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  1. What, in your opinion, is my wrong? IMO you're wrong.
  2. IMO The only "small" players we should be considering at #6 before Ritchie are Reinhart and Bennett.
  3. I am not talking about results for the team. I am saying Tortorella is the wrong coach for the Canucks. Regardless of the team's performance this year or any year, Tortorella is a bad coach. He is shallow, ignorant, self-centred, abusive, disrespectful, and liable to erupt verbally and physically at any time. I know, people are going to question this, so here is some boring detail: Shallow: insufficient consideration of others, including his boss GMMG who is absolutely cerebral in comparison. "I like dogs." Big deal; we all do. Ignorant: admitted he knew nothing about the team, other teams in the conference, and did not bother to learn. Self-centered: everything is about Torts, all about him, what he did and did not do, where he was wrong, where he takes responsibility, whether your cellphone rings during his interview. Abusive: swearing, embarrassing, screaming at professional hockey players in front of their teammates, fans, and TV; who knows how bad it got out of view? Disrespectful: as above but also calling the core "old and stale", re Edler: "I have to learn this guy", Gillis was a bad GM, talking down to female reporters, nobody understands anything like Torts does, etc.
  4. It is not about blaming everything on one man. It is about having the best coach we can get for the team. It is about Torts being nowhere near the best coach we can get for the team. It is about firing this wrong coach before he causes any more damage.
  5. I may not have read all your content on Torts' position with the team, but the one I remember thinking had some validity was something like, "he's still here so he might be staying." This point made me think that you might be right but I am hoping it is only contractual (buyout and anniversary) or deferential (to the new GM). Why do you think Torts should stay on as head coach?
  6. Torts took responsibility for the team's poor performance this year = Torts should be retained and given another chance? Uh, no. By his own admission, he was responsible for the team's poor performance this year = Torts is fired! Torts helped young players like Kassian develop into better players? Again, no. Kassian was developing just fine actually and Torts underused him, if anything. Watching Torts crush Jensen, after his fine play in the AHL and the first 2 games with the Canucks, putting him on the 4th line, proves he does not know how to properly develop our young talent. We cannot afford to let him further this destructive behaviour with the prospects we hope will make it up to the big club this year. Torts gives a fun press conference and is quite talented deflecting his poor performance onto Mike Gillis' management. He says neat things that sound like he was the right coach but the results show that he was not. All this stale core, didn't have depth, Gillis didn't provide the right players talk is just trying to cover his butt. Even if it is true, the core and the prospects were there when Torts was hired. He did not do even the least amount of research into the team nor the other teams in the conference, and was completely unprepared to fulfill the obligations of head coach. Torts should be thankful he got paid. He should receive the buyout amount stipulated in his contract, take the money, and run. This may happen on June 25th. Who here thinks Torts will be snapped up by another NHL team as soon as he is released from Vancouver?
  7. Informal poll within a poll, nice. I am excited to have a 6th overall pick and will always get behind any player who becomes Canuck property and trust management will make a good choice. There have been some tough times over the years watching the team make their first pick. Michel Petit, I think it was, came out on the stage on crutches with both knees in casts. And when Nonis & Co called out Patrick White, I was dumbfounded. Probably the most difficult pick to cheer for or even to follow. Thank goodness for Mike Gillis, we got something for him.
  8. Reinhart and Bennett are more likely the most skilled forwards in this draft.
  9. Your lowest pick was 22nd - I seriously doubt either Ritchie or Virtanen is still around at 22nd.
  10. If we could get Reinhart that would be almost like winning the draft lottery (but without a shot at Ekblad). And if Ritchie is taken before we get to pick, it would be really nice to add Virtanen somehow (most suggest a Kesler trade for about a 10th - Ottawa's from Anaheim). That would add 2 local prospects, one a possibly-1st line centre and the other a young power winger. How high a pick would we need to get Virtanen? Who has those picks?
  11. How's that Kool-Aid taste? All of our young players played well because they were good acquisitions and showed their potential. Jensen is a particularly bad example for you to use because he was playing great before Torts go a hold of him; it took a couple games but then Jensen was broken, confused, and on the 4th line. There is no "get over 2011", that was just a red herring Torts threw out there to deflect criticism of his woeful performance. Torts was grasping at straws trying to frame his performance in a golden halo where all we needed was more of Torts and more of his undefined system. Seriously, he apologized for everything and admitted it was all his fault (before he backtracked into covering his butt). If everything went wrong and it was all his fault, why would anyone want him back? That's enough for me; as is swearing at players on the bench. He will not be able to change; he couldn't even get through that interview without his true nature surfacing like scum on a settling pond. I hope the only reason he is still hanging around like a bad smell is because Linden wants to give his new GM the opportunity to make the changes he wants to make. The other reason I can think of is that he was hired approximately June 25th, 2013 and the options to terminate his contract may be more favourable on the anniversary of the hire.
  12. If you add Ritchie, Nylander, Ehlers, Virtanen, and say Kapanen to the top 5, who do you think in this top 10 would be the most likely to play in the NHL the soonest? I think Ekblad, Reinhart, Bennett, and Ritchie (in no particular order) due to their size, Ekblad and Ritchie, and due to their talent/maturity, Reinhart and Bennett. One more reason to take Ritchie at 6th overall; we may get to use the player in the lineup a year or two or even three before most of the others.
  13. There is no box unchecked for Ritchie. He is the complete package. The only thing he isn't is small. (Still don't know why some of you think a player has to be small to be good. Didn't like Mario? Jagr?) If you watch any of the playoffs this year, you must conclude that talent with size and toughness is the order of the day. I think if any of the little guys had a better chance of going early in the draft, they would be ranked in the top 6 way more often than just once. That is, it seems like only one pundit has Nylander in the top 6, only one has Ehlers in the top 6, et cetera. If there was a better chance that these guys would develop into a player worthy of a high pick, more pundits would have them ranked top 6 than just once here or there. When most posters here finish their analysis, they want to have more picks! That's because they still want to pick these little guys but cannot reasonably argue to pass up on a universally highly-rated complete player like Ritchie. When I think of having more picks, I wish there were more than one Ritchie! Or I start to look at others like Virtanen that bring the talent with the power and size. There is no basis to the "we already have Kassian, or Sestito, or whomever" argument; there is no doubt that the Canucks have fallen behind in the trend to large teams. I'm glad we have Sestito, Kassian, and all the other young players and prospects with good size but we still need more and we will continue to need more and more, and for more than just this year. There are so many teams with huge players coming in waves, line after line, the playoffs are such a physical grind, injuries and suspensions take players out, and you need a full complement of this type of player to succeed. The team can support a couple smurfs but not before we have the physicality to protect them. If we have a first or second overall pick, and some little guy projects to be the next great little guy, then we can take him. But we cannot waste high draft picks on longshots until we're fully bulked up. Merci, you are not alone.
  14. Yeah, he's just spewing whatever comes into his Styrofoam-filled head. His TV interview was about 4 times as long as his exit interview with TL; what does that say to you Torts-Keepers? He reminds me of crack heads. He gets that vacant but rabid look in his eyes and just starts to rant. Just keeps talking regardless of the facts or reason or what he has already said. Just saying anything that gets him to that next hit. Take your money and run Torts. Edit: punctuation
  15. Wrong again. Henrik skated past everyone all alone crossing the blue line and passed the puck into the empty corner. Then he skated to the corner and looked for someone to pass it out to. The only reason he would play like this is because Nut Bag told them to play this way. Screaming F-Bombs at players to play his way - like idiots.
  16. +1 (and the expression is tunnel vision) Torts is the one getting old. He has had his mind made up for a long, long time. He admitted the only reason they won the Cup was "we didn't know what we were doing". But once they won, he wasn't going to change anything. He refuses to learn our players, players in the west, heck he even said he doesn't know the Rangers! Guy's a goof! Can't wait for TL to name our new GM and then Torts is Ta Ta!
  17. lol at posts suggesting a reason to keep Torts is that he owned up or took responsibility. He took responsibility because he was a screw up! And a disrespectful ignorant one at that.
  18. Yeah, I know what you mean. A lot of the old guard from Gordie on down have bemoaned the lack of respect the players have for each other, both in hitting and fighting. I did not mean that someone will "get him" (to quote Torts); just more that everyone's opinion of Lucic has to be lower now that he is a repeat offender with an inordinate amount of interest in other men's genitalia. For the fighters, some still keep the code, like not continuing when an opponent has fallen and is unable to defend himself, but if Lucic is laying there defenseless, I can see some follow through occurring which other fighters might have been spared. MMA style fighting, with the ground and pound type of assault, has changed the way a lot of younger people and players think and act in these situations. The grappling I love, beautiful self-defense and martial artistry. Hammering a senseless, almost unconscious athlete while his head is on the ground is not. It's not sport; it's not sportsmanship; it is thuggish recreation of criminality. Sneaking up behind someone and scooping their nuts out is heinous behaviour. Ban Lucic. Let the cry be heard throughout the land: "Barbaric! Barbaric! Barbaric!"
  19. Yeah Torts could coach in the playoffs. Torts could beat that $25,000 nut fine. Torts could get a 20 game suspension and then he would be more useful by his absence.
  20. From.The.Point asked if any of the players discussed as possible Canuck first round draft picks could step in right away. I know you are tired of hearing about him but, Ritchie may be able to do that. He has the size, strength, speed, and toughness to hold his own albeit in a limited role, imo. I can envision a fourth line like Sestito Matthias and Ritchie. Sometimes up on the third with Higgins and Richardson, and occasionally powering up the second line with Booth and Kesler. And everybody gets sometime with the twins as we continue the search for that long sought-after RW for the Sedins? ********************** By the way, Virtanen has extra value in the ratings because he is only 17, but the consensus is that he will probably take 2 or 3 years before he is ready for the Bigs. Ritchie will most likely be ready sooner if not right away, so Virtanen's lower age advantage is countered by the shorter time it will probably take to get Ritchie into service. *********************** Thanks for your opinions on Draisaitl over Ritchie and Dal Colle over Ritchie. Who would you pick if both Draisaitl and Dal Colle were available at our #6 pick? *********************** Also, does anyone think Draisaitl, being from Germany, is in any way a detrimental thing to be accounted for between he and Dal Colle? For example, can young European players have the same over-the-top, almost-insane, win-the-Cup-at-all-costs, "Next goal wins the Stanley Cup" attitude Canadians grew up with? Is there an element, like with Ehrhoff staying out of post-whistle scrums in our SCF vs Boston, where they do not "get it"? Especially as the players are not paid (well, not as much) for games in the playoffs, where the going gets extremely tough, where perhaps they are not as focused on the big prize as Canadian players who have known the Stanley Cup as Hockey's Holy Grail all their lives and longed to score that GWG in overtime that wins the Cup? Players that are more in it for the money might underperform when more is expected of them for far less pay. If this over-arching desire to win the Cup at all costs can be instilled in a foreign player, how long might it take, and how would one go about it?
  21. It was a head shot! (Just the little head though.) Seriously, Lucic does the ice-cream scoop on this one, you know, where your stick blade gets under the jock and scrapes from one side to the other, scooping out the goodies. The previous one we saw on video was more the tip of the blade right up the rectum which produces it's own weird anguish. It is almost ok when a little "chicken" guy has been harassed by some brute and cannot find another way to even the score. But when a tough player and good fighter like Milan resorts to this type of thing, it is shameful and cowardly. Like it or not, there is still a code, or an unwritten but generally understood set of rules of conduct, somewhat like olden chivalry, that Lucic has broken. The league continues its light treatment of Bruins misbehaviour but the rest of the players have taken notice of these incidents and will treat Milan accordingly. He lost a lot of respect from his peers with these actions.
  22. A lot of posters are concerned with whether Torts got the best out of the players or whether he is right for the team or the team is right for him, etc. Does anybody think the players would, or did, play in any way that might have been any sort of attempt to have Torts fired or retained? With so many players having their worst season, in your opinion, is there any way that anyone intentionally under-performed so that it would reflect poorly on the coach? Did any players, in your opinion, exceed expectations perhaps trying to back up his coach and help Torts keep his job? Do you think the players would act like this? Would they collude to try something like this?
  23. Perhaps a team before us believes, for example that Dal Colle might be over-rated because of his tremendous linemates. Do you take Ritchie over Dal Colle if Dal Colle slips and both are available at #6?
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