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They weren't bad goalies. Almost all of the goalies ended up doing better after Vancouver, including Holtby. Nilsson didn't cost that much and he did have some good games. Benning's problem was that almost every transaction that he did, whether it was trade or free signing, ended up blowing up in his face. Everyone talks about OEL being a bad trade. It really isn't at all, in the grand scheme of things. The worst one IMO is Forsling, one that didn't cost much initially, but ended up being a worse trade in the end. I also agree with @King HeffyThe personnel that were chosen to run the team were not very good. Keeping Green was a massive mistake.

Definitely was selling high. Hronek was their 2nd round pick, which after 7 years, they were able to not only recoup a HIGH 2nd round pick, but a 1st round too in a very deep draft. This was a no-brain trade for them. This was perfect asset management. The Wings also have collected a bunch of picks right on time for this draft. For a team that has not done very well for the past few years, the Wings look like they're in good hands for the rebuild.

Fair enough. Yzerman traded high for Hronek though. The Wings have so many picks this draft that Hronek was deemed expendable, especially since his age. Wings are gonna be a great youthful team for many years to come.

I dunno about even tempered. We traded away a mid 1st round AND a high 2nd rounder in a draft that is supposedly deep. Hronek is unproven so far with Vancouver. Remember Ballard back in the day? Great on Florida, but was underwhelming in Vancouver. I don't hate Hronek. I really just think we should not have made this kind of trade.

As much as I think this management has made better changes, trading away their (NYI's) 1st round pick AND 2nd round pick in a deep draft for Hronek is a huge price to pay. It's not at all the definition of a steal.

50,000 is really no big deal.

I didn't realize how much he's grown to play like that. It's one thing to play with an edge. It's another to bend it like Bennett.

The naming of this thread made me do a double take because it is virtually identical to the other one.

No thank you. I like Bear a lot.

Wow, this is a terrible look for you as a hockey fan. The Lady Byng has a historical significance in this sport for starters. Not to mention, there are players who play the game at a very high level while taking few (or no) penalties. Kopitar being one of these people. This is an incredibly difficult achievement to do and requires a high level of focus and commitment. I think your post is wayyyyy off the mark.

88 PIMs isn't going to win you the Lady Byng. Not even close.

Doerrie has demonstrated that she could be as much of a victim as she is a problem. It's shocking that you don't even attempt to address her own actions/behaviours off the ice, but blame everyone else for it. This is called making excuses. She has a lot of growing up to do. That much is clear.

I don't believe the Doerrie story at all.

There were multiple (unverifiable) sources on Twitter that mentioned this. One thing for sure was that the fishing contest was cancelled and Willie Mitchell deleted his social media. That is a lot of smoke. I'm not saying he sexually assaulted anyone though. There's really no definitive proof so far. There may be a lot of smoke, but it is just smoke.

This is not a good look on his part, obviously, but maybe this girl was planted in his room to make him LOOK guilty. It seems extremely outlandish. However, the one thing about Russia is that they have gotten away with pretty much everything thus far. 1) Putin's wealth 2) Mysterious billionaire deaths 3) Severely torturing opposition leader 4) War on Ukraine (with some exceptions) 5) International killings Not choosing Nichushkin at the draft, in hindsight, was a great move.

Ok, hold it right here. This narrative is patently false. I'm not meaning to defend Aqua here because he's made a ton of mistakes as an owner and is an unscrupulous businessman, but we can't just make stuff up. Fact: He has been committed to spending to the cap, regardless of whoever was GM. Fact: During Gillis' tenure, the facilities were upgraded/renovated. Anything revolutionary that Gillis tried, such as sleep doctors, he paid for those changes. Yes, it's been a while since that's happened. Fact: He has been hiring management/coaches left and right. It's clear that he is comfortable paying money. Whether or not it is effective is a TOTALLY different argument. We don't need new facilities to play better.

The practice facilities is kind of a nice thing to have, but not really necessary. Space is already at a premium and there's no sense in opening another building up. I suppose we could turn that practice facility into a community centre of sorts, but there's not many buildings in BC that are modernized AND are NHL ready. It's a luxury. We see Calgary's arena being financed by both the city AND the province, Vancouver fans shouldn't be whining about the lack of practice facility. Our owner at least doesn't rely on taxpayers.

Analytics are quite meaningless without the context. It's like +/-. Without any kind of reference point, the numbers can spun as both good and bad.

Here's the thing... this model doesn't explain why Boeser started to play much better hockey under Tocchet.

Dermott did nothing wrong during this time here. I don't understand the hate. He filled in the role admirably. He was steady on the backend. He wasn't flashy, but that's not what his game is about.

Fully agreed. We've seen the war on drugs and "tough on crime" approach to this for decades. DECADES. It has not gotten any better though. It's time for a fresh approach. No more criminalizing people for possession. More emphasis on drug addiction being a medical issue. Afterwards, we should move onto prostitution.

I agree that McDavid didn't help, but I disagree about Skinner. The Edmonton defense didn't tie up sticks. How can you have TWO LA Kings in the blue paint like that at any given time?

It's no secret that he has defensive lapses, but the payoff is his offense. Right now, he's been shut down. Draisatl has been magic.

Forsling sure is a good offensive D man, but he's gotta watch his man better than that.

You can tell the obsession about Benning is extremely unhealthy in this fanbase.