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You both know that the other one might be right? It is possible that aGENT is correct and that the rest of us showing concern are being foolish. It seems that aGENT wear their ROSE COLOURED GLASS' so tight to their head that they can't made a reasoned response without scathing condesention. Fred might also be right, maybe we asscend to the great heights of near playoffs then tumble to the basement again and Brackett is the next big thing. There is certainly enough history within the organisation to make such a scenerio a reasoned possiblity. Past regimes has erred on Larionov, Jagr, Messier (twice) Bure, Gretzky, Laforge, MacIlhargy (x3), Pat White, and Jason Herter. Sometimes trades have made mistakes not so bad, Like aGENT says using Pearson as an example, Gillis turned Pat white into Erhoff, but that does not make Pat White a good pick. Sure Benning has made some good picks, as have regimes before him. The problem is that those regimes before have started in a good direction and them imploded for no good reason. Trouble with Linden followed by trouble with Brackett suggests that this might be more than mellodrama. It might be the past coming back to haunt us again. Maybe things all work out, maybe this is the tipping point of the asyss. maybe there is a point in the middle that will work out, or not. 2 final points one is an obervation, the othert a question. 1. It seems this team needs a president, Benning does not seem to want more responsibility, he seems to want less. Maybe he has the next great operations format, but there does seem to be a void at the mid-top of management. 2. does anyone have info for or against Chris Gear? This thread could be renamed the Brackett vs Gear thread witha side order of Wiesbrod. It seems many believe Brackett is our guy and Gear is a nobody, and thern there is the other side who believe a "Capologist" is the missing link and that Brackett will not be missed because we have that angle covered. But what about Chris Gear? I have read his bio, but does anybody have anything else to say about him?
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must you be so condesending? your tough guy routine reminds me of Kev as for your 4 examples, you have pick the 2 best deals of Jim's tenur and 2 maybes that might turn into the next LE contract and a second for 10 games. they alll might work out, or half could easily go south. If our drating dries up, like it has so many times before, more $6mil no. 5 dd-men aren't going to help
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So you are saying Brackett get to use Vancouver's pick
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and Quebec because Nordiques and the logo was too weird
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well will you look at that https://www.google.com/search?q=nhl+standings+1981&rlz=1C1NNVC_enCA476CA478&oq=nhl+standings+1981&aqs=chrome..69i57j0.6743j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#sie=lg;/m/078bcv;7;/m/05gwr;st;fp;1;; back in 1981 when the Coyotes, the Devils, the Hurricanes and the Quebec exsisted in the NHL I guess that was pushback after all those terrible Norris teams made the playoffs I stand corrected
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Is that how it worked? I missed a couple of years chasing girls about that time. I remember the mid 70s when they ranked the the series 1-16, 2-15 etc in the early years of 4 divisions. I recall the sNorris division often had teams in the playoffs with worse records than some Adams/ Patrick divisions teams that missed the playoffs. I don't recall the top 16 making the playoffs, but like I said, I was not paying attention for a few years
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Extending contracts would be very difficult, if not impossible. Everybody is either a lawyer or represented by one or more. Contracts are binding. They end on June 30 at midnight The NHL/NHLPA could negotiate an extension, but there is a greater possibility that there is a strike/lockout before that happens. there is very litttle in it for the players, and the NHLPA is there to ensure the players do not get taken advantage of. At this point, players are being asked to extend contracts that they likely want a raise on, forgo their summer, go back to work in camps that do not allow them to see their family of up to 8+ weeks. Players are already balking at that one. For what gain? ECLs get a raise, RFAs get a raise if they stay on the same team, UFAs mostly get a raise I am thinking if I am negotiating a new contract i'd rather negotiate based on the season that has been rather than on whatever might happen playing neutral site games in the summer. And what if your contract is up next summer and you have a bad season because you get injured in July 2020? There is a whole lot of reasons for players to not play along with any of this, and contracts and agents and NHLPA on their side to defend their rights.
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DeNiro, you have been on this board for 12 years, you are a hall of famer and yet suddenly you are talking like you have no concept of the rules of engagement. You were coming from left field on the 25.69 GAA, how did you not know that? Now you are making up rules that have never applied. When has the East-West ever had a cross-over for playoff position? Never. This is not the CFL. On what basis did you decide the NHL would use the top 16 regardless of conference?
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there are rules? is there a prize?
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hahah I followed the rules once got a tummy ache and vowed never to do it again
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I guess I am the opposite of you Its good you recognize you are looking for the shiny now toy. But for me I have witnessed far to many draft failures followed by lotto failures to get inspired by any Canuck draft pick. TBH I watched the World Juniors final when Juolevi played outstanding and so was satisfied with that pick. Shows what basing projections on a small sample size will get you. And who knows, if not for injury he might have been good/ better than Tkachuk. For me though its, get to camp and show us what you got before I get excited about any one. Jim has made some good picks, but probably not as many as I'd hoped. There are just so many that leave me shaking my head, Madden/Utonen/Manyukin were a combined 457 #s on draft day Hoglannder, 5'8"/Plasek 154# Gunnarson 8 career points/ Palmu 5'6" It seems like there is hope for the guys that are tiny but all the big guys get cut loose early The thing about 2016 is that IF those late picks made it they would have the size to play bottom 6 Arbols is signed by FLA, 23 pt in 36 games in the AHL, sounds like Utica could use him McKenzie and Stukel are AHL/ECHL guys about where you might expect to find 5-7 round picks, but not Canuck property So is the tiny shiny
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you gotta be famous for something
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I think my team does pretty good 3 big goalies, sorry John might struggle Guevermont might win a Norris trophy if no one notices that he is -75 Snepsts might struggle, but man it'd fun to watch him play again,and he made it to 1000 games he's a survivor Jovo would love the new game, same with Reinhart and Tallon the forwards are mostly pretty fast, Bertuzzi and Ververgaert would probably struggle, but lets face it they only combined for 3 good seasons. Canuck Messier would be benched game day Mogilny Pettersson Bure D. Sedin H. Sedin Linden Adams Kesler Naslund Williams Gradin Bertuzzi (Horvat) Edler Jovo Hughes Reinhart Snepsts Guevermont (McCarthy) Luongo McLean
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FRACTIONS! I LOVE FRACTIONS
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you learn something new every day... or at least once in a while. I once started a hockey pool, that required 3 goalies to play a combined 82 games, any team that's goalies did not play the required 82 were penalized with the worst GAA in the league. The year was 1990 https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=4433 those first yar stats for Ol' Red Light Racicot are almost identical to Matt Thiessen's 1 game 6 shots 3 saves 3goals against .500 save percentage the only difference is Racicot played almost twice the minutes Racicot 13 mins = a GAA of 13.85 Thiessen 7 mins = a GAA of 25.69 on the plus side, RRacicot had a winning NHL career even though his best statistical season, had 0 wins but a GAA of 3.17 and a sv% of 8.95 Maybe Thiessen can be our swing d/w/ zamboni driver / ebug
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Hey Ibatch, I appreciate a good Sunday morning rant!! Lets not let facts get in the way . fact is the 1 player per team has always been the norm, can't blame Bettman for that one. Although there were a few years when it did not happen. Look at the defense I posted, Quinn and Jovo deserved to be there. how can we tell? Well they both went with another Canuck, that has only happened about 5 times in 50 years. BUt the rest of the D-men went because the NHL was "drafting for possition" ---- lets see, the "East", Campbell" "N/A" "World" "Western' are short D-men, who can we pick from the Canucks? BABE Pratt! oh wait its his kid, oh well he goes . I have no problem with Shoot outs, because I see the need for regular season games to end at a reasonable time, especially for the road team. That is not the problem. The problem is 3 point games... and fans obsession with stats and records. The truely funny part is that when the Shoot Out was innitiated there was a call to move to 3 point games. That was shouted down because it would ruin the record books. So what do they do? Make SOME of the games worth 3 points and pretend that nothiing has changed! If this is the NHL's problem solving ability, I guess we are lucky they are not in charge or World Peace or Climate Disfunction. You are correct, the books have been corrupted. (but only just a little bit) The concept of playing .500 hockey went out the window too, and that is funny because 8 years (or however many its been) John +John still talk about "Each team pockets a point", (as if we don't know that by now) yet they still talk about .500 hockey as if it means something. I'd like to hear John say to John "well there is another game where one team get a point for losing and the other gets 2, so every team in the playoffs is a 100 point team" Do I have time to get into goalies and goalie gear? They used to have a modicum of protection in their crease, now they wander and run picks. Gary Smith caused the ban on goalies crossing center ice, appearently because it degraded the sanctity of the game. In 48 years of watching hockey, Alex Auld is the only goalie I recall taking that penalty when he touched the puck as he crossed center going to the bench on a delayed call. But Mike Smith (a disgrace to the name) runs around, falls down, causes penalties and shoots at the open net. So to be clear, Gary Smith bad, Mike Smith good, got it? good. Remember when Ron Hextall and Billy Smith used to roam? It was cool because it was dangerous, now its like a kid in a crosswalk, you have to slam on the brakes and crash into your own teammate lest you brush up against precious Mikey. And then there is equipment. goalies sliding back and forth on their pads because the pads arre deisgned to ride flush with the ice in an unnatural position. But they got rid of the spiderweb jerseys, I guess I should be thatnkful for that. How many ineffective rules has the NHL made to increase scoring? (Move blue line, remove red line , move goal line, make Gretzky's office larger{not because he needed it} change offside rule multiple times, introduce special pucks, allow kinda sorta kicked, but not quite , well yeah kicked pucks into the net, but never really create boundries that goalies cannot cross. Woah! I went overboard, they made the trapezoid, halelujia. Wanna increase scoring? make goalies stand up on at least one skate unless they are stacking the pads, cuz stackin the pads is cool. Remove the damn bubble around them when they roam Ban them from passing across their blue line, it was a little bit cool when Hextall did it, but its not cool now Allow them to shoot at the open net though, cuz that is still cool, just not pass. While I'm at it (ranting) I have asked this q a 100 times and nobody has ever answered What is the value of the "Glove hands pass in the defensive zone"? End of rant for today, I am leaving you now, because I am going to try and be useful today, maybe I will solve World Peace or Climate Disfunction or maybe aI will cut my lawn Cheers L
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I see Manyukin is tiny, and so is Utonen, while Thiessen has a .500 save % and 25.59 GAA. I know its a small sample size, but "THIS WILL GO DOWN ON YOUR PERMANENT RECORD" He is big, maybe we can turn him into a defenseman/4th line swinger . haha https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=201400
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other than maybe Rathbone, who do you see in 17-18-19 that you think can make the NHL?
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Here they are, the canucks that have played in an All Star game I am sorry but Messier made the game 2/3 seasons he was stealing our money Williams Gradin Schmautz Rota Adams Ververgaert Naslund Messier Bertuzzi D. Sedin H.Sedin Linden Mogilny Kesler Bure Tanti Horvat Boeser .... Pettersson Vrbata Pratt Tallon Snepsts Guevremont Lindgren McCarthy EdlerJovanovski Hughes Reinhart Smith Garrett McLean Luongo
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Top 50 Most Legendary Fighters to Lace Up for the Canucks
lmm replied to Kevin Biestra's topic in Canucks Talk
Kurtenbach 11 fights in 3.5 seasons Maloney Magnuson Plager Durbano Hillman, probably a combined age of 70 and that tough guy Darryl Sittler X2 -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fcdpks2UxiQ
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I agree with most everything you say, but I think the "window" thing is over blown. I keep going back to Boston, because their window seems to always be open. It is always open because they always have a top 5 D-man since 1966 its gone Orr- Park- Bourque... gap that they tried to fill with an old Coffey, old Leetch, old Gonchar and not so old McLaren... Chara. If Peiterangelo moves, I'd bet on him going to Boston. If you are Peiterangelo, what is not to like in Boston, they never get old and they are never young, the curtain just blows out that ever open window. With Chara approaching his 100th birthday, its the perfect time for Peiterangalo to step in, then they replace Rask and the story continues. That is why I don't get caught up in "window" talk or "moving goal posts or "age gap" , because I think they are excuses for acceptable or expected failure. I would like to see this team get past the feast or famine cycle of opening and closing windows and move to a sustainable high quality team, where the parts are fluid. Where we trade guys because the trade is there. That kind of patience. Not rush to sign guys for too much. Not having to add picks because you waited too long. Sustained quality beats feast or famine. and the window never closes... that is my pipe dream.
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Greatest "Cup of Coffee with the Canucks" Player, Legends Edition
lmm replied to Kevin Biestra's topic in Canucks Talk
oh ya I remember Mel from the Victoria Cougars -
Greatest "Cup of Coffee with the Canucks" Player, Legends Edition
lmm replied to Kevin Biestra's topic in Canucks Talk
How about King Kong Korab , Gary Doak, Ron Stewart (1353 games, 42 in Van and 22 in NYI) Colin Campbell (played for the Canucks and Blazers, and seemingly hates Vancouver) Doug Wickenhieser ( the only first over all draft pick.. but not by us) the other Gagner Smolinski -
Fair enough, I just think the character issue is overblown. Maybe Jim just decided McCann was going to top out as a 20 goal scorer and he felt dealing him early was going to get the best value, while some still thought he was a second liner. Gudbranson got traded twice and so did Pearson, it happens If anything Guber is short on skill and decision making under pressure What is your take on Pearson?