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Everything posted by elvis15
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They're probably too large to fit in the page so they're getting resized. Unless they look like that on your computer too, then it's you.
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My dad surprised me by mentioning Gaunce always being in the right spot. He'll mention things like, "that guy's fast," or, "he's really big," but doesn't often pick out positional things as much as he did with Gaunce.
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Adding more of the profile on Bo: PROSPECT PROFILE: #1 BO HORVAT
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We sort of already knew this, but good confirmation that he's getting closer.
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Yup, Dasein noted Matthias and I added Bonino and Vey. I think we all share the hope that Bo could be 3rd line center and be better at faceoffs due to his junior success, but we'll see.
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Bonino and Vey aren't particularly strong on faceoffs either, so that'd be ideal if Horvat can step in (and of course do well) as you've outlined and take pressure off Henrik. Richardson can do so as well, but having more than two options would be great.
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Yeah, that point was the one about him pacing himself playing in all situations and with major minutes where in the NHL he couldn't afford to pace himself against faster, stronger players - particularly since he'd be getting lesser minutes. I think all of us who are debating intelligently believe he'll make it if he's ready but the Canucks have no qualms about sending him back if he's not either.
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I think he tried smiling for a little too long and it got stuck like that. But if Virtanen and McCann can live up to all the hype, then they'd be a pretty fantastic pairing along with whatever other winger they get.
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The question started from J.R. saying not to base expectations on last year's outlier season - regardless of which of the three teams improved or went sideways. You replied the benchmark for last year applies to all teams but J.R. reiterated he was talking about it as an anomaly for the Canucks only, and I reconfirmed that since the Oilers and Flames have had consistently bad results where the Canucks had previously had good or great results until last year. That's all he was stating, if you were to look at a line chart of past seasons only one of those three teams would have a line where the last point is very inconsistent with previous points. None of that takes into account any other factors and shouldn't be used as a reliable predictor for success this year, but ignoring previous results and trends when considering what teams improved or what teams went sideways when trying to figure out who truly is better is also a mistake.
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Well played...
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Considering I specifically qualified the 'yes' for my reply as looking at just the overall season results not only for last year but for previous years to prove whether any were aberrations, that's how the Canucks are the only one whose season last year appears to be an outlier. If you want to talk about how the rosters have changed and what things actually look like factoring in everything, then it's much more open to opinion. But based on looking at past performance for each team, the trend lines for Calgary and Edmonton are very similar (low, level lines) where the Canucks' is not the same at all (higher, slowly decreasing line with a major drop at the end).
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As av mentioned, the transfer agreement had expired that year so the 'loan' stuff went out the window. That's back in place now though, so regardless of Jensen's past situation the likelihood of Horvat or any other CHL player going to play overseas on loan is very unlikely. More on the Jensen situation when it happened: http://canucksarmy.com/2012/6/20/nicklas-jensen-likely-to-play-in-the-sel-next-season I still thought I remember seeing something for Jensen where Oshawa had to ok the move, but I can't find it now. Regardless, different situations between then and now.
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Technically, yes. The Oilers and Flames results last year weren't an aberration but rather par for the course when factoring in previous seasons as well. Now, both teams have made some changes (particularly in net) so could well improve, but just looking at whose season was an anomaly between the three and stands the best chance to rebound on that alone, the Canucks are a clear choice.
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PROSPECT PROFILE #7: BRENDAN GAUNCE Down from #1 last year (which was too high by almost everyone's estimation) to #7 this year, despite having a pretty good season after moving to Erie and playing a pivotal role there.
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I'm not sure why they wouldn't be offered contracts, unless they have major downswings in their coming seasons or a crazy injury that forces them to retire or something.
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PROSPECT PROFILE: #8 BEN HUTTON
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It's not if Horvat agrees, it's if London agrees. I mean, Horvat would likely have to agree as well, but to think London would let him play his last junior eligible year overseas is very unlikely. Just because Oshawa did it with Jensen, doesn't mean it's a very plausible option, especially for a North American born player.
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PROSPECT PROFILE: #13 THATCHER DEMKO
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They aren't talking about when you can or can't send him down so much as whether or not you can keep him up and just not play him in that 10th game to avoid the contract kicking in. Clearly that wouldn't be helpful for Horvat to begin with, to just sit in the press box rather than play, so they aren't going to just put him in every 7th or 8th game to keep his contract from kicking in.
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I think he won't be lost in the pros, but an overage season wouldn't hurt either. I'd guess pros, even if it means he spends some time in Kalamazoo if Utica's too crowded.
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And from that article: PROSPECT PROFILE: #18 EVAN MCENENY
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A year ago at the draft we didn't yet have Horvat (and Cassels) in our prospect pool, and were looking at Gaunce, Shroeder, Lain, Friesen, Mallet, etc as our center depth. Nichuskin had questions about his overall game and certainly the Russian factor had some impact on any team's likelihood to draft him. Conversely, while Virtanen does have questions about his overall game, he doesn't have any Russian factor, instead being the exact opposite as a local kid. And that was after we'd added Horvat and Cassels to the center group I'd listed above (as well as McCann now too) where we could use an offensive threat from the wing. My opinion was with a pick that high in a draft but just outside the consensus top 5 and without quite the same superstar level talent we'd be best served by picking the highest skill level possible. As I'd said, for my money that was Nylander, who could be a #1 center or winger in the NHL if he can overcome the risk associated with him. Virtanen is a safer pick with very good upside, but not the same level of elite upside as someone like Nylander (or some of the top 5 picks). While I agree that even before the draft the Canucks management seemed less willing to take someone highly skilled but smaller like Nylander over a North American style player like Virtanen - and of course they eventually did just that - I didn't share that opinion and that's why I favoured a different pick. I wouldn't say it's quite splitting hairs but close enough. Was it a good pick? Sure, but there are plenty of us looking at it logically wondering if a better pick could have been made based on who was available and what type of prospect we lacked in our system. What's done is done though, we'll support him going forward and I don't know that any of the logical crowd are angry or anything that we picked him (there certainly are a few others just emotionally reacting that way though).
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Seems the Hitmen aren't even sure which wing he plays on. It'd make sense as a shooter that he'd play on his off wing, but being someone who likes to carry the puck that's easier on your regular side so I'm not sure. The highlight videos from last season have him breaking in off both wings, and making plays when set up in the zone from either side of the ice - maybe he plays both sides?
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Fiala very high. He's good, but everyone will find something to disagree with on a top 100 list.