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  1. For sure, this new found heartfelt concern for the lives of elderly is suspect. Elderly care workers in Japan make peanuts as well.
  2. one point made is that Sweden has large elderly homes and they were poorly managed in the beginning. One reason for this is that like in many countries they are staffed by immigrants and one suggestion is that their Swedish was not good enough to understand the guidelines or the disease itself. So I am saying this because Sweden does have a lot of care home deaths as part of the overall total. And unlike many countries (e.g. France) they actually count care homes deaths in the total. That is one reason given. There is a lot of complexity involved for each country. For example in North Italy their flu season was pretty light and now experts there think that this provided a larger than usual group to succumb to the corona. This virus in a lot of ways reminds me of forest fires.
  3. Okay now take the same data (population and covid deaths) for Japan and compare it Canada like you did for Sweden. Japan's policy is very close to Sweden's. Comparing Japan and Canada without properly studying the context and even looking at the numbers properly and using your logic you could question Canada's approach as being reckless. Japan has 125 million people and 360 confirmed covid deaths. Our Swedish players would be unimpressed with your math.
  4. You cannot in anything be fully evidenced-base and you don't want to be. But taking risks is about risk management. The US now has 22,000,000 out of work.
  5. Their elderly homes are large and were not well managed at the start and account for a large % of their death totals. Many countries like France have not counted fatalities from care homes. Mid-may greater Stockholm is expected to be at herd levels. Without a vaccine the population reaching a herd immunity bar is a must.
  6. ‘think as cement’ - when trying to land an insult you need to word check first before sending.
  7. Yes, but the photo came out as others did during the stay at home request/order. And it was believed that more people were at these places than usual because of the order.
  8. Back in March they showed a photo of a very large crowd. The comment was probably made in that 'context'.
  9. i wish i could understand your point.
  10. the data on the effectiveness of social distancing is scant. At the moment you see countries that have contained the virus for now and have put into practice very different social distancing measures and practices. To say social distancing works is an over generalization because it entails a lot of different practices and none have been seriously studied or assessed. For example, schools have been shutdown in some places but not others, and this hasn't impacted infection rates or deaths. One study suggests that closing school may have reduced infection by 2%.
  11. the virus origins in the US has multiple points. It arrived on planes.
  12. Exactly Over half of the deaths in the US come from a NY to Jersey slice. I say slice because it isn't all the hospitals. It is well documented now that hospitals that got rocked had large elderly populations, and or were in poorer areas (e.g. Queens). These hospitals are always maxed out at flu season and what saves them from the chaos they had now is a fu vaccine. Everyone in those hospitals including the healthcare workers got infected - again no vaccine. And so those hospital turned into huge virus spreaders before anyone could figure it out. Context is critical to understanding what happened in Spain, Italy and NY. 14,000 health care workers in Northern Italy were infected and of course in the early stages they were infecting as well.
  13. The rough data for everywhere is showing that 97% of infections take place indoors: hospitals, retirement homes, and other social welfare facilities (homeless shelters, prisons). Confined space, poor air circulation and close contact. In France retirements home corona deaths are not even counted in their fatality numbers. More testing means more positives, and even more negatives. The infection rate for BC is flat and stable for the foreseeable future. Viruses like this do not turn on a dime. A so called spike is from what you saw today (deliberate testing suspected clusters) or other bureaucratic things like backlogs, retesting and so forth - well documented. Retest are often counted twice. The virus is like a train more than it is a ferrari in terms of its movement.
  14. CBC Provincial health officer Dr. Bonnie Henry says there are 95 new cases of COVID-19 in British Columbia, a spike that brought the total number of cases to 1,948 on Saturday. Henry said part of the reason for the dramatic jump in cases is because of additional testing related to community outbreaks at a federal prison and a poultry processing plant. Forty of the new cases are linked to the federally-run Mission Institution, where 106 inmates and 12 staff members have contracted the virus. An inmate at the federal prison died from COVID-19 complications earlier this month. Henry said two inmates are currently in hospital.
  15. What is 20% of 7.8 billion - it is slightly more than the whole population of China.
  16. there is a group of regular posters who unfortunately bought into the wild modelling weeks ago and are having a hard time letting it go. This is normal though, it well researched that people when confronted with new facts that challenge their beliefs tend to double down on their original view rather than make that leap. The arguments from them now are nothing more than moralizing.
  17. what you are presenting is not new. It has been known for weeks and weeks. a study out of the US tried to explain it in terms of driving your car. If you are under 65 the death risk is the same as driving your car to work. There is one group of posters who oppose any kind of data like this because it is inconsistent with what they originally believed and preached on this site and demanded obedience to. Their only option now is moralizing and saying that presenting such data is devaluing the lives of seniors. In other words they prefers lies to facts cause the latter hurts.
  18. Shouldn't you be on patrol at the supermarkets? A few weeks ago you said 20% of the world's population could die from this. Must be a shock.
  19. there is a peanut gallery on this site that has doubled down now that their panic messages and beliefs are not playing out in fact. Their favorite tool is of course 'moralizing' - in their language 'we good, you evil'. 'How dare you say that when people are dying' is one of their favorite go to responses Listening to them you would think they finally figured out that people die. Or that corona deaths are the only ones we need to be sensitive to.
  20. 12.000, people not families. They don't measure infection by family. Obviously, more people have been infected than are reported - that is common knowledge. Studies in the US show 50 to 85 times the actual number of infections. Wider testing means more positive tests, but even greater negative tests - that is fact. That is also why they have lowered the death fatality rate. Same here in Japan. Do you even know the infection rate here? No. Someone in another post mentions about getting paid as a teacher and you say well how can you think about that when people are dying. And unable to really offer any proper rebuttal to me your argument now is I don't care about seniors. You have been measured.
  21. So my post about closing schools applies to data from the US, but probably relevant to Japan. Schools in Tokyo outside of daycare have been closed since late Feb. So your post doesn't address my previous post at all or contribute in any way. Let's be honest, it is the only thing you could come up with as a reply. The usual peanut gallery likes it though. When you get news on Canada do you get it from the BBC as well? Interesting. 'Countrywide there are now 12,000 cases'. The way that is written it implies at this moment - no that is the total number since January 31st. So a completely meaningless stat. You didn't know that did you. 12,000 plus total cases over 3 months out of 125,000,000 is that substantial? Some hospitals in Tokyo and Osaka are feeling the pinch while others are not. The reporter in the article visited 'one' as he notes.
  22. Cannot believe Gino is not in there already - Hands down the best fighter this team has ever had. His take down of the Blues is epic old school hockey. If got his right going it was game over. The guys was an elite warrior!
  23. there is a clear picture emerging that even in the hard hit areas that only some of hospitals were hit hard - these were ones that typically have feeder populations that are elderly and or economically disadvantaged. These hospitals work at near capacity all the time regardless Every flu season many are at the edge of collapse but what saves them is the yearly vaccine. In this case there is none so at those hospitals everyone including the healthcare workers were getting it an spreading it. So basically anyone in those hospitals or going to them was catching it and spreading it. The way hospitals are handling things now is very different from how they were 4 weeks ago. Over half of the deaths in the US are in a certain region of NY and outlying areas and within in that it is certain areas and hospitals. I do hope regular surgery comes back soon for those people that need it. There is a lot of information showing that sick people with other life threatening ailments are not going to the hospital.
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