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[Report] Ben Hutton to become UFA
wai_lai416 replied to BertaNuck's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
I agree but at the same time I would think it also depends where the scouts were focused at that time. It's quite completely possible the Canucks scout never even looked at those players. Theres hundreds and hundreds of kids all over the world cant look at them all. -
I dont know how much truth was to the Seabrook and 3rd for our 10th rumor.. but I dunno.. I prolly would have taken that in.. pick byram then we dont really have to force to attempt to sign a 7-8 mil Myers or Gardiner.. get rid of Ericsson and Sutter even with cap retained.. easily could have fit Seabrook contract in. Even if byram cant play this year our defense would actually look pretty good for the foreseeable future. Hughes Byram Juolevi Stetcher Tanev Edler Maybe tryamkin in the future Maybe woo in the future And a Seabrook as a bottom/7th And technically can still sign a myer or whomever since we are looking to move tanev and possibly not re-sign Hutton.
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[Report] Ben Hutton to become UFA
wai_lai416 replied to BertaNuck's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
Namestnikov and vasilevsky are both 1st rounder that were drafted before the Canucks had a pick. All their picks in the latter round are well before the Canucks. Not saying the Canucks will draft those player at those spot but who knows what they would draft in those rounds if they were higher up. Tampa bay actually had 9 players that were not in the top 6 but like I said every player every round is significantly higher than where the Canucks drafted.. also I still dont think it's fair you are using rebuilding team vs president trophy winning team drafting as comparison. I'd rather compare rebuild vs rebuild and based on your analysis Benning drafting sucks. Tampa bay bay had 8 1st rounder in the period and 6 of them turned into good angler. We have 6 in 5 years. 2 of them is no where near where we hope they would be, and one of them was traded for a negative asset in gudbranson. Not to mention other than gaudette demko and I guess tryamkin. We dont have a player from the 2nd round and up that looks remotely ready to even make stride towards the nhl let alone the ahl despite boasting how great of a prospect pool we have. Literally not 1 player that went to the ahl from their junior team made progress in recent memory except demko. Maybe they'll get better or maybe they won't.. in 5-6 years time we might be taking about how we never had any player of significance drafted in the 2nd rounds and up during this rebuild. -
[Report] Ben Hutton to become UFA
wai_lai416 replied to BertaNuck's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
I give u maybe 5 or 6 of the 10 you are talking about including kucherov.. most of them is at around 100 games played since drafted.. hardly considered an nhl regular. And you are comparing 08-13 on Tampa bay who's competing for lottery pick year after year to a team competing for the cup. With all the prospect available I'm sure they can afford to pick some player off the board. I think it's more fair if you compare teams drafting period when they were at the top of their league. Vs comparing drafting of team that's tanking. Coz if that's the case Benning drafting vs Tampa bay drafting from 08-13 vs 15-19 Tampa bay is way better -
[Report] Ben Hutton to become UFA
wai_lai416 replied to BertaNuck's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
tampa bay other than 1 great year at the draft in 2011 where they got kucherov in the 2nd and palat.. in the same span as gillis era.. they were pretty bad.. if you take away the #1 overall in stamko and #2 overall in hedman.. the most notable player they have is kucherov and palat... everything else is either a bust or career ahler.. chicago during the exact same span have Saad shaw outside of the 1st round.. like i said i'm not defending gillis picks coz he striaght up sucks.. but top teams tend to have terrible drafts not just gillis -
[Report] Ben Hutton to become UFA
wai_lai416 replied to BertaNuck's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
Oh no doubt Gillis draft is terrible but he is picking 29-30 every year and 55+ got his next pick literally every year hes been here. At that point those are all lottery picks. Benning first draft his first 2 picks are higher than any pick Gillis ever had and McCann he got rid of so fast because he doesnt view him as a fit here. I mean if you are judging their drafting based on how many of them plays in the nhl or whatever then I can say Ben Hutton played more games than all the non 1st round pick by Benning combined. I just want to say Gillis sucks at drafting but Benning ain't much better until those player actually makes an impact and so far none of the non 1st have. Gillis had 1 top 10 pick and he nailed it with horvat. Same cant be said about Benning and his 4 didnt include this year coz it's way too early but virtanen and juolevi not that they cant be great but considering what's been drafted after them I would say it's a fail -
[Report] Ben Hutton to become UFA
wai_lai416 replied to BertaNuck's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
When you are drafting at the very bottom of each round every year consistently why are you surprised? We only have like 1 or 2 player outside of the 1st round playing on the team. Demko and gaudette and they are still unknown atm -
did we even ever go into a rebuild? i think we are the only team in the last 7-8 years that's suppose to be rebuilding to have less 1st round picks or players that we drafted than we suppose to have.. 2013 horvat/shinkaruk 2014 virtanen/mccann 2015 boeser 2016 juolevi 2017 pettersson 2018 hughes 2019 podkolzin 2020/2021 traded we have 7 1st rounder in 8 years doesnt' feel like a rebuild and really we only hit on 3 of them that were drafted in the top 10 not including this year
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also it's possible we miss the playoff not coz the team is bad.. it's just other teams are better atm.. the western conference right now is starting to look really strong... the weakest team to get in was colorado.. with makar graduating and byram in a year or 2.. they are scary... calgary sj vegas ain't going anywhere yet. edmonton is bound to get better with mcdavid.. jets preds might regress a little.. but overall they are still a lot stronger than we are atm.. only team that might fall is dallas and st louis depends what they do in the summer
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considering the Lightning are in no position of power to negotiate as Miller will have his modified NTC kick in july 1st further reducing tampa bay's ability to trade him.. they were pretty desperate to move him before july 1st.. there was no rush to trade for him and i feel we could have gotten him without the 1st as it gets closer to july 1st.. so in that sense i don't feel this is a trade of value.. it's a good trade in terms of getting a good player.. but it's a horrible trade considering what we gave up to a team that have no leverage due to their cap situation and miller's NTC about to kick in.
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What top 6 forward is available in the free agent that's not going to handcuff the team cap wise going forward with the looming boeser contract this year and pettersson and Hughes in 2 years unless they get rid of bunch of useless contract at this moment like Sutter Ericsson schaller I dont see us being a player in the free agent market without hurting the team cap wise long term. Regardless of what we end up adding in free agent which of the 8 playoff team last year you can say we will be better than after adding a player or 2. Only team I see is maybe Dallas everyone else I dont see much of a drop off. Colorado is only going to get better if grubauer plays well
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[Rumour] Canucks aggressively pursuing Tyson Barrie
wai_lai416 replied to 3rdGenCanuck's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
meh colorado doesnt have any dead contract and they have 13 players signed with 36mil in cap space. let's just say rantenen and barrie takes up 17mil that's still not too bad 21-22 will prolly be more of a problem when landeskog contract is also up.. if it comes down to keeping barrie or trading erik johnson i think erik johnson will be moved to make space -
[GDT] 2019 NHL Entry Draft
wai_lai416 replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in General Hockey Discussion
amazed a 51g chl player is still on the board -
[Discussion] Did Canucks lose out on their guy?
wai_lai416 replied to Doogie's topic in Canucks Talk
lol more like the canucks were wtf at that pick.. that guy is not even in the top 20 in most ranking -
[Speculation] PK Subban's name is out there
wai_lai416 replied to Kanukfanatic's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
Of coz because he was bad. Its like Loui Eriksson hes bad hence his deployment sucks -
[Speculation] PK Subban's name is out there
wai_lai416 replied to Kanukfanatic's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
Lol Toronto needs defense and they will lose Gardiner for nothing and they are desperately wanting to get rid of zaitsev. But hes good and on a reasonable contract lol what? That's already alarm bell by itself. They are losing a top 4 to free agent and then trying to trade away a so call top 4 by your standard. So Toronto is trying to go into next year with a defense that's even worse than their current one? If zaitsev is a top 4 on a reasonable contract he would not be available from Toronto. -
[Speculation] PK Subban's name is out there
wai_lai416 replied to Kanukfanatic's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
So we help Toronto out by giving them a defenseman they need and for pennies retaining 50%... on top of that take on a terrible contract in zaitsev just for kapenen? Have you even watched any of zaitsev game last year? His hockey IQ is so bad and we are only stuck with it for 6 more years great deal -
[Report] Eriksson “NOT” likely to be moved on
wai_lai416 replied to Provost's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
Ok sure but why would he walk away from 9mil? He has 9million reason to play in the AHL. Pretty sure it's not as simple as that. Or Luongo can easily not retire just fail to report and have his contract terminated and no cap recapture for any team. Then Vancouver can sign him to a 1yr 3mil or whatever contract if they wish to cover the amount Luongo forfeited if his contract gets terminated -
[Report] Eriksson “NOT” likely to be moved on
wai_lai416 replied to Provost's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
Lol if hes still on the Canucks by September hes going to report lol. Who the hell will walk away from 9mil doing nothing. If he doesnt report to the AHL he doesnt get paid. You cant terminate his contract based on that. Otherwise all teams will be doing that instead of buy out. His salary still count against the cap whether he reports or not so what's the point? -
Report [ Luongo Decision expected]
wai_lai416 replied to Squamfan's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
No you still have to pay the recapture regardless what team Luongo goes to if he ends up retiring. I'd think if Luongo was to go on LTIR whoever pays the salary I'm guessing insurance will do some investigation to make sure its legitimate not like oh I'll just go on LTIR to end my career. Whether Luongo retires or not I'd think will prolly have to wait till after July 1st and see where bovoroski goes -
[Report] Eriksson “NOT” likely to be moved on
wai_lai416 replied to Provost's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
Why the hell are people even considering lucic for Eriksson? An underperforming guy for another underperforming guy with a longer contract. Like Edmonton won't add much as it's not even a cap dump. And all it does is put Vancouver in a bad place years down when they actually need the cap space. At this point I'd keep Eriksson over Lucic even if they toss in a draft pick or 2.. Eriksson still out performs lucic and have 1 year less on his contract. Lucic looks like he doesnt even belong in the NHL anymore -
[Rumour] Canucks aggressively pursuing Tyson Barrie
wai_lai416 replied to 3rdGenCanuck's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
Wouldn't be surprise we dont do anything at the draft or summer in terms of trade. Not the first time we have been linked to everything and nothing gets done. I'd love any of the above mentioned player but I'd believe it when I see it -
Report [ Luongo Decision expected]
wai_lai416 replied to Squamfan's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
I'm sure theres more to oh I have a lingering issue and want to go on LTIR.. otherwise everyone would be going on LTIR instead of retiring or getting bought out.