the gap from 1st to 31st is a very important goal. I do get that it sucks that it is happening this year, but no matter what year it is implemented, 4 or 5 of us at the bottom will be hurt by it. One thing I just found in chatting this over is that in 3 of the last four years i was in the bottom 4 (probably all four years but i don't have stats for the drft i missed) so the three drafts i was in prior to this past one i was bottom four at the lotto and my pick drafted at 7th, 6th and 4th. Ppoint being that even at the bottom with the better odds: it never paid off for my club (and again I don't tank, i have always just sucked since I took over the club in decline and then made some horrible rookie mistakes up till oh about 2017, lol. Hopefully tomorrow there is a new topic as I have run out of things to say about this one. The pain felt by my club losing some of the odds I had to pick a better player in this particular year are pretty irrelevant which is why I am happy wiht the rule change in general and okay with it being this year in particular.
  8. right now the middle third cut off is 1122 and all but three teams are only 200 points from making it into the middle third. Right now those last three teams are so far tanked that they are kind of screwed, Vegas would need to double its current points to get to 20th overall. no matter what year the rule changes, these worst teams will have to claw their way back to within a shot of that middle third, right? so the year is irrelevant if we all stand back and take a broad general look at it. The new rule itself wills stop any future teams from trying to get intentionally that bad to secure the best possible draftpick, that is where the rule will help future parity, even though future GM's will still make team decisions that they can't really win the cup and so may back off and trade a piece or two to 'try to gerrymander' and not make the playoffs. The funny thing is, as I have proven in CFL with a mediocre club two years in a row I went super deep in the playoffs one year missing hte cup win by 7 points. With a team that any subjective GM would have been iffy on even making the playoffs with, and so may have chosen to tank with. I think for sure we have to revisit this in a few years to see the intended results worked out but I see it as being that most non playoff clubs will end up within a few hundred points of each other while no new teams will be striving to get a prize by being worst, so they will not sell as much if they are trying to subtly avoid the playoffs. Subtely is a good strategy, but there has never been a right to tank in the league, it has just gotten more and more brazen as time goes by that the action was likely necessary by the league. Anywho, I have spent far too much time here now today and am going outside.
  9. but it will stop rewarding being dead worst in any given year. That alone will help incredibly with league parity. In fact, the discussion thus far is proving to me that the reward for being worst is far too high if people are 'fighting' for the right to be worst. LOL. see what I am saying? I enjoy all your ideas, and appreciate being in the discussion but my interest is flagging and I have to do chores. Moving on now. Hopefully everyone can get past which year the bottom five clubs are inconvenienced in and we can see how this works for a few seasons before we look back on the reality of how it worked out and decide if we got our intended results. I expect the divide from 1st to 31st will shrink in points gap dramatically even in the first full year of the rule, and possibly even right now in the final two months before the trade deadline. Some folks think it may get worse, but i fail to see how. My money is on the point gap shrinking making parity closer to reality, and over the far horizon, keeping GML going for another decade, and it is already far longer lasting than most any other keeper league. Small rule changes like this seems to be why it is lasting. Enjoy your day everyone, was good to discuss this without anyone getting totally upset, I appreciate that a lot, the most actually! You are all great folks that love our chosen sport as much as I do, that is awesome and what makes GML awesome.
  10. I know from managing a league that lost too many bodies and from playing in three other leagues for relatively long durations that firing anyone is a silly approach. It is hard enough to find enough eager new GM's who are willing to put the time that is required into a keeper league. It is very much better to bring everyone along than fire or even threaten to fire someone. That is one problem with the 'just fire bad GM's' approach. That and I don't wanna be fired, LOL. also, to be sure, I have lived in the bottom 5 for too many years, and its hard to climb out, still unsure if i am climbing out or just up for a breathe of air at 6th worst for a change.
  11. its only ridiculous the one year, whatever year that happens to be, that the rule change is implemented. It is going to be the same 'bad' for whomever is here where we are now in whatever year it changes, so your only reason for not this year is that you personally are sitting here beside me and some others this year. next year it will be me and someone else...so that is fine by you? lol EDIT: I really dont have a care about the change, as I said, I care about the people and the feelings. Hopefully we can all still get along and have fun which is my goal 100%. OH and for what it is worth, my suggestion about 5 months ago was to make the teams finishing in the last five spots locked into the worst 5 lotto odds by NHL rules and then the other ten teams finishing outside the playoffs get the seeding 31st thru 21st would normally get...that makes finishing last the worst possible thing in a given year. but the league went another direction on it, which is fine.
  12. this is the whole point of the rule change I think. Unless I am missing something the future league benefits from the change in that teams that want to drop a player or two to get a lotto shot don't have to sell everything that isn't bolted down to get to the lotto shot. There will be no prize for worst, which now there is. that is the entire point of the change, I think. remove the prize for being the worst fantasy hockey player. It just sucks for whomever of us happens to be occupying that spot whatever time or year the rule takes effect. I get it, I am normally exactly where you sit in the standings and could be again in a weeks time, haha, but I still think the rule is best for the future of the league, $&!#ty as it is to be affected by its changing while I sit down here at the shallow end.
  13. just for grins: placing, team, picks... Old System: New System, 31 VGK's 1st 18.5%, old system: New system 6.67% 30 MIN's 1st 13.5%, New 6.67% 29 ANA ((no firsts)) 11.5%, New 6.67% 28 TOR's 1st 9.5%, New 6.67% 27 CAR's 1st 8.5%, New 6.67% 26 DAL's 1st 7.5%, New 6.67% 25 NYR's 1st 6.5%, New 6.67% We all have our own first round picks and none of us have any other clubs lotto pick, all the bottom teams with more than their own pick: those picks are playoff clubs picks. The two clubs "harmed" the worst would be Vegas and Minnesota, but the rest of us aren't really losing anything. There was a good point made by Crabby though that while he is down just 3.5% in the odds to win number one overall, the thing of it is that the teams behind him in the lotto now have better overall combined odds of beating him. That is a valid point for sure, but you have to admit it falls a long way short of devastating to your system? we will each still get one of the top 15 picks and the double lotto system now implemented means we all have 6.67% chance of being tied to the best NHL clubs lotto odds. THen there is yet another lotto as the NHL does its thing and we shuffle our positioning to match our NHL buddy clubs lotto placements. I think that alone makes up for the inconvenience of the wrench in the plans that we are looking at as the affected clubs. It is a one time problem this year only that doesn't affect too much for any of us, and is slightly more inconvenient for Vegas and Minny. We have months before the deadline to make trades in the new system to mitigate the change and as I mentioned earlier, this is the one real year that this change doesn't really effect much in that the scouts are not all in agreement about the order of the top 15 picks this coming draft, that is why the NHL is considering bumping this summer draft to January 2022, in case anyone missed that news. All in all, I think it is actually best this year rather than kicking it to next year, even thought that gives us more time to make trades and adjust to the rules, we still have two months now to do that and more after the season and if the draft is punted to 2022 by the NHL we will follow most likely and then you have a year to adjust. All in all yeah its monkeywrench, but the imagined 'disaster' just isn't there as far as i can see, aside from the two lowest standings clubs who lose the most 'odds'. but losing odds at a lotto pick by the time these players get to the NHL is pretty watered down losses. Lastly, using math you will see using hindsight in a year and a half's time that the new system will most likely work out in your favour or similarily in your favour relative to the old system. I will certainly do a look back after the draft at both ways it could have gone and I am gonna guess there isn't much change at all, specifically because 1st to 15th in this unique coming draft class aren't that far apart as they are in other years, and also they are all over the scouts maps due to lack of play time the last 12 months. That is all I have to say, but I think it is obvious I am working more to soothe tempers than for any other reason. I really enjoy the league and all the people in it, we are a great group of folks all together and I wouldn't want to have anyone get so angry they leave. That is my biggest worry in all this, I could care less about the lotto, never have cared as folks will agree I have always strived to rise in the standings even near the trade deadlines. I just suck at that apparently. hahaha. Hopefully the few of us affected can move on and make the changes to our strategies on the fly and then hopefully the league revisits the change in two years sample time and checks to make sure it addressed the situation. I suspect it will work out blissfully after the first draft that the rule change affects, which as pointed out does have some effect on a couple clubs.
  14. valid points in your posts today. I have been a bottom five club for as far back as i dare look. One year I made a surprise playoff appearance. I have always figured I would only trade my first if it made me better, arguably 'NONE of my trades have made me better until maybe recently, but too soon to tell, lol". In future years the new rule doesn't really matter and will certainly lead to teams not selling everything not bolted down in order to drive to the bottom of the standings at double the speed limit, but this year I see it is a bit sticky. I will try to post later the worst five teams or so and their picks and how they will be affected, just to see what it looks like. I haven't seen that yet. My point for replying to this though, back on topic, is that while it may backfire to see more teams trade talent for picks to drop below the playoffs: none of those teams would want to strip it down to the wood in the new rule future because there is zero incentive to ship out talent beyond just barely missing the playoffs. So for me, this rule really works in that it will keep all teams trying to be competitive while allowing the subtle trade here and there to dip down for a lotto shot if your not thinking you have a cup shot. The end result should be far more parity as less clubs fire everyone at the best clubs to get some picks and prospects. With less firesales: clubs will fall less low and be easier to fly back up the following year, but we won't know until we see it a couple seasons. All good points though, not lost on me. I feel like I am always a seller, but I have seriously never tanked. Sure you can joke that I just suck, but I think that describes the GM in me up until a few years ago. With time and learning the league and the players and the system I have gotten better, and thus a mediocre rise in the standings from 2nd worst and at one point the absolute worst in the league to 'competing to join the middle third'. The new rule still allows me to be a seller and others to be buyers but it eliminates the race to 31st or 32nd in teh league and that will make this a much more healthy league. most keeper leagues fold after maybe 5 or 6 years due to incredible unbalance that is nearly impossible to recover from. I think this rule fixes that. I agree with you pretty much word for word.
  15. I thought this way too when i read the change, but in looking at the CBA i realized that in fact there was a no tanking rule the whole time. For me that takes not just the wind out of the sail of "your breaking my tank" but removes the sail entirely. There is no legal tank strategy that can be broken by the rule change. That is why I am fine with it this year. Well, that and combining the fact that the worst club will only lose 12% 'chance' to win the draft lotto, and not much else while 4th worst thru 15th worse actually get better odds. And of course that this is the one year of any year where the top 10 or so draftees are really open to debate. One guy I like was number 1 10 months ago and is now listed below 10th by some people and 2 by others and almost a 2nd rounder by yet more analysts. Not arguing that it isn't frustrating, it is if you are one of us guys affected for the worse, but the ill effect is so minute its not worth the bother of the argument for me at least. ((and those who have been here 8 years know i argue about everything haha)) I am suspecting that if i went to look at everyones picks coming up, the guys with multiple 1sts even if one of them is an affected top three lotto spot formerly, i bet the average either stays the same or improves somewhat. It just isn't all that detrimental is the way i see it. Still a top 15 pick and still has a shot at the lotto with 6.67% odds of being 1st 2nd or third, more or less. The benefit of the change is huge by comparison and i would argue to make this change 100% in any year, but doing it this year vs next year is next to irrelevant for 99% of the situations. I do understand that it sucks for the 5 or so guys affected to any degree, no good way to mitigate that, other than the concept that expecting to sink to good lotto odds has always been against our rules even if it appears teams have taken liberties up to now in that regard. THose liberties are why the rule change is needed, imo.
  16. Winnipeg Jets via telsat from a train in order to get it posted on time (what is it with train guys and timings?, haha: Oh and the roster spot has been opened up via trade, thus no send down or waiver, et cetera. cheers all.
  17. I am somewhat banking on it, hahaha. i have said too much.
  18. I am an impacted club, what with my little hovel down here being built slowly out of the swamp with sticks and wattle over many years. I am another club that is impacted but likes the rule. My 'analyst' hat from yesteryear is on now, not my GM of the Rangers hat from today. In real life, tanking is mitigated by the clubs need to keep bums in the seats or lose out on 75% of revenue, but in GML revenue doesn't exist so we need incentives to keep competitive (which i guess is actually mentioned a few times and places in the CBA as it was written to start each season already) Our game is solely predicated on the wish to be in the post season. If you miss by 1 point right now you are punished for trying because the guy who finished dead last has a better shot at the best pick(s) which we all know are the McDavid's the Sedins and the Matthews'. It is a great fix to give every non playoff team the same odds which dis-incentivizes losing all your talent at the end of a bad year, which is arguably making your job that much harder for next year. I also think that it is a great move to do our equal odds lotto first to then seed our ties to the actual NHL draft lotto which is very exciting year over year for fantasy keeper leagues to partake in. I too thought that perhaps this was best announced for a future year, and went and re-read our CBA and there was plenty of mention that generally tanking is not a permitted function of a GM. In the spirit of that already existing rule, I don't see a way to now complain that not letting me finish tanking somehow abridges my rights. (I am uniquely qualified to say that having the better odds doesn't always work anyway: never won the lotto and have always been pushed out of 3rd or 4th overall by those who DO win the lotto) Shrug. I am okay with this being implemented right away, because it fixes a real problem that exists not here now because of a few people: but a problem that would exist in any keeper league as successful as to survive a decade and still be going strong. I just at the end of the day don't see this as against anyone, but for the entire league. Incentive to make the playoffs is the only incentive the fantasy keeper league should have. I may not have had this opinion when i began as a keeper GM, but I have always been a keen fan of fairness. I think this is much more fair to the vast majority of players and hate to say it, much more fair to brand new Gm's of the future. It is extremely tough to come into this league and do well. No matter when or what year the rule is implemented 5 Gm's will be the 5 who are at the bottom and the most impacted, it is just that this year, I happen to be one of them. WHy I don't really care though: we are only talking about the seeding odds from 1st to 15th or whatever. if the old odds were 18% and the new odds are 6.66% for the worst team in the league: then the entire change is only for a few people, the loss of 12% odds of winning the lottery, but for 10 people, your odds just went up. No biggie. now lets get to the hits and blocks, haha. Edit: because you know I can't shut up... Just occurred to me while I was scanning for typos all the teams in the lotto are still getting the picks 1 thru 15, right? It is a very small deal indeed to make this equity and parity minded change and as was pointed out it doesn't affect scoring so really doesn't matter when it is brought in. 2nd edit: better to bring it in on a year where there is no clearcut top tier number one concensus draft pick like Matthews, McDavid or Crosby, haha, that would be a worse time i bet, lol. 3rd and last edit: looking over the top 32 prospects lists on several sights just now; I think right now this is the very best possible year to include this rule change. Small silver lining to covid interruption is that so much hockey has been interupted, jumbled and delayed that this coming NHL entry draft has the top talent listed all over the map. It is a 'scramble' as it is even with our old rules in this one coming draft relative to all the others. So much interuption makes the slight interruption of the lotto rule change much easier to digest. Much more so than any other year, IMO> K no more edits, moving my thoughts onto my revamped team sheet, it is the small things in life, haha.
  19. But is it really or is he one of those leapers that claw back a day to usurp MY birthday for their own? O.o bumm bummmmm bummmmmmmmm. I was happy to be just a litle over 100 points out of the playoffs...that means I can make up the difference fast!
  20. It is the rebuild plan that such storied franchises as Pittsburgh and Edmonton and Toronto used to trick their fans into believing the front office were super geniuses. (edit: the NHL teams...to be clear, lol)
  21. I remember Orland Kurtenbach coming to the Lake Cowichan Lakers rink, which my sister now manages for the Cowichan Regional District, and coaching summer camps my brother and his friends were lucky enough to attend. FIve of those kids from my small town in the 70s got drafted!!!!! GOes to show you what kind of an impact it has when the players take an interest in the roots of the sport. BIG big things can happen. If the NHL never expanded into Arizona for instance, would we enjoy watching Connor McDavid rip it up on his way to setting records? Probably not. I don't think it is all doom and gloom, contrary to some comments on a recent thread of mine. I think we will be an awesome team next year, but I suspect the window is closing on the post season this year. Imagine a big pick at the draft AND PODZ coming over in April!! swoon.
  22. Waivers: the New York Rangers waive Austin Czarnik with the intention to assign him to the Lake Cowichan Lakers to make space for an incoming trade.
  23. Waivers: the New York Rangers waive Braydon Coburn with the intention to assign him to the Lake Cowichan Lakers Recall: the New York Rangers recall Urho Vaakanainen from the Lake Cowichan Lakers.
  24. Assignment: The Vancouver Canucks assign Logan Brown to the minor league affiliate Recall: The Vancouver Canucks recall Anthony Angello from the minor league affiliate.
  25. Assignment: The New York Rangers assign Austin Wagner to the Minor league's Lake Cowichan Lakers to create space for a trade agreement reached this morning. Austin is waiver free for another 7 or so games.
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