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Most of those players were already here to begin with though.

We didn't have depth D in our system to re-sign. The pro scouting under Benning was definitely subpar. It seemed that everything that he did sign went to crap. Poolman isn't and wasn't a bad defenseman. And if he wasn't injured, we very well might have seen him prosper (or not).

Nothing "smart" about burning 19 million dollars. I don't care how you spin that.

Some people will only push out an idea of theirs without bothering to research the consequences of that idea. Everyone else knows that buying OEL is a terrible idea, but it won't stop people from making more threads about it.

I've seen several people push this, but buyout doesn't mean freed cap space. The contract itself is buyout proof MEANING that the cost to buy it out makes it not worth it to do so. 1M is not a lot. Not only do you have to find another player to replace OEL, you aren't freed much space even after the buyout.

Yes, but you're assessing the trade based on the actual result of the player, which has ended up looking worse and worse with time. However, had Forsling busted (as do many 5th round picks), the assessment would be completely different. Clendenning had been an AHL superstar. Who was to say he'd be a bust? There was nothing to suggest at the time of the trade that Forsling would end up being Benning's worst trade. Let's be honest here.

They said they were a few pieces away from the playoffs - wrong. Very wrong. They traded a 1st, and at least a couple of 2nds all the while being at the bottom of the league. Look around and you'll see no other bottom feeding team did the same thing. Everyone else COLLECTED picks.

It was a bad trade AFTER the fact, not when it happened. At the time, he was just a 5th round pick with promising stats. A lot of players are like that and never amounted much later.

I don't understand why you insist on putting your ego into this. You're not Brock Boeser, nor are you Elias Pettersson. Everyone has a different way of grieving. It's not right or wrong. You keep comparing yourself with Boeser's situation, but really, you have no better idea of what he's going through than me. Did you injure your back? Did you injure your wrist? Stop pretending you know how someone is feeling. That's my issue with your posts here. I get it that you doubt Brock. I perfectly understand why you say this. But I also think there's a chance that Brock will do better next season. Apparently him doing better is 'magical'

Yes, and the one poster here that equates his grieving with Boeser's, minus the back and wrist injuries, is rather egotistical here. We all see that Boeser has declined, but the opinions of his decline can differ from person to person. I do believe he'll know what to do in the offseason when he finds the right person to train with.

Ok man. I am on the positive side on this one and you're on the negative. Neither of us know what the next season will be. You don't "magically" have the answers, but you sure sound like you do. All I mentioned was that I believe that he'll be better next offseason. You seem to know that he'll be the same next season.

You seem to magically think that people grieve the same way. You have no idea what he's going through (and neither do I). You have no idea if COVID affected him in any way, performance wise. You have no idea if his wrist is essentially broken for the NHL. You could be right that he could be done. But you could also be wrong too. Maybe it's nothing magical. Maybe we should just leave it at that. I certainly wasn't thinking something magical here. Sometimes the magic is really just honest hard work. I think he's still got it. I believe in him. I could be let down, of course.

Why do people keep mentioning Weisbrod? Jay Feaster was the one who said that.

Karlsson is such an interesting player. One thing for sure is that Benning is unfairly blamed for the OEL trade when really he should have been blamed for trading away Forsling. That is a painful trade.

I don't have any real evidence. Tocchet said that Boeser is a good listener. He didn't have to say that. I just believe Boeser will change his offseason training though.

We threw a lot of 1st and 2nd round picks as a team that really hasn't achieved crap under their watch. No matter how many hits they've had, which is not insignificant, there is no way in hell that this management gets a B+.

I'm convinced that Boeser will do a lot better next season. I'm not ready to give up on him and his contract.

Dries is a pretty decent, underrated forward. I thought he'd be the type where offense goes to die, but that isn't the case. He's demonstrated just how difficult it is to score in this league. The people who score a lot are among the best in the world.

Hilarious. Retool/Rebuild.. it's the same absolute donkeypoop that you're buying.

Yes, it's pretty obvious that this current GM is pretty hypocritical about what he says and what he does. It's a bit strange that people choose to argue the evidence or interpret it in such a way to defend the GM's actions. We can acknowledge that JR/Allvin have done good jobs with regards to pro scouting. But when it comes to planning for the future, they are doing a pretty bad job. A mid-first round pick and a high 2nd were traded. No other rebuilding team did that.

Detroit got a really nice haul for Hronek, essentially because they were able to draft someone with their picks. In 2016 as well as earlier, we were absolutely horrific with drafting. We can't be making any excuses for that, regardless of who the GMs were. Gillis' drafting record really needs to be scrutinized for what it was - dreadful.

A little bit funny because people discredited that same logic when it came to Horvat, citing that he had never put up that many points before

It is an overpayment. It should've been either a 1st rounder or a 2nd, but not both.

Our fanbase is hardly a shining example of morality. They have selective memory about things and will argue to the death about that, regardless of the evidence presented. They'd make excuses like "Well, what did the Twins get us? Nothing".

You do realize that trades have to be fully analyzed over a long period of time right? For example, we didn't know Forsling to be such a terrible trade after a good few years.