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So how does our fantasy league.

I knew this was coming. Remember Petey has stated he doesn't really want captaincy, regardless of motivation he's up front about it.

This guy has the feel he wants to be here and be a Canuck, not looking or waiting for greener pastures.

$hitsack and Price is what I call those two. No saying much when comparing the group within itself. These guys are basically full of it. The boys on CHEK school them daily.

Glad you printed this. Just had a read before logging on to the forum. Lets talk Jeff Patterson for a second here. Here's a quote with in the article. "Jeff Paterson caught some sweet footage of Andrei Kuzmenko looking like he’s in mid-season form. Unfortunately, I can’t say the same for Thatcher Demko:" Lets not even talk about Demko being mid season form. Jeff Patterson is one of the most negative local media people as in for years. Fine, he often has great points but one of the best attributes this guy has is throwing shade on even little successes. He is very good at pointing out the shortcomings of individuals or the team, the glass half empty side of things. It's his career. Find that little negative gem and spew it out. It's not even training camp and he's stating Demko isn't in mid season form. For starters I'm sure Demko is just fine and won't be going Gump Worsley at an informal skate, at least I hope he won't be. Here's an interesting connected read After looking into Jeff Patterson I see I'm not the only one not impressed by this guy's work. Here we have it again. Another person that likely has played little organized sports, beyond high school and beer league. I know there's a few on this forum that disagree but I think there's a clear advantage to playing the sport you cover at a high level. Jeff Patterson has to rely on stating the obvious then finding his negative speculative gem. 2 weeks before training camp and he's already on Demko.

With all the scoring talent on this team I think it will look more cohesive simply through better structure and different voices implementing the team plan. The potential is vast and I think the PP and offense in general will be good just look a little different. Overall change is encouraging.

There's a good chance this is a repetitive point but I have not read this thread in it's entirety. Why is it this contract has to be a 7 or 8 year contract. What's wrong with an Austin Mathews type contract. I like it. 4 years @ $11 million rather than 7 or 8. Seems to me most if not all players are well over there worth in 7-8 years if they're signing around 25. Seems young but this sport overall is a short shelf life sport. Vancouver knows over payment long term, they are experts in overpaying long term. How about overpaying short term?

Reading your post I think to myself long gone are the days of the Vancouver 2012 standard of defense compared to now, having a defense that can win a CUP as opposed to just make the playoffs. You're right there's more additions to be made but only if Vancouver has the players that can be built on. People need to realize, yup we need to make the playoffs, but that is only another very tough step at this point. A team needs a Tampa Bay type core. A decade core, a CUP core not just make the playoffs core. Vancouver has a long way to go but I think they are on the right track I just think that fan expectations have to be realistic in the time frame department. As you point out there are more pieces to be added if this present group is foundational.

I understand that, I'm torn because how many times has Vancouver given a 1st up in the past and come up short in the future while looking at their prospect pool? This is the discipline part of not trading picks away. I do understand your point.

Not a fan of trading the 1st unless you have 1sts I feel uncomfortable about that one. There's other players not mentioned that can be moved to gain the so called wiggle room.

Zach is a heck of a nice kid who's always had a tough time getting out of his way. Hope this stop works out for him. Gotta hand it to him for longevity at this point regardless of his off ice challenges.

Here's a question. Are they having the young gun tourney in Penticton this year?

I think the reality of making the playoffs the past two seasons were basically shot by November. Regardless of what happened after November during both seasons Vancouver missed the playoffs. How this team starts and maintains pace is paramount. If we get another face plant during the first ten games it's gonna be a repeat crap season. However getting a good start will at least get some play off optimism brewing. On that note there have been many a great start followed by disaster but at least with a strong start there's a chance of keeping up with the pack. This division regardless has some pretty good teams to keep pace with let alone the whole league. I'm optimistic.

Ya those dumb Canucks fans

Why do you say that? Seattle is so close and I know little about that club. Why do you thing they slip?

I like discussing Calgary these days. After Sutter was let go I was surprised to see a portion of remaining players still wanting to leave. Toffoli voiced his stance and was traded days later. I think there's still some veterans that are indicating they won't resign. There's definitely some kind of divide here. I wonder if this effects the regular season performance? I still think there's more changes in Calgary coming. We'll see.

That's a pretty damn good dark horse pick. The games he played with the big club last season were impressive.

I don't pay attention to to these mid summer hockey filler articles. Great they don't find Vancouver making the playoffs. Hell, Jeff Patterson (not a Canucks Army contributor) probably finds them finishing last who cares? I look at that list and the team that pops out at me is the Calgary Flames. With all the disarray and turmoil in that front off and on the ice I see a drop off from last season. People forget Calgary tied Vancouver in games won. (17 OT losses). I see Calgary the team dropping n the standings and LA not quite as good. There's a few toss ups in the Pacific division and counting Vancouver out of the playoffs in the middle of the 2023 summer is pretty funny. Not to be payed attention to.

Talk about a guy stretching a career out, good luck to him.

The Flames are a mess? That's fantastic news. I'm not that impressed with Edmonton either.

A nice plan on paper but how will go on the ice? Size matter over the long haul. I don't want to see this team heading into the playoff with a bunch of little guys trying hard. The season changes when the playoffs begin and unless one of Vancouver's smaller forwards draws comparisons to Martin St Louis, which none do, Vancouver still needs to beef up. Not all these guys can make the team as is. Who moves will be interesting.

I wouldn't be surprised that someone besides Myers will be gone. Just curious as to which player or players go.

I forgot my usual "yawn" to your post.

I agree with what you state but there is something that anyone knows about when they've played team completive sports at most levels. That something is a competitive sports hatred towards the other team, regardless of who's on it. Sutter's father is wired in this way I'd say he still hates Vancouver by his reactions on the father son road trip a few seasons back. Lets hope the younger Sutter is wired that way too if he wants to make the Oilers. Lets also hope Vancouver players are wired that way too. This isn't a softy sport.

Good for Sutter wish him the best, How ever if he makes the Oilers out of camp it's a clear indicator the Oilers still have flimsy team defense if they want a cup. I think Brandon has been out of the game to catch up but if he does good news for Vancouver. He's now the enemy.