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  1. @Petey_BOI Your thread is a glimpse of how bad our fanbase is.

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    2. Tre Mac

      Tre Mac

      Oddly enough it's also a glimpse at how bad Benning handled the cap that a fan thinks he can do a better job.  

       

      Talking about Benning here is like discussing Trump in Alabama, its dog gone gunna get heated hmmm mmmm.  

    3. Qwags

      Qwags

      To be fair, you could find fans like that anywhere.

    4. AV.

      AV.

      Benning inherited Horvat, Kassian, Schroeder, Shinkaruk, Subban, Cassels, Gaunce as notable prospects.  While it drops off after Kassian, all of these players had clout around the league.  They may not have been to Benning's liking but they had value.  He chose to release them/trade them for pennies so its not really fair to say he had nothing to lean on.  By comparison, Gillis had Grabner, Schneider, and maybe Patrick White (which was a massive stretch because people were pissed we passed on David Perron).  So, yes, anything drafted in the Gillis era looked great and nobody was "complaining" but let's not act like he was only making marginally better picks.  Bob McKenzie famously said that Hodgson was Stamkos without the speed, Schroeder was ranked top 10 before falling and ended up breaking the USA Jr. scoring record as our prospect, Rodin was ranked very high, Shinkaruk similar to Schroeder.  The perception at those times was not just that he was doing very well to get those guys at where he was picking them; the perception was that he was hitting homeruns.

       

      We've liked Benning's picks (and for good reason) but we expect him to do well in the top 10.  And even then, he chose Jake over Ehlers, Nylander; Juolevi over Tkachuk, Sergachev.

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      The UFAs that Benning signed have costed us.  We just lost a starting goaltender, a good #4 D, a great #5 D, and a top 6 forward (although, we shouldn't have traded for him in the first place) for absolutely nothing because we had too much money committed to bottom six centers and wingers that we couldn't move.  We're almost certain to lose a good player in Pearson and a great one in Edler in order to have the cap-space to re-sign our core guys because these contracts will still be here next year (even in light of an expansion draft).  And yes, he escaped some contracts but that's not a good thing.  What other GM has to escape from multiple contracts he signs every season? It was Gagner in 2019, Baertschi last season, and now Baertschi/Eriksson going into next season. That's honestly pathetic and perfectly good grounds for termination.

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      Ok, I laughed here because this is the most Benning bro thing I have ever read.  A team that finished in the bottom 10 (including two bottom-3 finishes) for 4 straight seasons and you think it wasn't a massive risk to move a 1st?  Better yet, you're saying that a team that made the 2nd round two years in a row (with a far better team I might add) and traded the 25th ovr (a known value) was a bigger risk than trading an unknown pick?

       

      I'm happy that we have Miller and I'm happy that the trade has worked out thus far, but under no circumstances was it never not a risk to move that pick (protected or not), especially since we didn't have to.  And that's just it.  You and the other Benning apologists will praise Benning for "out-waiting" the market to get Schmidt for a 3rd (which was a great move) but then don't acknowledge that he could have, and probably should have, done the same thing with Tampa for Miller.   Why is that?

       

      I respect your position to want to see the good in Benning but you can't argue that his good equals the bad.  It's been far more bad with with than it has been good.

       

       

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