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  1. 3 years at this cap is a long time, I'm sure he's going to explode at some point but I doubt it's as a Canuck. 6.6M is just far too much for what he brings, which is bad defence and just 60pts. Combine that to Garland's 5M 40 point pace and we're paying 11.6M for 100pts of production. Meanwhile Petey is going to score a bit more and is on a 7M cap hit. Meanwhile Miller is on pace for a good 70 points and makes 8M I know it's not that simple but it doesn't take long to look across the roster to see so many guys getting overpaid for what they do.
  2. Exactly, good coaches but we basically have the same roster since Green's time so not expecting much of a difference.
  3. Some rumours out there saying Toronto have a deal already done with us. I bet it's Schenn for a 2nd.
  4. Good for a 22G 50P pace, plays with speed, grit and good on the PK (well on other teams anyway). Pretty successful 1st year at 5M. Garland gets the same money and scores less, Boeser gets 1.5M more and scores 10pts more (pace).
  5. Absolutely, 14M in dead cap is insane, and we think JB did a bad job... Nuts that they have so much dead cap and are 1 point out of a playoff spot with 2 games in hand though. Top players really over-performing, their team defence has been solid.
  6. I think this fiasco is really going to set Vancouver as a destination back a bit. UFA might be quite tricky next season, who would want to come play in Vancouver after we treated one of the best humans in hockey so badly? We're going to have to start winning again properly and get a playoff-worthy team before we get signing rights for anyone.
  7. Not sure about this, as nice as it sounds, if we retain on anyone we have to replace them and their cap hit basically has to be less than the current player + the retained amount. For example, Myers at 6M for 2 years. If we trade him to say Toronto and retain 2M, we need a top-4 RD now who can play 20+ minutes and costs us less than 4M. That's not happening, we're struggling as it is to fill that hole. Same for say Garland at 5M for another fair few years, we could retain 2M on his deal but then need a 15-20 goal scorer at just 3M which will be hard to come by.
  8. If they lock him down to 7.75M you take it and run. Everyone thought Kuzmenko would get 6+ and here we are. Must just be playing chicken until the deadline. Even then though, if they somehow re-sign Bo we're going to have to shift a LOT of cap. Tack that on and we're looking at 9M in raises. Tack on 1.5M for Bear and we're 10.5M over the cap. We get 2.4M dead cap off the books, great, now we're 9M over the cap. Just getting rid of Miller would fix that problem but you have to take cap back in any trade like that, so Boeser + Garland would have to be in the mix. I'd happily move Miller and Boeser, take some cap back (Dumba or Severson and a pick/prospect?) if it means we keep the rest of the gang together.
  9. You simply cannot have all your cake and eat it too, they go out and splash cash on wingers left right and center, and are about to lose a good center and still have no replacements on defence. Another winger signed - Kuzmenko to a 5.5M deal. I know he's been great, but look at management's spending and focus: 1) Miller to a monster 8M deal - now he's a winger, has been used as a center and we've played SO badly with him at C so often has to get protected by Bo. 2) Boeser on a 6.6M deal for a 20-30 goal scoring winger 3) Mikheyev out of the blue in free agency to a 5M deal 4) Kuzmenko was a freebie at 1M, now gets a 4M raise, on a 5.5M deal That's 26M next year on our top-6 wingers. Yikes. Meanwhile, Bo is going to have to be traded now so as it stands we've got Petey at 7M, then....uh...Lazar at 2C? Every other center is around 1M. Not to mention the lack of defence, don't get me started about that. Management have made tiny moves to try and fix the key issues on this roster - low risk low reward deals like that for Stillman, Bear and Studnicka. These guys are other team's scraps who weren't even on the roster. We just went out and took every team's healthy scratch and threw them into the lineup like a charity home. Meanwhile, we splash cash on our wingers. They haven't been bad at all, they're just the wrong place to be spending money. Focussing on the least important aspect of the game - wingers, and ignoring the two most important areas - center depth and defence. Even if we get a center and defenceman back for Bo, we're still in way over our heads because cap-wise someone's got to go. Honestly I'd flip all of Miller, Boeser and Garland, get some cap back and get some centers who can play a two-way game and some defenders.
  10. Also I think he knows he needs to do it consistently, it's only been half a season so far. If he produces like this consistently for 2-3 years he is going to get PAID. If not, he's got 10M in the bank, not bad.
  11. If I could have it my way they'd all be gone, we lose 19-20M in cap space, resign Horvat to an 8M deal and the likely take back around 10M in cap/dump back plus a bunch of picks. Our team would be much better for it, maybe even have a top-4 defenceman to show for it. No way we can't find a team who wants some of those guys.
  12. Great deal, steal getting him under 6M, as bad as management have been, they're good at their cap management and haggling players down. I'm sure they'll get Bear back on a cheap deal too. With Bear, assuming he gets at least a 1M rise, thats 8M in rises next offseason and only 2.4M in dead cap and Bo's 5.5M coming off the books. We're still going to have to move cap. Lots of changes still needed. Of course flipping Miller would fix a lot of problems still... Regardless, 5.5M for Kuz, 5M for Mik and Petey at 7M is a great top line. Next year our 2nd line will probably be Boeser, Garland and Miller good for 19M, more than our top line and a lot worse. Then our 3rd line of (enter 3C here), Hoglander and...Podkolzin? Probably will cost us 4M. Finally a 4th line of 3M in total.
  13. I'm all for 2 defencemen like 5-10 years ago. Teams have gone for the 1-3-1 setup and it's so predictable especially because our point man never shoots. We need to mix it up and have some point shots and a better screen. Bo can tip with the best of them and OEL's shot is so under-rated and under-utilised, not just at scoring but getting through screens for tips. Have Petey on one wing, Miller on the other and work higher up rather than low down. The bumper pass to Bo isn't there at all anymore, teams just collapse down on us easily. Plus having Hughes and OEL on the points can sometimes slowly rotate and have Hughes suddenly controlling the puck on the half boards, Miller at the offensive line/by the net and try the bumper pass play from there. Teams have gone all-in with forwards to try and pass it around better down low but we have such a great shooter in OEL and great passer and skater in Hughes, we should use them more and surprise teams. Can still feed Petey for a one timer near the dot too.
  14. Would be nice if every team did that chant, FA won't have it and will fire management. Whether it's the right move or not it'd be poetic justice.
  15. Teams aren't going to give us their best prospects or young players, they'll give us scraps, especially no team in the playoffs. Then again a contender's 1st is basically a 2nd rounder. Snagging a team's best prospect and 1st would be enough for me. One of those slick Detroit defencemen (Edvinsson or Walinder) and their 1st thanks, will take whatever cap dump they want.
  16. When the NHL sees how much of a gong show is the Canucks are with Rick, he'll get a job hire. He had them well over .500 during his tenure over a year which will be a lot better than Green or Tocchet will manage so I'm sure teams will see that and pounce.
  17. Management keep taking flyers on cheap alternatives and this is what happens. We get lucky at the start then get burned. Same has gone for guys like Studnicka, Stillman and Bear. Only one of them has really shaken off the healthy-scratch worthiness of their former team (Bear) and proven he's a decent NHLer. As for the rest, I'm not yet convinced. Far too many projects and not enough quality on this team.
  18. 0/10 on the PP since BB left, our one bright spot is now gone too
  19. Agreed, but I'd rather Horvat at 8M, Miller gone and his 8M split across a top-4 defenceman (5-6M) and 3C (2-3M). That would have been so perfect. Petey is soon to be a 9-10M guy so that's just too much tied up in 3 forwards, especially if Miller is just a winger. Too much like the top heavy Leafs. It is another tactic - roll 3 super centers who compete with some of the best center depth in the league (Petey as a 100pt guy, Bo a 50-60 scoring 2C and Miller who's on pace for 70-80pts as the technical 3C) and just throw cheap wingers/AHLers/ELCs on their wing.
  20. I'll believe it when I see it, we were supposed to get one in a trade from Miller, the Boeser, then the offseason...
  21. Watch the Canucks destroy Seattle on the road at the end of a back to back and start a conversation. Honestly if they even get back to .500 it'll be impressive. 5-0 Canucks
  22. Shame, Tocchet was gona give him a tonne of minutes and probably elevate him up the lineup but he's surely done now for a while.
  23. Agree, think he's a personable guy in a bad situation, his time in TV will have prepared him well for this. In all honesty coaching wise it's hard to say so early how things will go but I like putting 4th line grinders up with our skilled guys. A bit like chemistry lines on NHL games, a grinder always seems to play well with a playmaker and shooter and that's exactly how we scored our big goals tonight. Also like the fact he specifically said he doesn't like playing guys like Hughes 25+ minutes which was one of the few things I disliked about Bruce. I can just tell this team is going to do something rediculous like go 20-10-5 and miss the playoffs by a whisker and get a 15th overall pick.
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