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We don't need him now. If we miss the playoffs, we still get a lottery pick. We need him for 2021 to make the playoffs. We can't give up on Juolevi until we see what he can do in the NHL because it would be horrible if a 5th overall pick busts for us.

The cap penalty is not high enough for anyone to be mad at Luongo for. It's not really a big deal. It would have been worse if he retired later.

A lot of people would take rookie Myers. Unfortunately, he peaked his rookie year and never lived up to his potential of that season. He's not that player today. It would be like saying you want 18 year old sam bennett today, when he's no longer that player now.

I'd avoid signing Myers this year if it meant going after Barrie next year. Squeeze Vegas for Colin Miller. If we suck this year, then so be it. We get another lottery pick in a deep draft. Sign Barrie next summer and do all you can to make the playoffs for 2021 to avoid giving Tampa a lottery pick.

Looks like I was right, that if Luongo was still a Canuck he would go on LTIR, but his loyalty is to Florida now and they preferred he retired. It is so canucks luck though to be the first team to be hit with the recapture penalty. Not counting the kings because that was self inflicted. https://twitter.com/frank_seravalli/status/1143946867467804673

Damn. I really thought he would go on LTIR like everyone else, but I guess the key difference was everyone else was still on their original team, while Luongo is no longer a Canuck, so he would feel less bad about hitting us with that recapture. The good news is it's only for 3m for 3 years and not the dreaded 8m it could have been later. We can handle that caphit without much problem for 3 years.

I do agree that aquilini probably has some or a lot to do with that. However, I wish they took the rangers approach which was to inform and prepare their fans for a rebuild without saying they're going to suck. https://www.nhl.com/rangers/news/a-message-from-glen-sather-and-jeff-gorton-about-our-team/c-295742648

Then Benning had unrealistic expectations since his goal before every season was playoffs and he routinely said that before each season.

Don't forget that picking high wasn't even the plan. Benning's goal was playoffs every year since he was hired. We're just lucky we missed the playoffs despite his efforts to make them because without #TeamTank, we would have no Pettersson.

Agreed. It's well known that cdc is pretty pro benning so the results are predictable, next comes reddit which slants more pro benning, but not as extreme as cdc and then hfboards if you don't want to read just blind homerism like here. HFboards is where you'll find the best and most realistic takes about the team.

18 year old Sam Bennett gets it!

I didn't watch that series, so can't say anything about that. However, that's not even the argument since big buff was there soaking up all the minutes and Myers was routinely getting around 4th in ice time among dmen, so if he looked good to you it helped that he was playing sheltered minutes. I'm fine with Myers being a 4th dman for us. I'm not fine with paying a 4th dman 7m.

But Myers isn't that guy, which is the point. From all accounts he struggled badly when big buff went out with injury and he was forced to play more minutes against the other teams top lines.

Isn't this an argument against signing Myers, since you argue things can change quickly, so why sign a bad long term contract this summer? I actually haven't read the whole thread so am not sure if you're in favour of a 7 year 49m deal for Myers.

Signing depth stop gap dmen, instead of overpaying for a number 4/5/6 dman on huge long term deal because you're trying to rush the rebuild. It shouldn't be trying to load up and going for bust at making the playoffs this year. I don't understand why the timeline for making the playoffs has to be this year. A rebuild takes time. I was thinking playoffs in 2-3 years from now and not so much this year. The 2020 draft is supposed to be pretty good, so at least our pick is protected there if we're bad again this year. Add that pick, Pod and any other draft pick that pans out to our young core, then by 2022 we should have a pretty good team. I know people are impatient, but rebuilding takes time. Throwing out a bad contract to try to speed up the rebuild is a bad idea. A Panarin contract would legitimately speed up the rebuild and would be a game changer and something I would be happy about. A Myers contract might speed it up a little, but more in terms of speeding up to mediocrity instead of contenders like a Panarin would. I'd hate to end up like Minnesota. Constant playoffs, but constant early exits.

I don't understand this logic. Just because the canucks need change, doesn't mean they need to give out a bad contract. Sign depth stop gap guys like Jordie Benn, etc. If there's no elite level D available in this year's free agency crop, then so be it and accept that and walk away instead of paying absurd prices for 2nd tier dmen. People aren't afraid of spending big money on players that are worth it. If it was Panarin signing a huge long term deal, then people like me and everyone else would be rolling out the red carpet. I just hate the logic that the canucks need to hand out a bad long term deal just for the sake of change. Imagine if the oilers or leafs were thinking about giving out this deal to myers. Everyone here would be rightfully laughing at them, but because some people have to defend every move Benning makes, they'll just accept and defend the Myers deal when they wouldn't if it was any other team, but the canucks. Your statement is a strawman because we do want change, but we want smart changes, not dumb ones.

I wanted caufield, but wanted high end offensive guys first, so I'm ok with the Pod pick because he's got a high ceiling. It's no problem waiting 2 years for him.

What a beautiful way for the Bruins to lose on home ice in game 7! It would have stunk to see Marchand and the Bruins win another cup!

Man I've been listening to all the tributes on 1040 and it's just so sad. It's hard not to tear up listening to them. It's cool to hear tributes from Mike Gillis and Laurence Gilman as they were glowing in their praise for him. Looking at that family picture is tough knowing his kids will grow up without their dad.

Damn. I'm so shocked and saddened by this news. I loved reading the provies/athletties. I just feel so sad for his family and young children.

Caufield is my pick! I can just imagine him sniping goals with horvat or pettersson.

Caufield just reenforcing why I would love him as our pick!

If we stay 9th, I saw go for the homerun in Caufield! DeBrincat would be a top 5 pick in his draft now if it wasn't for his size. All Caufield does is score goals!

Henrik Zetterberg played all 82 games in his last year and then went on LTIR for the next season due to his back. Luongo already misses a bunch of games due to injuries, unlike zetterberg, so he can easily go on LTIR due to his hips/knees.

Hmm first shut out of the year with no gudbranson. Schenn looked more than fine as a replacement and acted as a deterrent to Anaheim trying anything in a 4-0 game.