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  1. what are you talking about? if we have a top 2 defenseman beside edler other team will use their top pairing to shutdown the defenseman?? other teams top defense pairing plays 25+ mins a night. how often do you see another team switch up their defensive assignment when it's obviously working? sure having Edler is great if he's willing to sign a 2 year contract which he won't or if he's willing to sign a longer contract but without NTC which he won't either. so you want to expose a Juolevi hughes boeser pettersson dipetro demko horvat or whoever else we draft this year? or our so call good prospects woo madden etc etc etc because you have to burn a spot on the protect list on a player that's on a decline and selfish? say what you want Edler is a selfish guy. by refusing to even considered a rental for couple months and then re-signing here to help the team and refusing to sign a contract unless he gets his NTC we don't need him. He hasn't earned anything in recent years and honestly haven't earned any status to be making those kinds of demands. he's a good defenseman for this franchise and recently is very injury prone and nothing more. sure he's the franchise leader in points for defenceman.. but when you played so many games here obviously you'll be the leader.. like i don't even put him in the top 5 canucks defenceman of all time.. his points per game as a defenceman on the canucks is not even in the top 10 and his +/- is worse than KEVIN BIESKA and BRENT SOPEL lol
  2. Sure defense plays a big role but when ur top 3 scorer is at around 25-30goals and then it falls off a cliff that plays a bigger role. Shutdown the entire pettersson line and then you just need to focus on horvat as his linemate cant produce. Edler tbh is not a top 2 regardless of how high we think of him. Hes a top 4 at this point of his career. He misses too much game the last couple season to be viewed as a must have on the blue line. I hope jb at the very least inquired about trouba on a sign and trade as his reason for not wanting to be in Winnipeg is mostly over $$ anyways. Or perhaps look at trading for ristolainen if it doesnt require any of our core piece to replace edler.
  3. i think you are undervaluing stecher and hutton way too much if you are calling them a bottom pairing defenseman... they are 2nd pairing at best and 2nd pairing at worse.. our defense looked crap last year without edler coz most of the time it was also without tanev too at the same time and hughes haven't made the step up to the NHL. i think we are more than capable of letting Edler walk and slowly work Hughes into more minutes.. like i said we ain't competing for the cup we don't need a 25+ mins defenseman they can easily play 16-20 mins a night and rotate on a pairing with Tanev. if Juolevi is not ready? then sign another bottom 4 defenseman to fill the role then.. Juolevi is gonna be worked into the bottom 4 anyways once he's in the NHL. you guys need to stop thinking like OMG we need Edler to make the playoff blah blah blah.. chances of us missing the playoff is much greater than than us making the playoff. like we need to stop over reacting.. Pettersson carried the team on his back the first half of the season... were the canucks really that good? or it was all just pettersson.. i'd prolly say it's mostlyh pettersson and the goalies playing better.. but don't let it mask the fact that we are still a bottom 5 team in terms of goal scoring.. that's been the constant theme since 2011.. we can't score.. and we don't have players up and coming to fill the role nor is virtanen magically going to turn into a 25goal scorer.. take out his garbage empty net goals dude has like 10 goals.. just see what we actually have on defense instead of trying to give in to a well past it's prime defenseman demand that refused to be traded for asset and refused to sign a short term deal or a long term deal without the NTC to hamstring the team. he plays 50-60 % of the season every season just like Tanev.. so every year it's like the team is bad without edler.. but then he's always injured so the team is always bad.
  4. let him make it to the open market then?? we ain't competing for a cup this coming season.. and probably won't be till after seattle expansion kicks in.. so there's no point of signing him to a massive ntc contract.. if Juolevi makes the team like most of you are saying.. then we still have tanev hutton stecher along with juolevi hughes and re-sign schenn. he did a fine job playing the 5-6th role. then just fill the defense with depth defenseman
  5. then you should quote what you are referring to.. and yes it's still terrible drafting.. how many top 3 did they have? and they only ended with kovalychuk and heatley.
  6. I dont want edler to be back hes a waste of roster spot cap space and plays in only 50-60% of the season every year anyways. No to term no to ntc no to high cap
  7. We technically could too but all the ntc and hanging onto players forever hurt us. Tanev should have been gone couple years ago when hes worth at least a 1st. Same with edler but he never would have waived. Out of loyalty for the sedins we never even considered moving them at the deadline. But we shall see where it all goes. At this point of our rebuild 6 years in. We are still searching for top 6 and top 2 defenseman. Only thing that's a sure thing atm is boeser pettersson horvat and defense Hughes looks good but haven't played a season yet.. plenty of holes everywhere
  8. Rangers can afford it.. even trading that 1st round pick rangers have a total of 6 1st rounder in the last 3 draft including this year.. getting a solid young top 2 D along with the 6 1st rounder.. their rebuild is going way faster than most teams
  9. Can you read? I said no one wants to sign with Atlanta and you posted 2 players that was drafted there and had no choice.
  10. That's because no one wants to play in Arizona or Atlanta. You can have all the top picks if you cant sign any players to play with them of coz it will fail and in Atlanta's case they were terrible at drafting.. Patrick stepan 1st overall Lehtonen 2nd overall etc etc..
  11. tbh.. the 10th pick is a crap shoot anyways it's like a lottery pick for it to turn out to be a star player.. so why not take a flyer on a player like Arthur Kaliyev? how many 50 goals + scorer do you see at age 17 in the OHL? this guy have a crazy shot very good hockey IQ, the only knock on him is he doesn't play with speed althogh he was top 3 in a lot of skating and speed category in the future prospect combines
  12. Lol plz god no to zaitsev.. he has a terrible contract and his hockey sense is terrible as a dman.. and he has a 6 bloody year left.. I rather keep whatever we have now on defence than pay anything for him. Unless they are throwing in lots of sweetener. They are in no position to take back any salary from us and we shouldn’t even consider giving any prospect of draft pick for him either
  13. if Bo got a 6year 5.5mil per after his rookie contract.. there's no way boeser will settle for a 5mil 2-3 bridge. if he can get 7-8mil now why would he take the risk of taking a bridge deal and then end up not producing as expected and ends up with a crappier contract? he'll definitely be aiming at William Nylander at the very least
  14. if benning is drafting consistently in the top 10.. you'd expect him to be finding top line players at a much higher clip.. if he's so good at drafting.. then why did he pick virtanen and OJ.. not saying they are bad.. but no way they warrant where they are drafted... and picking hughes is not hitting a home run.. he's the consensus bpa that other team for whatever reason passed on.. if Hughes becomes a star in this league.. it's not because of benning's genius.. it's because other teams are retarded for passing on him.
  15. lol sure we got boeser at 23rd.. but at the same time there's like 13-14 others picks that year that were just as good if not better that went ahead of boeser. the elite tiers Mcdavid, Eichel, Rantanen, marner, then we have to great tier in Werenski Hanifin, Barzal, Chabot, boeser, then we have the good tier in Meier, Strome, Debrusk, Conor. there's also the top goalie prospect in samsonov that went just ahead of boeser too. don't make it sound like we have the steal of the draft.. if anything Matthew Barzal at 16 is the steal of the draft.. Center, Playmaker, can play defense.. or you can argue Rantanen at 10 potential 100 point + player. as for the best player in 2017? time will tell.. is Pettersson's massive production decline have to do with fatigue/injury? other team figuring out how to play him? can he get back to the pre all star level dominance? at this time i'll say Miro Hesikanen is the best player of the draft as he's instrumental in the stars making the playoff and he's been great for them the entire year and gotten even better in the playoff. production wise he can't compete with pettersson as a defenseman but he has the future norris candidate written everywhere. seldom team misses in the first 5-6 picks of the draft, but missing back to back hurts when you are in the top 10 where that's usually where you will get your core foundation player and not your supplementary player where u can find later on in the draft.
  16. meh players with potential.. all players have potential of being in the NHL hence why we draft them.. and what is jake's purpose on this team if he's not scoring goals? coz he sure as hell doesn't use his body to play big... Jake and OJ will always be fodders here in Vancouver unless they miraculously turn into a borderline star.. considering what was drafted after and directly after them.. since we like to do redrafts all the time.. i doubt Jake or OJ will even be in the first round in a redraft
  17. yet we cheered for the likes of burrows kesler lapierre etc etc when they were on our team
  18. unless they completely redesign the color scheme and logo.. i think i'm going to have a hard time with a canucks jersey in the current color scheme logo without the word vancouver on it.. the reddit rendition someone posted earlier looks even worse than the current jersey.. hard pass
  19. doesn't mean much.. some of those players were signed before the salary cap went up each year. example if a FA hits the market in 2015 he gets 7mil.. but if he'd hit the market in 2016 he'd get 8mil and 2017 9mil and so on.. because of the cap keep going up. it's all about timing
  20. so based on the format there's no point of a regular season then since everyone will make it.. might as well just flip a coin to see who have home ice advantage
  21. ya problem is in the juniors he's a man amounst boys.. in the NHL not so much.. in the juniors he can basically do whatever he wants coz he's so much bigger and stronger than other physically.. in the NHL he's finding most of the players are as strong and big as he is so he doesn't want to get flatten driving to the net.. rough and tough is not part of his game. he's usually the first to skate out of the scrum post whistle. he seems to pick and choose when he wants to play the tough stle
  22. but we are not talking about projected to be top line material or top pairing etc. we are talking about based on what we have seen in the entire season both heiskanen and pettersson have shown they are the real deal. Heiskanen shown he can easily handle the entirity of the regular season + playoff hence in a redraft i'd say he will go before pettersson knowing what they both projected to be. Pettersson is going to be great in this league but until he's proven he can handle an entire season without burning out. Heiskanen will be worth more at this current moment. Dallas will gladly pass if we offer pettersson for heiskanen straight up without even having to think
  23. yes i'll agree Pettersson have some game changing ability, but the playoff proves once again.. you need to be strong skilled and fast. not just skilled and fast, all the skilled and fast player are all completely shutdown and eliminated. the skilled and fast player mid 0 impact in all the rounds of the playoff so far. Gaudreau, Stamkos, kucherov, panarin, duchene, barzal, marner, they were all useless in their series lost. mostly shutdown if not completely shutdown
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