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Against preseason lineups. There's no question he'll be a top performer in the AHL, but will that translate against proper NHL players? Skating was a question, and even with improvement can still be, and he wasn't likely filling a bottom 6, PK role. They tried to sneak him through, possibly even avoiding showcasing him in more games by doing so early. It didn't work. Time will tell if it matters or not.

What Sid said. I'm on board with a claim for Fluery considering how it's gone with Hamonic, even if it's short term. Add to that Keeper's fractured leg, not having heard much of anything useful from Bowey, and it's worth a shot.

I'm known amongst my friends as someone that, even if I have an opposite opinion to them, will have a measured and thoughtful discussion on the topic. I've always been able to do that, listen to their side, respectfully disagree usually, and stay friends. This isn't a subject I've been able to do that though. I've had the thoughtful discussions, figured I made a few good points, and left thinking I may have even won them over or at least opened their minds a little on how bad the contrary information that's out there can be. But then, there's always a new response a day or two later, either in a message direct to me, or on a social media post of mine or someone else's where they're back spouting the latest anti-vaxxer fake news. It may be that I have friends who aren't being so outwardly anti-vax so that I'm only seeing the ones on the edge, but I've never had such a hard time remaining reasonable with people over a topic. I can't keep trying to discuss a topic with people like that. This all has been frustrating enough without having people being so outwardly oppositional while really not being able to back up anything they say with actual facts rather than conspiracy theories. I won't resort to the vitriol, but I can understand why others do, especially when they've been affected personally by Covid. So yes, I'm double vaccinated. I took the AZ as soon as I could get it rather than wait on a Pfizer/Moderna shot, and then waited one week extra for the second to get Moderna. I did it for myself, my friends - especially people I know who can't get vaccinated - and for everyone else in the hopes we'll find a new normal.

Someone better be making sure Klim doesn't skip leg day... But yeah, that and the practice pic with Podkolzin beside Hoglander shows he isn't somehow 6'4" or anything like that. 6'1"/1.5" maybe, but I'm sure he's solidly built.

It's a pretty easily searchable: https://theathletic.com/2708217/2021/07/15/shea-webers-career-threatening-injuries-could-cause-cap-recapture-pain-for-the-predators/ As brownky said, Nashville saved on cap because they paid more real money on his front loaded contract but saved on his lower cap hit, where Montreal pays him less now (but still has had some cap benefit so has some recapture).

Usually teams that have to dump cap quickly have to also give up incentives to do so. That often means picks, and if the dump is big enough, it probably means a 1st, which then rules them out. Not that it's impossible, just unlikely.

That's if they have the required picks or not.

I liked the theory, but the results weren't there. Granted, they didn't have any DPs all season, and Ryan Gauld is looking promising coming in during our no loss streak, but MDS hadn't shown enough.

No one chooses to have dump and chase as their main form of zone entry. It's forced upon teams/lines that have a lower skill level than the opposition for controlling the puck. Sometimes it's good to mix it up with the odd dump and chase - particularly when you think you can catch a team unaware - but every team would prefer to be able to skate the puck in.

This is especially true when for Rathbone to succeed he'll need the kind of minutes that best use his skills. With Hughes at least and OEL ahead of him for those type of minutes, and that we can't just keep him on the bench until those minutes present themselves in a game. PP is the obvious answer, but 2nd unit. He'll get time 5 on 5, but what kind of zone starts can we give him and still share with the others? PK is very unlikely. It's possible he fits over Juolevi, but the team has requirements it must fill as you say.

Do you mean this one? It was there when I replied, so I couldn't understand why you were upset. That, and why you'd call out the mods in a thread considering all the other crap going on. But you do you.

I don't know if the NHL or CHL only rule applies only if a player was drafted from the CHL, or if it would also apply if he played in the CHL for a season after the draft. It may not. Obviously overseas is not impacted either way.

Actually, there is a provision for players who are 18/19 as of Sept 15th in their signing year. If he were 19 and turning 20 before the end of the year, then it wouldn't. I stand corrected. I still wouldn't have any issue with having him in the AHL though.

You think after everything else going on in this thread your GIF getting deleted gets a courtesy message? The mods have been busy enough, I wouldn't get too worried about it. But that's some perspective. After a thread about a depth UFA defenceman signing reaching 90+ pages, we can worry about a post and a pissing match. Glad we don't have as much to worry about as we have at some really low times in Canucks history.

Oh, you absolutely pay for potential. Especially in a free agent market with other teams interested. If a team didn't think there was any potential for improvement, they wouldn't have stuck around when they found out other team were in, they would have put up and offer they thought was worth what he'd already showed and then seen if he'd accepted. But that's even true with re-signing your own RFAs, and we'll see that with Pettersson and Hughes. You definitely don't pay to 100% of their potential, because they rarely reach it, but also to make sure to get some value back for having a little faith. Regardless, you can bet the players' agents are all arguing potential when negotiating new contracts, so it factors in.

Do you think AV will change his mind? Then it's time to change yours, at least about continuing to argue with him. Anyone who wants to read through all these mostly useless pages will see the truth of it. Now, anyone want to talk about Poolman in a normal conversation?

This, and if someone does with any decent term attached, I wouldn't blame him for accepting it. That's a lot of money. It would depend on the team of course, since I'm not sure he'd sign the offer sheet for, say, Buffalo, but still. As for us, if Buffalo offered it and Petey signed it, that would be 4 great 1st rounders since they're still bound to be bad for a few years. If it's Tampa, Vegas, or some other top team - ignoring they wouldn't have the cap space - those 4 1sts wouldn't be nearly as enticing. In the end, it's moot since no one would offer that much, and Petey is unlikely to sign an offer sheet that isn't an overpayment.

Only if he plays in the CHL or goes back to Russia. Playing in the AHL would have us paying him under his NHL contract. He can't sign an AHL contract on top of his NHL contract.

I think that was rumoured to be something the Canucks wanted, where they could allow Dickinson to file and then sign him shortly after. Then, they could use the 2nd buyout window for Holtby if they couldn't find a taker, but of course they already took care of that. Hopefully this is just procedure and they'll come to an agreement soon. It might be getting held up a bit by the Pettersson and Hughes negotiations, but maybe that's all it is.

Glad you know it would be a mistake despite never having heard of him or seen him play.

If they can fit everything in, I agree. But I'm not doing math on a long weekend. It did sound like they're fully prepared to be pushing Halak's likely bonus(es) to next year already though, so I'll let them give Tampa a call.

Oh, I know how it works, but when you were so far over as Tampa was, they didn't have a lot of choice. They've corrected a lot of their cap issues though, this deal being a part of that, so I was just making a joke. I figured putting "straight up for Cernak" and the emoji in there would have tipped people off. I honestly haven't even looked (once all our players are signed) if moving Ferlund would get us that advantage, or if it would take it away from Tampa.

I took it as him wanting Poolman to push for top 4 level of play. If he gets some offence like two years ago and can be solid otherwise, it might not be top 4 on any team in the NHL, but it will be for us. EDIT: and I see some talking about Poolman with Hughes/OEL. Depending how you look at it, that could be playing on a top pairing. But I think between PP/PK/5v5 definitely Hughes, and likely also OEL will be logging big minutes so that their most regular pairings won't be with them all the time. So Poolman will be getting some decent minutes if he pairs with either of them but not really be considered a top pairing defenceman.