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14 minutes ago, -SN- said:
I might do something crazy like adding the neg button back.
Invoking CDC history...
Negatives... do we really need them?
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It feels a bit "Milton" from office space.
"Just stop paying him (kill the links) and the problem will go away"
That or it was just a ****up. One or the other.
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It's a good first step.
The ads themselves aren't going anywhere, but the shills get dumped at least.
Next step, treat them like cigarette ads. Nowhere to be seen.
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Jovo / Tanev would have been an absolutely deadly pairing.
So
(3)Miller / Linden(4) / Smyl (2)
Jovo(3) / Tanev(3)
Miller (2)
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Watching some of those hits at the end... wow. Predatory head hunting at its finest. Slewfooting. Kneeing. High elbows. Running guys headfirst into the boards. Running goalies intentionally.
There were a couple of clean, good hits in there but mostly stuff that I'm glad gets penalized now. People say "oh guys had more respect back then"... clearly not, looking at that.
Still, thanks for the blast from the past.
In return, my favourite play of the last 21 years. And it'll be the last 22 years next year.
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Important to note: Quality dictates quality, not price. Lots of expensive *garbage* out there (not just in hockey land).
"You get what you pay for" to a degree most of the time though - but consider that for 'gear', only your blades 'touch the ice' - like tires on a car - it's worth it to step up.
Lighter and better quality materials make a world of difference - if you have 'great' skates and then go 'put on rentals' or other crap ones, you'll notice how heavy your feet are in the crap ones. You'll likely have a better quality fit, more ankle/foot support, and potentially better glide out of the steel post-sharpen.
If you skate a lot, and have had the same ones for almost 15 years, I would say go for some higher end skates. Try to see if there's any last-ditch "summer" disposal sales of good gear from last year, you can do pretty well sometimes.
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38 minutes ago, Dazzle said:
I should've specified that it's better than a 60 k salary, which I think is average (below average in some places).
Depends where you live.
I know a guy (and played with other AHL guys who figured the below out early that they weren't going to make it and got out) who played in the Tampa farm system a few years, so close to that ticket to the show and his minors salary barely covered the costs associated with living in Norfolk. The AHL grind is rough too, lots of 'road time' - you still have to pay all the same bills, but you're on a bus a LOT, and the road per diem for the A is not what it is for the NHL.
19 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said:And sometimes, players just love what they do. Would he like a starting gig in the NHL and get millions, of course. But making $60-80K for doing something you love, is not the worst thing in the world.
The issue is these are guys who USUALLY went straight from junior - no college or anything. So their only knowledge/education/experience when they age out of hockey - in their late 20s/early 30s - is high school education and 'how to play hockey pretty good'. While the rest of 'us' were getting experience working or perhaps college/uni degrees, they're "10 years behind" as it were.
Sure they made $80-130k a year pre tax as a 20-something. But often in a high COL area, and considering hockey players are not usually the brightest knives in the bowl, there's not likely to be very much if any of that left - and they're left with recurring/nagging body pains from 20 years of hard hockey for the rest of their life.
For some, that's worth it, I'm sure. But I've seen the results of 'not' making it and that life isn't what it's cracked up to be, at least in my own opinion / observations.
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1 hour ago, Bounce000 said:
Can we run over all the jaywalkers?
That was Carmageddon.
Which really needs a remake imo.
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3 minutes ago, chon derry said:
That’s funny I never seen anyone get the s**t beat out of them. I did see some chippy crap from both sides. As well as slashing ,cross checking that both teams seemed to be getting away with in their series’s leading up to the SCF. Don’t tell me tkacuk didn’t get away with crap to help get the panthers as far as they did. The size advantage can’t be understated. Good teams win by staying healthy. Big teams stay healthy because smaller teams can’t dictate their game over the larger team. it’s pretty simple.
The boarding, elbowing and charging calls are what went uncalled.
And you are correct, the bigger team does stay healthier - when they can do that sort of thing. The panthers were stick pric*s so they weren't angels by any stretch. And I certainly didn't want them to win based on their antics. This is the first SCF where I actively wanted both teams to lose. But the differential in the calls - Vegas could do the boarding / charging (watch their hits) with impunity. Florida didn't have the size to do that, and when they did try, they got gooned AND lost the penalty swing too. No win situation, just like 2011.
I'm more salty about Vegas winning because it's clearly about the money. Gary can say "Hey, look, successful team off the bat. Pony up" the next time an expansion or sale rolls around. Double down with how the Campbell thing was with the Canucks 10 years ago - documented and proven favouritism, the NHL is bush.
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3 minutes ago, chon derry said:
Let’s not forget the knights are comprised of mostly Canadians. I see a lot of disgruntledness and understandably so. But there’s a lot of hometown celebration right now across Canada. The bitter taste of Vegas winning it isn’t any more sour than any of the other 30 teams that could have won it, outside of the Canucks realm. They were deserving while their opponents throughout the series were dropping through attrition they seemed to get stronger or at least stay healthy. That’s a good team over there.
When you're allowed to beat the s**t out of the other team and not take penalties for it, it makes it easy to drop the other teams to attrition.
They had 6 guys on the ice for Vegas jerseys and 2 guys with orange armbands all year. Easy to look good like that.
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2 hours ago, Odd. said:Seeing who Vegas won with… I hope OEL gets bought out and Beauvillier, Boeser, Myers, and any lacklustre player gets shipped out with a warning label “Please handle with care, fragile”
When a team like Vegas gets zero penalty minutes until late in the third (when it was a puck over the glass) in any game (The previous game), it means there's f**king shenanigans. And this game... 2 minutes all game. So 2 penalties for Vegas in the flow of play over two entire games.
Ignoring the 'end of game tack on' penalty minutes that mean absolutely nothing, penalties from the flow of game play... a team that plays like Vegas does... they've gone remarkably clean all of a sudden.
So yeah, you can build a lineup like theirs knowing they won't get called for whatever they do. See: Boston. Put Myers on that team he still wins because he can run guys and dome them and he won't get called like he does here.
It's that simple. Add in the BS with Chicago getting that pick, this is monetized entertainment like wrestling. I have zero confidence that any of this is at any time above board. It's about the money. Thinking there's sport here is just disappointing.
And for the record **** the Panthers too. I wanted both of them to lose, but watching it be gifted with so many non-calls, it's just dogsh*t.
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6 hours ago, Chickenspear said:
Godspeed. I haven't had McD's since the fateful cheeseburger eating competition I had with my roommate 15 years ago... 28 cheeseburgers, and I still feel sick about it.
So if you got 28 how many did your roommate do?
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5 hours ago, Kevin Biestra said:
Yeah I mean if you look at the bubble run Canucks as the 1989 team and this upcoming year as something like 1993 or 1994, Toews could fit in well as the Murray Craven. What the team really needs desperately is the Babych, Diduck and Murzyn.
People like to make fun of Murzyn's skating but if anybody went near the net or hacked at the goalie, he made sure they didn't do it again.
And you are right, the team could really use some of that. If you are going to take a penalty, make it *worth* taking the penalty.
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I have a Facebook account basically for the marketplace and occasional post (I think I average one every 7-8 months) as a 'wellness check'. And happy birthdays.
I deleted every other account - no twitter, no linkedin, nothing. "Social Media" is a curse and should be avoided.
I've even reeled way back on forums like here and Reddit. And gone outside more... because that's the world that matters.
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Edit... nevermind, Not worth it. Delete.
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3 hours ago, DeNiro said:
Fair points and thank you for the civil discourse. You’re one of my favourite posters on here because of that.
Some other people could learn from that but for now they’ll live in my ignored list.
Don’t have time for people who immediately jump to petty insults cause you disagree with them. I’ve been on here too long to deal with the squawking.
Edit: not worth it. Delete.
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37 minutes ago, DeNiro said:
That’s because the American Airlines Center holds more not because they’re a better hockey market.
Let’s compare those numbers when the Stars go into a rebuild or are consistently not making the playoffs. That’s the true test of a hockey market.
Alright, since you're clearly talking out your ass and I've busted you on it, just put the goalposts where they'll sit rather than continuously move them. But I'll address the current argument too, because why not.
By your current extremely vague "hockey market" metric, the Habs, Leafs, Rangers are a hockey market and... that's about it. Chicago clearly isn't, they're down 5k fans from their building capacity 'because they're losing'. Not a hockey market by that "percentage of sell out" metric, so pull the team. Detroit was down 7k last year and is down ~5k this year off how many their building CAN hold, better pull that team too. Put it in Saskatoon, they'd sell out every night. Ignoring that they're still pulling more fans than 60% of the league anyway.
The more 'bodies' you have in an area the more chance you have of the diehards who stick around - IF they have a reason to give a shit, which is where good ownership and management come in. When you have a building 'that holds more' and as a result you're still drawing more people than "hockey markets" even with 5k empty seats because there are simply more people to draw FROM, then your definition goes out the window. In 16/17, Dallas was pretty shit (the last time they were even sub.500) and still drew 18,100 Fans - more fans than the Rangers, Bruins, Ottawa (lol), Winnipeg, Colorado (by 4000 fans, fairweather, should have pulled that team then too because they were losing) and a bunch of others.
And that *entirely* ignores the commercial enterprises in those areas. The Houston metro region alone has more people than ALL of BC. And Calgary. Combined.
So put them goalposts in the ground somewhere.
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1 hour ago, DeNiro said:
That’s nice but Alberta is a hockey market, Texas is not…
Define "hockey market".
If you mean "Canada and states touching Canada" then no.
But Carolina and Tampa are second to Montreal in league attendance this year.
On that note, Dallas is ahead of BOTH Calgary AND Edmonton. Albertan hockey markets.
https://www.hockeydb.com/nhl-attendance/att_graph_season.php?lid=NHL1927&sid=2023
If you go back a few years, Dallas is at or near the top of attendance of most years. Even when they're terrible.
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19 hours ago, DeNiro said:
Not so sure about that.
All they’re doing is taking money away from the Stars who already have a tough time filling the building when the team is good.
Its not always just about population size.
I doubt they'll take too much from the Stars. It's a Dallas/Houston thing. Like Edmonton / Calgary on steroids.
More likely the symbiotic hate will kick both teams up a notch.
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8 minutes ago, DeNiro said:
No I mean Vegas and Seattle can help pay for Atlanta and Houston when the ultimately start bleeding money from the rest of the league.
Houston won't - IF they have good ownership and management.
It's an absolutely enormous metro area (6.6 million) with big $$$ and an instant rivalry target in Dallas.
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24 minutes ago, AlwaysACanuckFan said:
If it didn't work in Atlanta before why would it work now
They don't care.
The owners get the expansion $$$. They got a taste with Vegas and Seattle and now they want more.
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36 minutes ago, Baratheon said:
Imagine an all time dream panel of Dave Pratt, Neil Macrae, Thomas Drance and Dan Russell. Just shredding everything right down to individual players facial hair. “This team is never going anywhere as long as they don’t have a handlebar moustache on the team!”
Don't you put that evil on me.
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4 hours ago, Roger Neilsons Towel said:
100%. He’d be a fan favourite. Unfortunately he gets called for so many penalties he gets gun shy. Just play your game bro. Our fans will appreciate it more.
Our best physical players have had 70-140 pims a season.
And we historically love them unless they do something catastrophically stupid.
I’ve always said that if ‘gifted’ forwards are taking that extra second to look around and see if somebody massive is about to knock them into orbit, that’s one less second on the puck they have to make plays - and that’s a long time in the NHL. If we eat a few elbowing, roughing, boarding and such physical penalties to make that happen… I’m okay with that.
When defencemen are taking hooking, holding, tripping lazy calls, those are the ones that get me cheesed off.
so Myers playing like he did tonight, clearly interested in just killing leaf players, that’s a good thing and he should do that every night. Stop pretending to be Neidermayer, and actually be Scott Stevens.
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[discussion] forum closure
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Getting back to the topic at hand here. Jason Statham.