Ray_Cathode

It's going to be an interesting challenge for Canuck wingers to keep this guy out of the Vancouver lineup for the next few years. He reminds me so much of Burrows: not drafted, intelligent, motivated, will take on any role to make the team. Whoever is ahead of him on the depth charts better be well aware that he is coming to take their job.

Simashev and Reinbacher must be unbelievable to be better than this guy.

I wonder if that's an omen of some future year yet to come.

I love Hogs tenacity, speed, and skill... but I really dislike his total lack of discipline. He really adversely affected Abby with his entirely unnecessary penalties in the playoffs.

Yep, Bloom seems to be tailor-made for the kind of role that Tocchet wants his wingers to play.

Actually we are still dealing with the crap Benning left us... and we are dealing with the good stuff he never left us in our development system since he traded awa y so many draft slots... never mind the entirely effed up cap situation that present ownership is still trying to unravel. When we stop having to deal with the consequences of Benning's actions, that will be time to stop blaming Benning for the mess he left us.

Neither chickens nor eggs were included in the trade... unless they are to be named later.

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Whether he is or isn't a change in fortune will depend on the fit. Having another good guy on the draw for own zone faceoffs at key times in the game can be a big deal. With improved defense we may be in more one goal games where being able to roll out a strong defensive guy can matter.

Saw one the other day, apparently, he's now being treated for a neck injury now, not a concussion or post covid.

Considering that on the left side, after Hughes, the next guy on the depth chart was Wolanin, followed by Hirose, I'd say we needed left side help. On the right side we have Hronek, Myers, Juulsen, and probably Poolman (now that we have figured out that he has a neck problem not a concussion) - both of the new guys play both sides.

Strong defensive player, good on the draw - 53%.

I believe both our new D's play either side.

Kudryavtsev is bigger, stronger, and much more physical than Rathbone. It is going to be tough for D that are primarily offensive to earn a spot in Vancouver - so long as Hughes is here - especially on the left side. Rathbone is kind of a poor man’s version of Hughes - if he doesn’t find a spot here, he may find one elsewhere.

Getting lots of respect from his team.

Bains is not the shit disturber that Burrows was, but he doesn’t shy away from confrontation. Not too many players were as annoying as Burrows. Burrows did even struggle to get a job in the ECHL. He spent some time as a roller hockey player! He was a perfect example of how far you can get with intelligence, grit and determination. Those are three qualities that Bains shared - add to that that he was a WHL scoring champion.

That’s a biggy, up with Cam Neely, but neither of those strangled a team financially and cap wise. Losing a great player is bad, but devastatingly yourself financially is much, much worse. Benning’s bad financial deals were like a snowball rolling downhill, accumulating worse and worse consequences as he attempted to fix the previous problem and just spread out to encompass more areas. His terrible financial work caused to sacrifice draft picks and to lose the opportunity to re-sign players such as Toffoli (who was traded twice subsequently for first round picks), Tanev, Stetcher, or to get something, at least, for the loss of Markstrom.

Yeah, that’s the comparable I see for him. Undrafted late developer. Smart, smart player, great anticipation, very good vision - and being a guy with very good offensive talent, he also looks after his defensive responsibilities. He does enough good things well to find a spot in the show. So many young guys get drafted for their offence and think that’s how they will make the nhl. But practically speaking, if you can do the other stuff, so that they can bring you up to play on the third or fourth line, it really enhances your chance of making it. Other than Silovs or maybe Karlsson, I see him as the Abby player most likely to be called up, or perhaps even make the team this fall. I am really impressed with how smart and diligent this young man is.

If D Petey works out, and Woo works out, they could make the most physical D pairing since Pratt and Robitaile. Who, you ask? They were a Canucks D tandem before most of fans on this thread were born.

“This is the biggest ordinary course buyout in NHL history” That’s the cost when you have to make the worst trade in history to cover over for three awful contracts: Eriksson, Roussel, and Beagle.

We are paying him 19 mil instead of 27 mil to stop him from destroying our defence. Getting rid of Benning’s horrific mistakes costs tons of money and wasted years of no playoff hockey. First rule of business when in the midst of failure - stop the bleeding, then stop sending good money after bad. The secondary bonus is that other teams will stop regarding us as carrion - given a little time. So long as we were the only NHL team over the cap, all the other teams stopped regarding us as their next meal. When you HAVE to make a trade, nobody will throw you a lifeline. If we hold off for a while, other teams will stop looking at Vancouver as a team has to pay them to take assets off our hands, and start regarding us like other teams that have assets that might be traded for.

We could not afford to keep him, apart from the fact that he was an awful defenceman. So long as we were the only team over the cap, no-one was willing to throw Vancouver a lifeline - the rest of the predators in the league wanted to take advantage of Vancouver’s vulnerability. Management tried to trade Benning’s other overpaid mistakes: Myers, Garland, Etc., but there is no market for them when Vancouver is desperate. In the NHL if team’s can get something for nothing; they’ll take it. Now that Vancouver is under the cap, they will be in a position to gain some kind of return. To give OEL another year of being awful just condemns Vancouver to another year of misery. I presume that most fans want the Canucks to succeed, it appears that ownership and management are willing to part with 20 million bucks in order to do that - I’m sure that such a decision was made only because no other alternative was available.

Evidence for the position that one must be patient in developing D.

Here are the odd stretching coincidences that bring about conspiracy theories: 1 Only eastern teams win: 2016 Toronto 2017 New Jersey 2018 Buffalo 2019 New Jersey 2020 NY Rangers 2021 Buffalo 2022 Montreal 2023 Chicago 2 Four of the last eight winners are original six teams. 3 The two original six teams that have won a recent Stanley Cup, Boston and Detroit, have not won the top slot.