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Those legitimate reasons would be medical in nature. Like something a doctor could fill out a form of some kind. Like a medical exemption you can say. Then those people can get regular covid tests and wear masks like the refusers, except maybe the legit ones shouldn't have to pay. The anti-vaxxers, pay, pay, pay.
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The delta variant was first detected last December in India. So it came about prior to mass vaccination. Check mate. https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/5-things-to-know-delta-variant-covid
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I'll repost the charts that came with that announcement. The only fully vaccinated cases were on the elderly side of the scale.
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For some time various fields in Canada required testing for things like TB in order to get hired. Others required vaccinations (military members get all kinds of shots). In a number of healthcare fields, it was get a flu shot or wear masks/work in a different unit during flu season. Healthcare restrictions were a thing prior to this pandemic. If you think restrictions are not coming, you are living in la la land. I could easily see the choice being get vaccinated or you will wear a mask/work in a different capacity/regular covid test that you may need to pay for.
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All this talk about vaccine mandates. Moderna is still submitting data so full approval will be later. J&J plans to apply later this year. Once vaccines are fully approved, vaccine mandates in the US will ramp up. Tick Tock anti-vaxxers https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/03/us/politics/pfizer-vaccine-approval.html?referringSource=articleShare F.D.A. Aims to Give Final Approval to Pfizer Vaccine by Early Next Month The Food and Drug Administration’s move is expected to kick off more vaccination mandates for hospital workers, college students and federal troops.
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Some people just don't get it. The overwhelming majority of deaths and hospitalizations are people who aren't vaccinated.
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Least studied my posterior. Over 43000 people participated in Phase 3 trials that started last year. Millions received shots last December and the second doses in January ish making it 6 months that they were fully vaccinated. https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-conclude-phase-3-study-covid-19-vaccine Do tell us when these side effects are supposed to kick in. Care to provide any sources. I think this is you on the right.
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That quick math is really crushing. So many unnecessary deaths and hospitalizations that we taxpayers are going to pay for in some way. But MuH FrEeDoM!!!!!!!!! Freedom of being a cautionary tale for future generations.
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I'm pretty sure that a pandemic is a situation where the emergencies act applies. Definitely is legislation that was passed decades ago that allows temporary measures. https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/e-4.5/page-1.html
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Abstract Anti-intellectualism (the generalized distrust of experts and intellectuals) is an important concept in explaining the public’s engagement with advice from scientists and experts. We ask whether it has shaped the mass public’s response to coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). We provide evidence of a consistent connection between anti-intellectualism and COVID-19 risk perceptions, social distancing, mask usage, misperceptions and information acquisition using a representative survey of 27,615 Canadians conducted from March to July 2020. We exploit a panel component of our design (N = 4,910) to strongly link anti-intellectualism and within-respondent change in mask usage. Finally, we provide experimental evidence of anti-intellectualism’s importance in information search behaviour with two conjoint studies (N ~ 2,500) that show that preferences for COVID-19 news and COVID-19 information from experts dissipate among respondents with higher levels of anti-intellectual sentiment. Anti-intellectualism poses a fundamental challenge in maintaining and increasing public compliance with expert-guided COVID-19 health directives. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41562-021-01112-w Anti-intellectualism and the mass public’s response to the COVID-19 pandemic
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https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2021-07-24/fauci-theres-no-way-the-coronavirus-was-made-with-u-s-research-funds-heres-why Fauci: ‘There’s no way’ the coronavirus was made with U.S. research funds. Here’s why
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Overblown. When multiple jurisdictions reported that more people died in less than a year than died from the flu in the past decade? Am I missing something? And why exactly are people being fear mongered into submission? For what gain? By who? Or will I have to do my own research even though you've obviously done the research? Again, bringing up the Spanish flu and the Black Death and comparing them to this pandemic isn't a valid point. Science, medicine are miles ahead.
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Why this? What are your primary sources for this? You realize that the majority of antivaxx bs on social media can be traced to a dozen accounts. https://www.npr.org/2021/05/13/996570855/disinformation-dozen-test-facebooks-twitters-ability-to-curb-vaccine-hoaxes As for your bit about the Spanish flu and the Black Death, what could possibly be the difference between then and now? Science? Modern medicine? Vaccines? Really, we're in the same boat (obviously sarcasm for that last sentence).
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I'll add this. It's just a choice after all. https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/unvaccinated-albertans-are-majority-of-covid-19-cases-hospitalizations-deaths-hinshaw-1.5520459 Unvaccinated Albertans are majority of COVID-19 cases, hospitalizations, deaths: Hinshaw
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I'll fix the last line for ya: if you are unvaccinated and are still acting like this virus is no big deal, that is your &^@#ing problem. Stay the &^@# home and leave people alone. That is the problem. We have far too many a-holes who are walking around like this virus is no big deal. Like their "choices" have no consequences. That their simple "choice" won't affect others. Herd immunity is a thing, and it requires all who can get vaccinated, do get vaccinated. That means the anti-vaxx morons as well. By all means necessary.
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I'm wondering if the NHL will do something similar as the schedule is kinda compressed due to the inclusion of an Olympic break. I wonder if teams would be able to suspend such players. Last thing we need is another Canucks outbreak to happen when vaccines will be readily available by training camp.
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I'd love to see what our numbers here in BC are like. Probably like the Texas numbers. https://www.texastribune.org/2021/07/21/coronavirus-texas-vaccinated-deaths/ Texas has seen nearly 9,000 COVID-19 deaths since February. All but 43 were unvaccinated people. Preliminary data shows 99.5% of COVID-related deaths in Texas were among unvaccinated people, according to the Department of State Health Services.
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Especially when there are people who are begging to get theirs (can't due to availability) or people who cannot (can't due to actual medical conditions or children under 12) and these morons are like: Nope, can't do it because some jagoff in a YouTube video that is 2 hours long said a thing and doesn't provide a primary source for the thing. When asked to provide the source, these morons won't because they shouldn't have to do the research for you even though they claim they did the research.
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This whole comparison people make with the flu needs to stop. It is BS. Here are two reasons why this comparison to the flu is BS: More people died in less than one year from Covid than the flu killed in a decade. Numerous jurisdictions reported this (BC, Alberta, even Alabama). There is also the issue with long-covid. We still do not understand the long-term ramifications of covid infection on people's health yet we do have an understanding with regards to the flu.
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With the majority of deaths and infections occurring in the unvaccinated, I'd rather limit my exposure to that group in order to prevent passing the rona on to someone in my life who is immunocompromised or who cannot get the shot yet (children under 12 for one).