you are guilty in the latter parts of your post of what you accuse a previous poster of in the first paragraph of your post - cliches - did you not notice this? You seem to think you know what is going to happen with these players which of course you do not know - nobody does. Yes, you are correct in stating that the odds are against Jake, but that applies to all first round picks. Statistically, the chances of any first rounder making a career as a top six are not very good. In other words you are stating a fact that applies not just to Jake but all first rounders including OJ. In simpler language there are statistically more first round busts than top six or four successes. If you have such insight at picking the sure things than you really should be in the business rather than posting on here.