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Bedard is going to end up in Chicago no matter where they finish in the bottom of the standings. Book it.

Tocchet will be Tortorella 2.0 imo. Bringing in a hard ass who is also a real life dick won’t get more out of this mentally fragile group of players.

I think I would actually enjoy a rebuild at this point. Rutherford and Allvin (who was absolutely the wrong choice imo) are not inspiring any confidence they would be the right ones to carry out such a strategy though. Hiring Rutherford could have been the right move if he resisted the urge to bring over his Pittsburgh group and focus on gimmicky diversity hiring rather than finding the absolute best people for the jobs. Ownership will never authorize a true rebuild so it’s all moot.

The common sense of this statement really hits you like a hammer doesn’t it?

I am going to really be surprised if Myers and Reilly in particular are not claimed. I could see Ottawa taking a shot at bringing Reilly back tbh.

Unfortunately the more likely reasons are he is a RHD and a Pittsburgh Penguin.

I bet this is who the Canucks pick up

Vegas is coming into the season feeling very confident with our projected starting lineup. E. Kane-Jenner-Tarasenko Debrincat-Stutzle-Hartman Hyman-Johansen-Tomasino Frederic-McLeod-Blais Kurashev, Gregor Chychrun-Toews Girard-Dumoulin Reilly-Stanley Borowiecki, McCabe (IR) Oettinger Georgiev

That was also less than 2 years into his tenure. He left when the Sedins retired and there was a lot of buzz that Benning’s perpetual retool song and dance (and the consolidation of power in a stripped down and cheaper head office) appealed a lot more to Aquilini than Lindens long term rebuild idea and ultimately led to Linden being forced out.

To be fair, every fan base is like that to some degree. Look at the Maple Leafs. They have a huge media machine behind them that is just as bad. Did you know Adam Gaudette is now a superior defensive bottom 6 center?

I have been on cdc a long time and two things have always been true here. 1. Many people overrate and overvalue our players and prospects. 2. Many people underrate and undervalue other teams players and prospects.

The best thing about that D was that there were two #1 quality pairings. There was no need for a workhorse #1 pairing that did everything. That was the point. The other point is that for the most part other guys could fit in for injury etc and the team not miss a step. That’s because we had all types of dmen unlike now where most bring a similar style and toolkit. One more top 4 D for a winger should not impact the cap much if at all. That would significantly balance things. But it needs to be the right type of dman for that to work.

Wow didn’t see this coming

I know right?

That is the crux of it for me. Building a team, right now specifically a defense corps, requires complimentary pieces. The best way I can explain it is think 2011. Edler-Ehrhoff Hamhuis-Bieksa Ballard/Alberts/Rome-Salo Pairings that could play the way the team was built to play and take on specific roles/usage that allowed the other pairs to take on their own role. Cup winning depth really means a group that fits well together imo. Thats the missing factor with our current D. Not terrible players, just a terrible collection when it comes to fitting together cohesively.

This. It’s all about the right D to fit with our long term pieces.

You aren’t wrong about any of this really. Here’s the thing though. This market has not had an emotional captain since Linden. We have had those calm, it’s all ok, nothing pisses me off guys. That’s very likely why some like Miller as a potential C. Horvat is essentially a continuation of the Sedins and Naslund and that’s not a negative just a long seen dynamic here.

I feel like a lot of people key on Severson more because he is likely available and on a team that has the ability to take back our contracts. I don’t think a big dollar, older UFA guy is the right idea to find a partner for Hughes though. Would have liked the Canucks at some point in the last 5 years to have understood the actual outsized value of having cap flexibility.

Anytime we Canucks fans get upset about our horrid draft history, let’s celebrate this epic failure.

This.

You are assuming that his demands last year before the TDL were the same as they were a month before training camp opens. You are also assuming that the dynamics of cap hit and term teams are willing to pay for 4th line guys has not seriously nosedived this offseason. Both of those assumptions are clearly false though. I love Motte but realistically he is very injury prone and entirely replaceable as a 4th line guy. Lazar and Joshua are good adds at their cap hits.

We really had no room for him. I think once we saw Lammikko and Highmore let go it was obvious the Motte ship had sailed too.

This is an under the radar great move by Ottawa. Adding that kind of motor to their bottom 6 will really help them. Good value for Motte too. Glad he went to a team I like. Ottawa has a few more holes to fill but finally are on the right track.

Iirc, all in the Janney situation basically amounted to the Canucks trading Petr Nedved for Jeff Brown, Bret Hedican, Nathan Lafayette, and a 2nd Round Pick. Not bad. Didnt St Louis then trade Janney for Jeff Norton?

True. He also didn’t have much on ice success so relatively speaking what he left was probably a lot less than he should have based on that futility. Trading high picks was his worst feature next to feast or famine drafting when he did keep them.