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  1. What was it?..his third season here when he bulked up in the summer? That season was where I first started noticing how his speed just went down dramatically. Listening to hockey "experts" discussing Boeser's lack of speed to start the season, I learned how when players do this, it usually takes awhile for them to adjust this new heavier frame on the ice. And he did show improvement again. But he'd still have those slow nights occasionally But occasionally has turned into a noticeable persistent lack of foot speed. More than that, maybe because of that, it seems to affect a lot of other aspects of his game. He is not strong on the puck, and most times loses puck battles along the board, or panics into giveaways. Now a lot of that could be forgiven if his first season shot was back. A lot is forgiven of Miller because of what he does offensively. Brett Hull basically was this kind of pure shooter, a bit slow, who wasn't great defensively but was lethal when in the right spot at the right time. The problem is I haven't seen this shot, at least consistently, for a couple seasons at least now. Not to say he's still a valuable goal scorer, just not a 7.5 million dollar one. If he could be had for a home town price of 5 or 5.5 million as a 20-25 goal scorer, I'd be okay with that. But if not, I am starting to come around to trading Brock. Just like we found Ottawa to take on Hamonic when no one thought we'd find a partner, I'm sure there is one team out there who will pay a good price for him.
  2. Yup, another dumb and dumber decision by Benning and Weisbrod to let go the first really good amateur drafting director and department we've had. Which doesn't say much but still. With all kinds of connections to American hockey leagues. That connection led to his influence in pushing for Boeser, Demko, and Gaudette (although that one soured for other reasons). After Benning suddenly and unilaterally decided to fire two of Bracketts assistants in the season before his contract expired, Judd rightly demanded that he have final say in who he hires to help him run his own department. You'd think, just after helping to land Petey and Hughes, that would be a minimum ask. But too much for the control freak show of dumb and dumber.
  3. Hunt is one of Boudreau's favourites. Another undersized defenseman who may be getting a little too much ice time. Because BB has a history coaching him in junior as well as with the Wild.
  4. I first saw this discussed in the Hamonic thread. I had thought it was a combination of his concern for his daughter's health + a lot of misinformation being fed to him by his evangelical anti-vax community. Things like vaccinated people can "shed" dangerous and highly contagious heart and other serious medical conditions onto those around you. I heard this view from my neighbour, who is also afraid of the shot. It would explain the hesitancy of Canucks management to not go too hard on him for not vaccinating soon enough to start the season. With him believing his daughter may be in peril. Give him more time to be convinced by team doctors etc.. But days turned to weeks, turned to months. I can see why the rest ot the team could be a bit miffed at him. They could have used him, playing a regular shift and giving 100%, early on in the season. I think Bo particularly wouldn't have a lot of patience for anti vax attitudes, after he missed a lot of games himself and his family too, because of the virus. But I put most of the blame on the proliferance of social media channel "experts", and other RW media that have their fun scaring as many gullible folks as they can. From the virus being a hoax, to it being so permeating you might as well not mask or vaccinate anyways, to the vaccine being many times more dangerous to you and loved ones than the virus itself, to....I think the latest is...... its really about being forced to live under a dictatorship. Its just sad how much of that circus affected Travis. Good luck on your new team.
  5. Fa get about Blight for Dwight, we are on a roll! Fa get about the lottery period. How about All In for Ohgren! (the projected 14th pick, and where we are projected to pick) Just play hard boys, end up where we do!
  6. Seriously. What happened to Brock? Watching these highlights its like night and day. He's playing like he's 35 not 25. Slow, and missing or flubbing shots. No confidence. He's also the player who passed the puck into Horvats skates to cause the counter rush by the Red Wings resulting in their only and winning goal against us. He is mostly always the one on the line who caused the turnover, can't win a puck battle. What happened to our All Star pick who won the MVP prize? So much promise. Sadly, I just don't see much of a rebound happening. He has steadily declined over a period of time now. He can still score, but he has to be in the right place at the right time. He doesn't create the scoring chances, he just finishes them....or is supposed to. If he starts even missing those chances, then its time to think about what we could get for him before the rest of the league catches on. Heck ,I don't want to trade Boeser, but because of the past GMs incompetence, We are in a position that we desperately have to find more cap space, and/or find more picks. So if I had to chose one of the "core" I'd choose Boeser.
  7. Tyler Motte's value WAS a 4th rounder. Your opinion is that Motte has not developed into a player worth more than when he first entered the league?
  8. You're right. I guess more like we got a player back that is worth a 3rd rounder. Plus a fourth. For Hamonic and Motte. Which isn't great, but not terrible.
  9. The one way I can be okay with today is if I do a little mental gymnastics, and switch what we got for Hamonic and Motte. We got a third and a fourth, For Motte and Hamonic. Plus added Richardson for nothing. go Canucks go
  10. Exactly. If Motte was a 4th round pick as a green rookie snot nosed kid, surely he's at least worked his way up to a 3rd round pick value by now. But yeah, I know, if you want be a Good Canuck Fan, you have to accept the mantra of "at least we got something for him" Which seems to be the high bar mark in Canuck land lately.
  11. Better than nothing. It all depends on what he was asking. If you just look at Mottes value to this team, outside of how every $100,000 is so important to help the cap issues JB set up for JR to deal with, I don't see how anyone here could honestly say Motte is not worth $2 million to this team, if that was what he was asking. His youth and speed are exactly what we need more of. We replace Motte on the 4th line with Richardson at $800,000, an older slower vet. Cap space is so valuable now to this team to recapture that we lose important pieces like our fourth line center solidified for years with a dynamic player like Motte. If he was asking no more than $2 million, that would have been well worth it, in a bubble. If Motte wanted more than that, then see ya later. But I don't get some folks here saying that 2 mill is too much. But Myers is paid $6 mill? Mottes contribution to the team is at least 1/3 the value that Myers is. Eventually you need a player like Motte to center your fourth line. So it just seems a little dumb to shed a player like this, and have to now try and replace the same quality of player for under $2 million. But of course, its this painful position of cap space that compels this management group to take the only return that NY gave them at the last second. Its just hard to take when all we've seen for a decade is this team shedding players we like, that still have good value, that play their hearts out.......Markstrom, Tanev, Toffoli, Stecher, for nothing, and having to keep the players we'd rather trade but can't move. Or the only way to move them is to take on a bad crippling contract like OEL, and/or buyouts on the cap every season. Did Benning have even one season where he wasn't paying out some recapture or buyout against the cap from some previous bad trade or draft? Canuck luck also in play in players being attractive as trade bait, as I'm sure a few teams had some of the shine dulled on Halak, to get as backup support, after his last two starts. Maybe the same with Boeser and his play this last month. Like a lot of trades, it could go either way. We may find another younger version of Motte in that 4th round pick. Who knows? Its just too bad this team was not in a healthier cap situation to be able to easily pay Motte, who is at least a known quantity, what he is worth. And $2 million for what he brings is not an overpayment on paper.
  12. I just want it done already. I know we may have to wait until summer. maybe even longer to pull most of the big moves, but I kinda hope he goes for it this TD. As long as the return is substantial enough. I really think Boeser has put himself on the block. Sad to see such a popular player decline like that. He just looks so slow out there. Especially for 7.5 milion. More than that, he's flubbing shots, and making poor decisions with the puck. Not only did he miff on 3 or 4 glorious chances, he lost possession quite a bit, stalling more than one forecheck in the offensive zone. And he was the one, if I'm not mistaken, who passed the puck into Bo's feet on the PP, leading to the turnover and one goal against. I say if other teams still value Brock highly, and thoughts of BB's big All Star splash still in their heads, trade him now, if we can get a first round pick and a prospect. And if we get a deal we can't refuse for Miller, then bye too. Even though my preference is for JR to be able to finagle deals around Miller instead. I think Petey and Quinn will just have to suck it up, and play through another rebuild. If JR can somehow manage to get back multiple 1sts, and some good young prospects, especially on defense, for a bundle of vets here, it may not take all that long to get back into contention as the league is getting younger all the time. If they pick carefully, we could have new young contributing players after one or two years to complement our present young stars.
  13. Here's for the Joe Rogan fans out there still taking horse dewormer, Very latest and largest study on the effectiveness of ivermectin on COVID: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/ivermectin-didnt-protect-people-from-covid-19-study-shows-11647602256 Researchers testing repurposed drugs against Covid-19 found that ivermectin didn’t reduce hospital admissions, in the largest trial yet of the effect of the antiparasitic on the disease driving the pandemic. Ivermectin has received a lot of attention as a potential treatment for Covid-19 including from celebrities such as podcast host Joe Rogan. Most evidence has shown it to be ineffective against Covid-19 or has relied on data of poor quality, infectious-disease researchers said. Public-health authorities and researchers have for months said the drug hasn’t shown any benefit in treating the disease. Taking large doses of the drug is dangerous, the Food and Drug Administration has said. The latest trial, of nearly 1,400 Covid-19 patients at risk of severe disease, is the largest to show that those who received ivermectin as a treatment didn’t fare better than those who received a placebo. “There was no indication that ivermectin is clinically useful,” said Edward Mills, one of the study’s lead researchers and a professor of health sciences at Canada’s McMaster University in Hamilton, Ontario. Dr. Mills on Friday plans to present the findings, which have been accepted for publication in a major peer-reviewed medical journal, at a public forum sponsored by the National Institutes of Health.
  14. nor Poolman. If it works, it works. Like putting Burrows with the Sedins. Obviously Quinn feels the most comfortable with Schenn. You also see Luke conversing with Quinn on the bench after plays, sharing experience. Experience that Hamonic and Poolman don't have. And on the ice, he provides that yin to Quinn's yang. We don't need two showy D men on the same line. Its all about compatibility. They both know their roles. Schenn doesn't have to keep up with Hughes on the ice. Hughes is so far up the ice so quickly after he gets the puck that he mostly gives and goes with the forwards. The bigger physical Schenn provides Quinn with the confidence to do what he does.
  15. I can totally see this loophole being used as long as it works. (which is up to when Vancouver decides to try it) Some may say its just about being unlucky with injuries at just the wrong time. And some its about being "lucky" with injuries at just the right time. I think its more like there are players who are playing with a nagging injury deferring surgery or treatment until just before the TD, under orders from their GM. How many times do you hear of players getting surgery on an injury, that must be fixed, but one with which they can still play with in the present, so they get it right when the season ends? The last game Landeskog played was against the Hurricanes and he played 18 minutes. I did not hear about any new on ice re-injury during that game. I think more teams will take advantage of this. If one of your highest cap hit players will eventually need some kind of surgery to correct a problem, they will move up his surgery to just before the TD, so they can use him as long as they can during the season first. And then use an LTIR on him to stack the team for the playoffs.
  16. Who started that again? From that article: "armed Russian-backed separatist groups seized government buildings throughout the Donbas, leading to armed conflict with the Ukrainian government forces.[31] While the initial protests were largely native expressions of discontent with the new Ukrainian government, Russia took advantage of them to launch a coordinated political and military campaign against Ukraine.[32] Russian citizens led the separatist movement in Donetsk from April until August 2014, and were supported by volunteers and materiel from Russia.[33][34][35] As the conflict escalated in May 2014, Russia employed a "hybrid approach", deploying a combination of disinformation, irregular fighters, regular Russian troops, and conventional military support to destabilize the Donbas" And please enlighten us all on where in this article it says anything about "The Ukrainian government has been killing its own citizens". Other than the ones that take Russian money and equipment, and fire on Ukraine's military, and chose to be traitors to the democratically elected government of the country they live in. Let me guess, if the US decides that the northern part of BCs coast that they stole from us for a pittance, is not enough, and they decide to take the southern coast as well, as long as they find a group of US born property owners in that part of BC, of which there are plenty, many with dual citizenship, and they help the US battle our own armed forces.....you'd be critical of the Canadian and BC governments if they dared to retaliate? And OMG, maybe even hurt or kill an expat American/Canadian citizen living there who takes up arms against our own forces? I will say something positive, you chose a great user name
  17. I agree. They battled valiantly. Even though they did allow Tampa to dictate the game early. The only problem now of course is that moral victories do nothing for us. Criminal that the goal was waved off because of a whistle happy ref. There should be a rule that the league can phone down to "correct" an early whistle. Not for other situations, but on a goal scored, where its clear that the only reason the whistle was blown, just before a puck goes in, was because the ref lost sight......not because the puck didn't cross the line, or the net was knocked off, or a player covered the puck with his hand, or any other number of reasons.
  18. I also blame the loss on the stupid fans. But because of the early BTII chant.
  19. I too was optimistic at the start of the season. And I had much the same journey as you did on the coaching as the losses piled up. I was optimistic for a few reasons. The shedding of three dead weights. Adding Garland, and OEL (who I saw as a replacement for Edler). The projected improvement of Hogz and Podz. New players like Dickenson, Poolman were promising talents. And everyone was talking about the angry elf. I was also counting on Pettersson to even be better than he was last season, for the whole season. As well as Hughes. I was counting on Sutter as a stable third line center to fill that spot. I thought that it was probably JBs most successful off season. Take that any way you like. But in a lot of ways, the team BETTER have improved after JB pushed the rest of his chips in. Forget about the future. My posts then basically said that I thought we could have success this season for the reasons above. But lets not kid ourselves, JB was basically kicking the can down the road. Even if we had a good year. Almost any GM in the league can put together a decent enough team, for one season, if they take on a poison pill contract like OELs, Sign established NHL FAs over developing your own picks. And spending right up to the cap limit. My take was that the problems JB was setting the team up for the future, may have a way of working out...if there was success on the ice. Players would be overrated vs underrated ie. trade value for one. As well I was just stoked to see the new additions, and not to have to watch the same miserable group as the season before including our empty net specialist. Even as I turned a blind eye to pragmatism of carrying the future Coyotes for just one more season....I still contend that the OEL contract will be increasingly ragged on as it ages, and a huge cap disadvantage in building a complete team in the next 5 seasons. And my logical Vulcan mind (three generations removed) tells me one more year of the three amigos would have been ugly to watch, but probably the shrewdest move for the future. I was prepared to live in the moment last October. "day to day" as someone once said. Deal with the teams problems, like how we were ever going to improve our D, or restock the farm to keep any success going, or be able to keep all the rest of our core together, for another time. I'm a born procrastinator. But all that went out the window with the Travis....ty of a start. Re-signing Green was a mistake. But re-signing Benning was a worse one. The criticism of JB had almost zero to do with TG, other than that re-signing. Its not a Green vs. Benning. It was both of them for different reasons. For JB it was stemming from a build up of his seven season record, and post season record of bad signings. Did we ever have a season we were not paying some kind of recapture penalty even on top of Lu's? The depleted prospect pool. The depleted draft picks. The failed gambles and bad pro-scouting. The overpayments. The lack of communication with valued stalwarts. The loss for nothing of valuable assets. The two pony show of him and Weisbrod. The general delusion about where this team was actually at and his defining what "insanity" was each off season. But now, after I said all that, I am back to where I was at the start of the season.....plus a new coach and front office. That is optimistic about most of the players we have as a group. I'm back to giving JB props for scraping together this good of a roster, considering what he had to work with even if it is incomplete and unsustainable the way it is built. But as I said, almost any GM, if he trades away enough high picks and prospects, and overpays enough on FAs, and takes on a poison pill contract like OELs in order to clean up past mistakes and add a scoring winger, should be able to ice a decent team for one season. A team that may squeak into the playoffs. JB had a very short sighted vision. But as I said then, success breeds success. And a successful team, even with built in future headaches for the new GM to wiggle out of, will have more value to use, either to keep and build on, or as trade bait. I am counting on our new front office to be able to navigate the future land mines JB left for them in the coming years. I am just happy that JB and Weisbrod are not the ones to deal with their own mess.
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