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  1. Tanti never had a fifty goal season outside of junior. He was a pretty consistent 40 goal guy. Fraser was a consistent 25 goal guy who won more fights with one punch than any Canuck I can remember. Still a good trade for the Canucks, though. The next year they picked up a guy by the name of Cam Neely that was pretty tough too. Now that one was an awful trade!
  2. WD had the Sedins when they were still legitimate first line players on a middling team. He also had 12 players who scored 10 or more goals, and Vrbata had 31. It was a season almost without injury to key players - something that hasn't happened since. WD was a one trick pony as a coach, and once the league had seen him for a year, he had nothing left to show, and as an indicator of that, his numbers on special teams fell through the floor.
  3. Who says Gudbranson never ever didn't get what he wanted? As a high first round pick, it was pretty much handed to him on a platter, and when the Canucks gave up so much for him, they shoved an apple in his mouth and put even more garnish on the platter - the problem is that was like the proverbial Leipsic on a sow. I think Gudbranson is still waiting to make his first pass out of our zone that doesn't come back for a face off
  4. Sure, I get it. You’re telling me he was better than Tryamkin in the NHL. No? Oh, you’re not? A lot of awards get handed out because you play on a better team, or a team that goes further in the playoffs - both of which Larson did. Is he a better player? Not a chance in hell. By the end of his NHL season, Tryamkin was a good NHLDefender, Larson never was. As to whether Tryamkin improved, the measure is what he did in the KHL both before and after his NHL stint, he had more than twice as many points and a a much improved +/- and much higher average ice time. There is no similar comparison for Larson. Larson looked fine when nobody was hitting him, Tryamkin looked better the rough it got. Larson was a good European player, but just couldn’t make it when he was at risk of serious contact.
  5. Fair enough, the proof will be if he comes back. The proof about Gudbranson will be if he ever earns what he is being paid. I’d love to be wrong, D’s can take a long time to get it, but it’s been seven years now and he still hasn’t got it. One thing he should do is stop fighting, he’s not good at it, and he just gets hurt when he engages in it. Right now, he needs to prove that there is a lot more to his game, because as it stands Tryamkin was better at the rough stuff than him, too. i’d like to see Gudbranson earn his money, and I’m pretty sure you’d like to See Tryamkin earning his as a Canuck. It would be quite the thing for us both to get our wishes. It would be nice to have a beer over it some day when they are both playing in the playoffs.
  6. You don’t get the point. What the data shows is that Tryamkin performed at a certain level in the KHL, then goes to the NHL, then returns to the KHL and performs more than twice as well as he did before he came to the NHL. The comparison is apples to apples - KHL to KHL with a year of NHL development in between. There is no basis for a step backward in development unless you believe that vast improvement is going backwards. Again, the comparison is KHL to KHL, get it? Tryamkin’s performance is being measured by the same yardstick - the measurement is commensurate and shows vast improvement.
  7. If you want to talk poor coverage, you better take a look at your guy, Gudbranson, who after SEVEN years NHL experience, is still awful in his own zone, to which you have to add that his best outlet pass is icing, and for whom it is far better that he leave the attacking zone rather than be in it lest he be left standing at the blue line when the opposing team breaks out past him. Another factor is that staying healthy is a SKILL, one which he has yet to master, at least while he has been in Vancouver - he has managed to play in only half the games for which he is eligible to play. As for Tryamkin having “had great potential”, by the end of the year showed a lot more than mere potential - a ‘potential’ that he did nothing but improve in Russia. How does one prove that? Well, we have Tryamkin’s record from before he came to Vancouver, and after he returned to Yekaterinburg: http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=159881 The record is clear that he had a vast improvement as playing on the same team and in the very same league. Yes, we can objectively measure his improvement.
  8. Because I have seen him play in the NHL as a rookie and seen his improvement. Then there is his enormous improvement in the KHL after that. By the end of his first year in Vancouver he was one of our top four defencemen, and a helluva lot better than Gudbranson even then. Of course that might be damning with faint praise. I believe what my eyes tell me, not what other people say. How do you think people knew McDavid was a great player before he ever played an NHL game? I’m not saying Tryamkin is McDavid, but the principle is the same.
  9. I watched most of Utica’s games last year, and he’s no Gretzky or Oates, if that is the standard of playmaker, but there is more than one way to make plays that end up with the puck in the net. One way is taking pucks to the net and eliminating defencemen - the garbage that gets left in such a player’s wake is also a play by intention. And he also passes the puck. The real struggle for McEwan last year was getting the first few goals.
  10. Don't know why you say he's "Not a playmaker at all." He had 10 goals and 23 assists last season, his first in the AHL. That's more than twice as many assists as goals. Even in junior he had more assists than goals.
  11. Goldy played well at the end of last year - a much more complete game after some seasoning with Cull. Dahlin, Jasek, Lind, and Gadjovich still may need that and still have to prove something to the Canuck coaches. There is another player that could be creating a lot a pressure for a spot - Gaudette - and after a Hobey Baker and managing to impress Greene with his complete game, may also be fighting for a spot - this kid is no slouch, he too might be a top six player - and led all college players in PP goals, as I recall this past year.
  12. This will be part of also having a good young defence in Utica apprenticing for the NHL. It gives a better future and great depth in the present.
  13. Forsling had a LOT of offenceto him, not sure that Utunen does, but a very promising pick for the fifth round.
  14. He did alright for Sweden, but then he was playing with a better defence.
  15. Waive Ericksson, he is unlikely to be taken. If he is, yahoo! Don't waive a young guy with promise, like Leipsic - we are building team, not creating a retirement home for superannuated vets. Heck, waive Gagner, too, if we can't trade him for a bag of pucks or a roll of tape or an old jock strap.
  16. He was so good they traded him. And let's see if he was third best D in the playoffs: 1: He was not better than Ekblad 2: Definitely not better than Petrovic or Kulikov, who each had 4 points in 6 games - each also +4 3: Maybe better than Campbell 4: Okay, so that leaves him maybe better than a burnout about ready to retire... maybe. 5; Generousy, we could say he was better than the seventh defenseman 6: Then he got traded to a defense that couldn't cover for him and he looked like exactly what he is. 7: But you might say he was good in the locker room... too bad we need guys who are good on the ice. And, by the way, Florida had 6 playoff games. For the most part, staying healthy is a skill, not an accident. It is a skill, among many, that Gudbranson does not possess. "Really think canucks would trade McCann and picks for a nobody????" This does not bolster your argument. Benning gave up McCann (a first round pick), a second, and a fourth. If you think we could get a even a second for him now, I want some of what you're smoking. Benning has a spotty record of trading our young players: Forsling comes to mind, and if McCann continues to improve, this trade, too, will look like disaster. No sense talking to you...Very narrow minded...
  17. What the heck good is an NHL defenceman whose only qualification is that he spends half his time injured? Gudbranson is NOT an established defenceman, he barely makes the worst NHL team, averaged over the past three years, - how the heck is that 'established'? Tryamkin far outplayed Gudbranson in every respect - as a 20 year old rookie in his first year in the NHL, in a foreign country, not speaking the language. He wanted to play more to develop his game - the KHL allowed him to play more than that idiot Desjardins. Secondly, his wife wanted to complete her education - which she has now done. If Tanev and Gudbanson were so desirable, there would be a lineup of teams with offers to take them off our team. There is not. Being unable to stay healthy, is not, as a hockey player, a desirable attribute on your resume. It's like, Joe Blow is a great worker - it's just that he never shows up to actually work. Of course there are other factors involved in the Canucks being unable to stay healthy: one is their schedule,t hat again this year, management and ownership has done nothing to address nor protest. Apparently this year, they have been gifted with their worst schedule ever. I remember that Brian Burke addressed this issue when he was here, and got some traction in getting a less onerous schedule. Being bellicose has its rewards.
  18. No mention of Jasek, who comes in and scores 7 points in 6 games in the AHL, nor of Tryamkin - who is still Canuck property and just 23.
  19. At least Tryamkin does’t injure himself every time he does something of a physical nature - Gudbranson’s next visit after each scalp is not the penalty box, it’s the ER.
  20. Actually, I’d rather have several hard-nosed guys that can play on the team. They will provide examples to Virtanen, Tryamkin, Gadjovich and others of how they are expected to play. Having a few guys, like Lind, Leipsic, and Gaudette that have an edge to them won’t hurt either. Archibald already has enough experience in the AHL to understand that. He is a proficient checker and penalty killer who throws in some offence and truculence to lay a legitimate claim to that role.
  21. Why would you condemn this young man to abysmal failure? Gudbranson? Surely, comparing to a guy so tough that he injures himself every time he ties his skates is just downright mean. What did Gunnarsson ever do to deserve such a comparison?
  22. Kevin Bieksa, Adam Gaudette, and Aucoin (still holds the Canucks record for goals by a defenceman with 24).
  23. It was a Newell Brown power play, and there was plenty of rotation, so it is quite conceivable that if Hutton got a shot on the PP unit that he could rotate into the Pettersson spot. But you are right in your observation that in college most of his goals in his big year were from that same spot on the ice. As I recall, even his first goal in Utica was from that spot (off the rush, though and full strength).
  24. Big drop off in production last year. With his age (28) and style of play, that is a big fat warning sign. Still, hope for th be best, I guess.
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