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I hadn’t even noticed that. That is impressive. I wouldn’t have expected high PIM but certainly more than one penalty in 29 games. Just with the way he goes to the net and how hard he fights for pucks in the offensive zone, I figured he’d have a few stickwork calls and maybe some goalie interference.
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The panel pretty much decides everything anyway. From a USCHO article on the voting process: http://www.uscho.com/2017/01/30/first-phase-of-hobey-baker-award-fan-balloting-now-open/ This isn’t meant to discourage anyone from voting. I’m sure the panel pays attention to how the fans are voting and is influenced to some extent. But ultimately, the 27 member panel vote carries 99% of the weight for determining the final 10, Hobey Hat Trick (final 3), and the winner of the award.
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Obviously the HockeyAllsvenskan scoring officials read this thread.
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Pretty cheap to deny him that one. Had he done the same thing inside his own blue line, chipped the puck into open ice, and had a teammate skate in on a breakaway and score, I’d say it’s a guaranteed assist. But somehow chasing down and harassing the puck carrier, forcing the turnover, chipping the puck into open ice in a prime scoring area, and then a teammate finishes—that’s not an assist? C’mon. Give the kid an apple. Not that he needs to pad his stats though.
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Jack Rathbone | #3 | D
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME replied to Tomato Pajamas's topic in Prospects / Farm Team
Great find! Glad we can finally check in on how he’s doing. It’s strange because I feel like I checked that site a while back and they didn’t have the 2017-18 stats up. But anyway, either I missed it or they put them up recently. Regardless, it’s nice to have them finally available. You’re right that his points/game should be higher. I think the 10-1 game was his first game back from the injury. He had 1G 2A in his first 3 games, then got hurt, and now is back with 1G and 2A in his last game. So probably 2G 4A in 4GP and 1.5 points/game this season. As an aside, I’m intrigued by Rathbone’s teammate Jack Nisbet. I believe he’s still uncommitted to a college. He was listed recently as one of the top uncommitted players in the nation. Currently has 13G 6A and seems to score a goal in every game Dexter plays this season. I believe the knock on him was his skating but otherwise the scouting reports say he has a pretty good skill set, good passing and vision, and seems to have a knack for scoring goals. Not sure if he’s good enough (so tough to gauge off numbers at this level) to warrant a late round pick as a draft re-entry (went undrafted in 2017, his first year of eligibility). Also, from his social media, he seems to be a big time Trumper, but I suppose I won’t hold that against him. John Farinacci (2019 eligible) is also an interesting teammate. 25 points (10G 20A) so far and leading Dexter in scoring this season as a 16-year-old. Apparently, he narrowly missed making the USDP U17 team (which is a pretty stacked group).- 3,880 replies
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Well deserved ^^ I hope the selection committee feels the same.
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Dahlén’s goal was of the rare empty net power play variety. Unfortunately, from the game sheet it looks like it was just a late game goalie pull while the trailing team was was already on the PK. Not the ultra rare 6v6 goal, where the trailing team pulls their goalie, goes 6 skaters, takes a delayed penalty, and then the leading team also pulls their goalie, and they play 6v6 with two empty nets.
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Cue Ryan Lasch, Alex Friesen, and Linden Vey references in 3-2-1
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Elias Pettersson | #40 | C
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Current Roster
Depends on the return. But as a general rule, I’d probably listen to offers on anyone over say 23 years old who’s not named Sedin. -
Elias Pettersson | #40 | C
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Current Roster
Secondary Assists Era Age League SEAL adjusted numbers take raw scoring and apply statistical adjustments for the 4 above factors. They’re still in their relative infancy, but have proven pretty effective in comparing prospects and predicting their future performance. EDIT: Actually, the “S” now stands for “situational.” I was thinking of the earlier model where they adjusted for secondary assists (as well as era, age, and league) but the current model (developed in the last year or so) breaks down scoring by game states (5v5, 5v4, 4v5, etc) and also splits points into their components (goals, primary assists, secondary assists) and assigns values for each. -
Elias Pettersson | #40 | C
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Current Roster
I think Malhotra, like Linden, is walking around today at a lower weight than he was during his prime years as a player. And since whenever I see Manny, I tranq dart him, wrap him up in a net, and hang him from a crane scale, I could tell you his actual weight. But I believe in respecting players’ privacy. -
I don’t mind Pronman as an analyst. And I enjoy him as an interview. He’s quite good for profiles/scouting reports and player comparables. And he often makes some interesting and valuable observations on individual prospects. But I don’t really put too much stock in his rankings. They always seem just a little off to me, subject to some noticeable (albeit fairly consistent) biases, and often include a few hot takes.
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Jack Rathbone | #3 | D
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME replied to Tomato Pajamas's topic in Prospects / Farm Team
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I hope so. And I want to believe it. Just find the public statements frustrating. Of course, management doesn’t design their press releases for fans like me (who actually read the CBA). The try to appeal to the common fan, who has no interest in this stuff. So saying “let’s wait until they’re ready before worrying about contacts” sound good to some fans and they don’t question it. Plus, the average fan would probably get upset if they heard a recent draft pick had “refused” to sign a contract. And outlets like TSN would have a field day with a public confirmation that Pettersson and Lind are “holding out” and “just in it for the money.” So I can see why management might handle things the way they have. And I’m willing to give them the benefit of the doubt (although it would be easier if they didn’t already have a history of making a few minor CBA blunders).
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I’m hoping that the delays are being driven by the agents for Lind and Pettersson. It’s possible they’ve told Vancouver that their clients simply won’t sign deals until 2018, due to the financial benefits of avoiding ELC slide (especially when it comes to potential career earnings). This really hasn’t been a common tactic in previous years, but agents are always looking for an edge, and they read the CBA just as much as anyway does, looking for loopholes and advantages to exploit. But yeah, if this is just ignorance/negligence on management’s part, it’s definitely an area of concern and deserves criticism. I really hope that’s not the case though. Especially if it ends up costing the team millions in cap down the road. Frustratingly, the public spin has suggested that management is choosing to delay signing these contracts. Of course, you can’t always take the official line at face value. But JB has said that he’s in no rush to sign Pettersson until he’s NHL ready. That sounds good to the average fan. But it completely ignores the benefits afforded by ELC slide (as already detailed in earlier posts). Similarly, the word on Lind was that the team was in contract discussions last year but was taking their time and waiting to see how well Lind performed. Why wait? Is there really any question of whether or not Lind will be signed? It’s not like they’re going to just let his rights expire. Lind is getting a contract at some point. So why not get him signed when the team gets the most advantage? So basically, if the delays are from the players side, that’s fine. Part of the business and hats off the the agents for looking out for their clients. But if management is dragging their feet, it’s a problem. Because they would either be knowingly chosing to put themselves at a disadvantage (which would be pretty bad), or they aren’t even aware of the issue (which might be even worse). Hopefully it’s coming from the players’ camps. But I’d sure feel a lot better if management confirmed this publicly. Because every time they say something that suggests they chose not sign Pettersson and Lind in 2017, it makes me wonder if they’re even aware of the potential consequences of this delay:
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Elias Pettersson | #40 | C
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Current Roster
I think Pettersson said somewhere that he only really started a strict program, in terms of his diet and training, when he arrived at Växjö this season. He admitted that he kind of hated going to the gym previously, but now that he’s getting pushed, and seeing the results (he mentioned squats specifically), he’s really committed to working on building muscle and improving his physical performance. Similarly, he hadn’t really been taking advantage of a dietitian/nutritionist until this season, but apparently he’s now eating he way he needs to. A few pounds of gains might not seem like a lot, but it’s really tough for many players to add weight during the season, especially kids with Pettersson’s genetics. Nonetheless, he’s doing the right things and has been getting stronger and adding a little weight (unfortunately some of that was probably wiped out by his flu). I’d expect the real tangible gains, as far what kind of numbers he sees when he steps on the scale, will happen this summer and beyond. But he’s definitely getting a jumpstart on the process, and reportedly has a team of people working with him now to make sure he stays on top of his diet and training. -
@Rick Blight posted the rules above regarding ELC slide. It’s determined by NHL games played. Less than 10 NHL games in a season and the contract slides (if player is 18 or 19 on September 15th of the year the season starts). An good example is William Nylander. His contract slid in 2014-15, even though he split that season between two pro leagues, the SHL and the AHL. https://www.capfriendly.com/players/william-nylander Similarly, had Pettersson been signed in 2017, his contract would slide this year while he’s in the SHL. And it could slide again next season if he went to the AHL or did another SHL year. But like Lind, Pettersson is turning 20 between September 16th and December 31st of 2018. So any contract signed in calendar 2018 is now slide ineligible, and will start burning years off his ELC no matter where he plays hockey. Ideally, both Lind and Pettersson would have been signed in 2017, allowing the team to maximize potential ELC slide benefit, effectively turning 3 year contracts into 4-5 year contracts, and knocking any signing bonuses from slide years off the total cap hit. But that ship has sailed.
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Jack Rathbone | #3 | D
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME replied to Tomato Pajamas's topic in Prospects / Farm Team
Jack is back! Glad to see he’s recovered from the injury and back playing (and scoring) again. Still tough to get stats on the kid though.- 3,880 replies
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I hope Lind plays NHL next year. Otherwise, the Canucks kinda screwed the pooch by not signing him before the New Year. At this point, any contract Lind signs is ineligible to slide. Had he been signed in 2017, he’d have two years of slide eligibility. But due to Lind’s late birthday, he falls under a CBA clause that makes him slide ineligible if signed in 2018. Which means that, if Lind plays AHL next season, he’d still burn that year off his ELC. Had he been signed in 2017, he could play AHL next season and have his contract slide a year. Basically, it’s the difference between Lind hitting RFA status in 2021 versus 2022. And by waiting on Lind’s contract, the Canucks are risking having to carry maybe a couple million in extra cap hit for 2021-22. Maybe that’s not a big deal for most people. But for me, I’m kind of expecting this team to be pretty good by 2021-22. Maybe good enough that a couple million in cap will really matter. Like the difference between picking up a decent depth player or not. Or the cap difference between extending a player or not. Little stuff like that. Those final pieces that can make a difference for a contending team. I just don’t get why they let this one slip. Clearly Lind is getting a deal at some point. So why not sign him already? Even if Lind plays NHL next season (which would negate the 2021-22 issue), it would still have saved the Canucks a little cap to have signed Lind in 2017, just because his signing bonus comes off the top in slide years. So I ask again: why isn’t anybody signing Kole Lind? Or why wasn’t anybody signing Kole Lind before the slide window closed on December 31st, 2017?
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Why isn’t anybody signing Kole Lind?
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Elias Pettersson | #40 | C
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Current Roster
Dunno what he’ll do when he needs to make a pass but has Boeser on one side and Elias on the other. Maybe pass back to Marky? -
Elias Pettersson | #40 | C
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Current Roster
And both angles put together, just ‘cuz, y’know... Elias. -
Elias Pettersson | #40 | C
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Current Roster
It’s on TSN2. EDIT: actually looks like TSN is doing an hour delay and now starting at 10:30. Otherwise you’ll need to... actually I can’t say due to board rules. -
Elias Pettersson | #40 | C
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Current Roster
Liberec is in tough. Växjö is already a rough place for a road team. Getting down early is not the start the White Tigers were looking for. They were already underdogs before the puck dropped.