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All that training from his D partner

Cheech is so humble, loves the job but not the spot light. Married 50 years , NHL'r/ analyst for 50 years..... Apple Pie. gonna missed him big time

He@l ya, Cheech story time! one more 'desperado' comment please. Cheech and Shorty = GOAT

The 6 million dollar adventure to tank heaven.

Hows this. Keep OEL for one more year to see how he does with an RD not named Myers. The buyout would be fuggly Garland, Beau, Myers traded and assuming Pearson is good to go. If he's not we have an extra 3M to work with 81.5 M Kuzy- Petey- Mik PDG- Miller- Boeser Pearce- F. Gaudreau- Podz Hogs- Aman - Josh Hughes- Dumba OEL- Hronik Gavrikov- Bear Hirose- Juulson/ Burroughs Demmer- Delia/ Silovs

We should be able unload Myers after his bonus is paid out and keep OEL. He had a good bounce back year last year when playing with Myers most of the year. This cannot be said for any defensive partner of Myers since he's joined the Canucks. Also OEL was obviously playing hurt this year. Imagining a healthy OEL with Hronek as a main stay D partner or even Bear is worth seeing what we really have. If healthy he's a top 4 I believe. If he fails with a legit D partner then we try to sweeten the pot, retain 15% salary and make a move in 2024-25. A buyout would be the absolute last resort as the large cap hit time frame of the buy out is when our core will be their best . We need all the cap space possible in 2026-2028

That had nothing to do with Kuzmenko. Bad habits creeped in with St Louis as well. Even though I hate Calgary more then a root canal, this is a test to see how Tocchet handles these bad habits now rather then the start of next season.

Glad he's "zipping" it on the pressers and letting PA and team do their job. Hopefully the current successes translates to the 2nd half of 2023 and beyond Confirms Bear will probably get signed this summer.

Baumer asking Foote for tips on defense deployment

Come a long way since Baumer was doing his magic.

Thinking 2.2M for 3 years or something like that. He's going to be 26 in June so don't expect much more on a show me year. His minutes indicate a 3rd pairing D can play top 4 when needed. He's not involved with either of the PP units and is #4 or 5 man on the PK so most minutes are 5-5. Decent puck retriever, not overly physical, OK offensive numbers. 2M range is the most he's worth and he been treated well in Van after sitting in Carolina.

I think Bear gets reupped for a year or 2 for about 2M since he's not a UFA He's a solid 3rd pairing RD that we need and that can play top 4 minutes when required. Would be nice to sign 1 more NHL ready guy for 3rd pairing LD in the summer and then Hirose, Breezer/ Wolanin can battle for injury callup or 7th-8th ready to go

Like this signing! High IQ , good 2 way, shifty D man and we now need a lefty to compete for 3rd or 4th pairing. He could be the one after some Abby time to "play the right way" Don't see Dermott being resigned with concussion issues. Already have Poolman and Pearson questionable to start next season.

Absolutely, great Canuck ambassadors. I think their presence and experiences are an incredible asset for all European players coming in to Van. Not just Swedes. It may partially swayed a signing or even a trade where a player would add Van to their trade list, along with our core players.

We may when Myers 6m contract in gone next year or this summer. An OEL contract buyout should be in the works in 2-3 years depending on uhmmmm a million scenarios

Yeah he's brought his game to a new level under Tocchet. In some ways I hope they leave A's on the 3 leaders as they're all playing possibly their best hockey. Not just points wise.

I believe this team is different then in the past. We're not close to being a contender but for the first time in over 10 years we have proven core pieces to get us there. Pettersson, Hughes, Demko. All 3 are elite and arguably the best in their position for the Canucks in the past 2 decades and they're younger then Sedin, Sedin, Luongo. We have a coach that management wants now instead of lame duck Bruce and he is ultra focused on not winning now, but building structure for the future. They just happen to be winning with a #1 goalie back, improved structure and most players buying in. Whether it's Brock, Garland, Myers, OEL buyout etc... that we do this summer, I believe management will make a thoughtful move instead of a desperate one. Bringing in Kuzmenko, Mikheyev, Hronek, Bear and other depth pieces have helped It will be a 2-4 year plan that will make us competitive and hopefully a contender in that time.

Mullet arena welcomes your new head coach!

Did a compare between 2008-9 and 2023 Canucks On paper our top 6 F is comparable as well as Demko vs Luongo Their core at the time- Sedin, Sedin, Kesler, Bieksa, Mitchell, Luongo Ours- Pettersson, Kuzmenko, Miller, Hughes, Hronek, Demko By 2011 Canucks flipped half their D with 2 excellent signings and an iffy trade as we all know. We need to do the same They had more grit then the current team but we have Hughes. We need some successful signings and trades obviously but not all is lost as we have our core. 2008-9 Canucks 2023 Canucks Sedin- 27 Sedin - 27 Burrows 27 Kuzmenko- 26 Pettersson- 23 Beauvillier- 25 Raymond- 22 Kesler- 24 Demitra- 33 Boeser- 25 Miller- 29 Mikheyev- 27 Hansen- 22 Wellwood- 25 Bernier- 23 Podkolzin- 21 ? Garland- 26 Pyatt- 27 Johnson- 32 Hordichuk- 28 Kravtsov- 22 Aman- 22 Joshua- 26 Edler- 22 Bieksa- 27 Hughes- 22 Bear- 25 Ohlund- 31 Salo- 33 OEL- 31 Hronek- 26 Obrien- 25 Mitchell- 31 Dermott- 25 Myers- 32 Luongo Raycroft Demko ? Key Adds 2010-11 Samuelsson Top 6 W Key add in 2 years 3rd line C Hamhuis Top 4 D Top 4 RD Ehrhoff Top 2 D Top 4 LD Rome Top 6 D Top 6 W Malhotra 3rd line C Top 6 D Ballard Top 6 D Top 9 Grit Torres 3rd line Grit Key losses Demitra Key losses in 2 years Bernier Myers Ohlund Dermott Mitchell Boeser Obrien Garland Wellwood OEL buyout

Agree Bruce and his personality struck a chord last year and the players bought into his style of play, especially after Greens style. I think the problem at the start of this year and training camp is that his style, and the style management was looking was never going to work. You can't teach a 30-40 year coach to change his style to a more structure based system when he's had great success with his own offensive, aggressive style of coaching. You add no contract extension and criticism from Rutherford and it was doomed to fail. Looking forward to next year with Tocchet (their guy) carrying on with one coaching direction. OEL (please, no buy out!) and especially Myers will work better under a more systematic defensive game. Already showing with Myers.

Was on the Bear train to success when he started, but I wonder if we focus that 2M or so against a true top 4 defensive D man to pair with Hughes. Burroughs could be our answer for a RD bottom pairing for less and I think his game matches what Tocchet would like to see. Also when possible concussion news hits most Canuck players it does not turn out well

Arty! our new official backup.

Kuzy taking salt over Bananas? go figure....

If we buyout OEL we need 2 more. Thinking we keep OEL for another year to see how he does under Tocchet and healthy If Tocchet can keep Myers play consistent we could simply have Hughes- Bear OEL - Hronek PK LD - Myers who knows- Burroughs

He's playing Toccey