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  1. actually if you look at Canuck history since say 88, the Linden/Pat Quinn draft, we have done well with 5th-6th7th Ward, Bure, Odjick, Kesa, Accoin, Walker,Sopel, Cooke, Bieksa, Brown, Corrado, Hutton/// Benning era Forsling, Gaudette Several of those years the 5th ish was the best pick Often we have done OK with our firsts,but not great, and 2-3-4 have been poor, If we could get a Petey/ Hughes or even a Virtanen/McCann on a bad day, then follow with a Demko-Tryamkin (who actually plays for us) and then one of those guys at 5, and do it for 3 -4 years, we'd be somewhere then again, I listedd 12 /25 years, and Benning has gaudette to show for his 6 drafts, He is going to need some guys tostep up, if he is to catch the team average
  2. I gave you a beer... we will give Chris lots of beer before talking contract, that'll work , right?
  3. why would Ottawa want Sutter at $4 mil? If I am Ottawa I might take Sutter at 50% retained and I give you a 6th and 2 packs of O Pee Chee
  4. where did you come from? 16 posts of know-it-allogy Six years in and we are flirting with a playoff spot Our highest paid player is an anchor we are capstrapped and have too mabny players, Oh wait, that is playoff depth, I keep forgetting If my vision is skewed, its not from 2 great draft picks this century, it from watching this team come close in 94, then implode by 97, come close in 04 and implode again, come close in 2011 and implode by 13 the vision I see skewed is from fans that see decent drafting (with a couple of home runs) for the first time in 15 years and think we are over the top
  5. I think the Canucks are more like the Sabres and Oilers than fans want to admit. Buffalo was good under Darcy Regier but stumbled during rookie manager Tim Murray's reign. The Oilers have stumbled during the Kevin Lowe + friends era, but yes Cherelli did not wash the stink off. Vancouver had some success under rookie Gillis, followed by failure and cap troubles that started with GIllis and Gilman, then rookies Trevor and Jim had trouble righting the ship. Things are starting to look up now, but it has not been smooth sailing so far. The fact Judd Bracket is even an issue shows the Canucks having trouble that a more experienced management team may have avoided. The hearty fans see nothing but blue sky, while the synical among us see the possiblity of disaster lurking. Hopefully Brackett goes away and all is right in Canuckland, but what if this happens again next year with someone else? Then a pattern emerges that does not look good on this team.
  6. I don't think you quite understand "elite" our top 2 scorers are 17 and 23rd in the league potential yes, elite, not yet our rookie D-man is 4th in scoring, but that -10 puts him in league with a bunch of scoring D on teams missing the playoffs Our Goalie (call it a goalie stat or a D stat) is 14th in sv %, 27th in GAA and tied for 18th in shut outs. I'd like mine with a small dollup of cream, hold the sugar
  7. the funny thing about Edmonton is how people talk about it as though it is one continuous regime. Ken Holland took over 13 months ago He has been responsible for 1 draft so far. Like Benning, I think Ken Holland deserves his own run, not lumped with all the previous regimes. If Edmonton starts getting 2-3 good picks beginning last year or even this year, things will change fast.
  8. this thread has taken a turn, to the 'value of playoff experience' maybe we should make a new thread, but the Judd topic is pretty much played out Its all wait and see as far as Judd goes now I am sure there will be someone come on and say, "Look at all the great picks we got without Judd" the day after draft day and others to respond, "They were all Judd picks, it was his last gift to the Canucks"
  9. I think there is a strong feeling the the Gretzky/ Islander story in PROOF of how experience will ALWAYS work. There is a group that cling to that example and expect it to work like that every time. When the Oiler lost to NYI they were all very young, the top 5 scorers were 22 or 21 the next 5 were 23-24 with Pat hughes being 27, the goalies were 19 and 22 If you look at the drafting of the Oilers 1979- 3 players 4100 NHL games, 1980- 4 player 3800 games, 1981- 2 players 1600 games, that is 9 players not counting Gretzky drafted in 3 years, we can only dream of drafting that good. BUt there were people on this forum that thought the 2011 trip to the finals would have the same effect on the Canucks. by comparison the 2011 Canucks had 9 players 29 or older, that team is not going to gain the same experience as the Gretzky Oilers from the playoffs. Now the current Canuck roster is kind of a hybrid of the two, 9 players 29 + , and 9 players 24 and under, and 8 players 25-28 years old. But that is 26 players, so who will be gaining experience and who will be sitting in the press box?
  10. fair enough you have clearly watched him much more than me. I do not pay attention to prospects. I still think the numbers are against him he is a left shot RW, which in Travis Greens mind means he is a left winger It might be disapointing to all of us to see him on left wing, no? there he has Rooster, Ferland and Ericksson to beat out for minutes If he does play RW he has Virtanen, Motte and MacEwen to contend with. How good do you think he is right now? how much better than those 6 is he? Wasn't Jake the most NHL ready guy in his class after the top 3?
  11. I fink you are incorrect on this one. The Goalie freezing the puck rule has changed many times, but I do not fink the goalie has ever been aloud to freeze the puck outside his own blueline. Currently any play can give the puck aaway during a delayed penalty and the face off is in the offensive zone. NO player is currently allowed to freeze the puck except the goalie, in his crease. On a slightly different note I do not understand why a player can pass the puck to his own goalie and then the goalie can freeze the puck. Like after an icing, can't change, but can give the goalie the puck, let him freeze it and get the change. that is clearly a delay of game
  12. that is a beauty hit, should not be a penalty in my book Puck and 2 players = no problem but if that is Mike Smith and Alex Edler, Edler comes away with a 3 game suspension
  13. See my other response about the Smiths. I don't mind the Trapezoid rule, but it is a rule made neccesary by another dumb, oops stupid rule. the reason the trapezoid is neccesary is because the NHL caved to Andy Moog, and his lobbying for more goalie protection. I never liked that guy, i felt a little sorry for him playing behind Grant Fuhr all those years, but he was ultimately bad for hockey. It is no coincidense that one of the perveyors of the 'bomber pass' was Marty Turco then of the Dallas Stars, a teammate of Moog. Giving goalies too much protection to roam at will with complete impunity made for boring hockey and ultimately sullied the integrity of the game. However, rather than reduce goalie safety to the area they originally had domain over, the crease, the NHL, in all its wisdom, created the trapezoid rule to limit the boring 'bomber pass'.
  14. Doood, get your Canuck trivia straight!!! that is the Gary Suitcase Smith rule to be fair, he was already Suitcase and the rule was already in effect when he came to Vancouver and led them to their first playoff appearence. When I started watching hockey, HNC had a intro clip of Gary, then in a Seals uni dropping the puck and heading North. The NHL said it made a mockery of the integrity of the game. And yet they never had a problem with the other Smith, Mike running picks and flopping behind the net, once causing Alex Edler a 3 game suspension for brushing Mike on one of his picks. Ya, the integrity of the game. The only time I remember that rule being called, was on Alex Auld, then a Canuck, who crossed the red line during a delayed penalty in the second period and touched the puck just as he reached the bench. Penalty nullified. I have never understood the NHL's love for the 'bomber pass'. Goalies like Mike Smth, Turco, Brodeur sending pucks to the other teams blue line while being fully protected from contact is just boring to me. At least when the other other Smith, Billy, and Hextall used to play the puck they did it at their own peril. Those guys were the enforcers of their own crease.
  15. oh silly me, maybe you could enlihten me on a few other 8 point , 18 year olds that have cracked an NHL roster and who'se spot is he taking?
  16. Not only is Jim a Draft Guru, he is also a Magician As is, " not to worry about the cap issues, Jim will work his Magic on draft day and he will trade Loui, Sutter, Baer for picks and all of our new guys will have roster spots and money for Petey, Quinn and a new top 2 defenseman"
  17. how is a guy that score 8 points in 30 KHL games NHL ready? You know that if you just watch the hi-lites, he scores a point every shift
  18. Hey Homer Biased Homer, (you said to) you are correct, however that could be said about every team at this point with 8 series coming up, I am willing bet to 2 go three, 4 go four and 2 make it to five any team could win 3 or any team could lose 3 the thing about the Canucks having a big roster is that it is good for a long run with injuries, but they need to ice the best team for a short series or it could be all over before they get to use all that depth. We might have a 2015 Ferland in Zack MacEwen but if he gets burried behind 2020 Ferland he might never get a chance to play. This will be a big test for Green the great thing about the Judd Bracket thread, is it has taken the heat off Green. I hope he has been learning motivational speeches while he has been away Look at that expanded roster, so many guys that were called up but never got a sniff If Boucher, Sven , Mac or even Goldie play their way onto the team , they should play, The same for Brezzy or Sautner, if they outplay Benn and Fanta, they should be on the opening roster, and play more than 3 minutes Two inexperienced coaches going at it in a short series, that will be one of the story lines
  19. what are those GP numbers? they are not games played in the NHL 2012 alone Subban 66 Grzelcyk 197 Griffith 79 Benning 248
  20. have you ever watched the Pittsburg/ Lou Angotti/ Mario Lemiaux story?
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