Oh we can be optimistic. His ceiling is high, but he's just nowhere near his ceiling yet. I think people believe he's this bulldog similar to Hoglander but his efforts aren't consistent enough with Hoglander's in my opinion. Hopefully I'm wrong, but he's definitely a player that can either be a great leader or check out when things aren't going well. People are also overrating his skills. He has raw talent but sometimes lacks the iq to go with his hands. He's gonna be a role player off the hop, he's not gonna be a saviour.
We just need to temper expectations so the kid can grow. Too many are hoping he's gonna dramatically change the organization off the hop. You're asking to be let down if that's your view point.