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[GDT] Around the NHL | March (05-11) 2023
DeNiro replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in General Hockey Discussion
If it was almost any other team they’d get slapped with circumvention penalties. -
[PGT] Anaheim Ducks at Vancouver Canucks | Mar. 08, 2023
DeNiro replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Canucks Talk
I know. Peeke is not worth a top 10 pick though. Especially not with Hoglander attached to it. -
[GDT] Around the NHL | March (05-11) 2023
DeNiro replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in General Hockey Discussion
I’m sure their fans are breathing a sigh of relief. That looked like a pretty serious injury. -
[PGT] Anaheim Ducks at Vancouver Canucks | Mar. 08, 2023
DeNiro replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Canucks Talk
I hope that’s not the best player available… -
[PGT] Anaheim Ducks at Vancouver Canucks | Mar. 08, 2023
DeNiro replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Canucks Talk
If we keep our pick and take Reinbacher I will be shocked and pleasantly surprised. He’s the closest thing in this draft we’re gonna get to that. Apparently he’s playing in all situations in the Swiss league. Still need to find another elite young center somehow in that scenario. -
[PGT] Anaheim Ducks at Vancouver Canucks | Mar. 08, 2023
DeNiro replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Canucks Talk
No they drafted them with picks similar to the ones we just traded away which is a late first (Vasilevsky) and two seconds (Point, Kucherov). Much more difficult to find those players in the third and later. So we’re gonna have to hope that either guys on the farm exceed expectations, or we can steal a top prospect from another team. -
[PGT] Anaheim Ducks at Vancouver Canucks | Mar. 08, 2023
DeNiro replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Canucks Talk
We need more than role players. And yes even if they’re on their bridge deals most cup winners have those young impact players on value contracts. -
[PGT] Anaheim Ducks at Vancouver Canucks | Mar. 08, 2023
DeNiro replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Canucks Talk
Then carry on. -
[PGT] Anaheim Ducks at Vancouver Canucks | Mar. 08, 2023
DeNiro replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Canucks Talk
Never said a team was built entirely through the draft that’s a straw man. The difference between our core and those ones is that they had at least four elite pieces they drafted all within an age range that kept them competitive for over a decade. If you think our core is done and only needs a supporting cast you’re in for a rude awakening. This team is one or two big pieces away from simply needing a supporting cast. I hope we can get that piece in this draft but it’s looking less likely. Gonna have to hope we can make a good trade for that player. -
[PGT] Anaheim Ducks at Vancouver Canucks | Mar. 08, 2023
DeNiro replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Canucks Talk
Tampa drafted Killorn, Point, Cirelli, Kucherov, and Vasilevsky with picks similar to the ones we’ve traded away recently. They don’t win their cups with those key pieces. And the important factor with those players that you don’t get through trade and free agent is cost control. We need more young guys that we’ll be able to get value out of for longer. -
[PGT] Anaheim Ducks at Vancouver Canucks | Mar. 08, 2023
DeNiro replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Canucks Talk
Yea next! You’re the one continuing to try to get me to drink your kool aid. I don’t want it. -
[PGT] Anaheim Ducks at Vancouver Canucks | Mar. 08, 2023
DeNiro replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Canucks Talk
But where is the young cost controlled impact players that will help boost us to another level when we’re capped out? Thats the missing piece to the equation and what becomes harder and harder the more corners you cut. -
[PGT] Anaheim Ducks at Vancouver Canucks | Mar. 08, 2023
DeNiro replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Canucks Talk
It would be laughable if it wasn’t so painfully obvious. This market has been so starved for a championship that we continue to buy these short term promises of success. And then like politicians the next guy comes in and makes the same promises and we think “this time it’ll work!” The only proven method for building a team is a patient build through the draft. -
[PGT] Anaheim Ducks at Vancouver Canucks | Mar. 08, 2023
DeNiro replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Canucks Talk
Wetting the bed from too much kool aid? Maybe don’t drink so much before you go to sleep. -
[PGT] Anaheim Ducks at Vancouver Canucks | Mar. 08, 2023
DeNiro replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Canucks Talk
And yet look at their prospect pool… They have all the pieces we have and an influx of young talent on the doorstep. They’re already a bubble team and I’d expect them to be a regular playoff team within a couple years. -
[PGT] Anaheim Ducks at Vancouver Canucks | Mar. 08, 2023
DeNiro replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Canucks Talk
And how do you feel after drinking so much Kool aid? Like you wanna hand over thousands of dollars to Aquaman because we’re only two years away? -
[PGT] Anaheim Ducks at Vancouver Canucks | Mar. 08, 2023
DeNiro replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Canucks Talk
For sure it could very well work this time that’s what we’re all gonna cheer for. But yea if we’re setting up for another short window of success followed by another 7 year retool I can’t go through that again. I wanna see this team follow the model of successful organizations that build up depth to critical mass and then have a constant stream of young talent coming in. When you reach that point you can continue to trade non core players for picks and prospects and continue to cycle in young talent. That along with good drafting can keep a window open for 15 years. But the more you trade those 1sts and 2nds the harder and harder it is to build up that depth. And then you start to see those age gaps between core players and your prospects grow too big. We saw that under Gillis and Benning. That’s what’s always gonna keep leading to these extended retools. I just hope we keep more focus on the future with this management group. That will ultimately decide how many chances this core gets at winning the cup. -
[PGT] Anaheim Ducks at Vancouver Canucks | Mar. 08, 2023
DeNiro replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Canucks Talk
See I’d rather Miller move to wing and have that young center develop in that second slot. To me that keeps the window open for much longer and it stacks our top 6. But if that’s not in the cards hopefully we acquire one through trade. -
[PGT] Anaheim Ducks at Vancouver Canucks | Mar. 08, 2023
DeNiro replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Canucks Talk
Oh sorry. Do you prefer Dr. Kool Aid? -
[PGT] Anaheim Ducks at Vancouver Canucks | Mar. 08, 2023
DeNiro replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Canucks Talk
I’m excited too and it’s obvious we have a lot of great pieces in place I’m not gonna argue that. I think we were one big piece away though and that was another elite center. It’s just frustrating to see that slip away with less than 20 games to go. But I just hope they can acquire a top young center or D with that first cause I fully expect it to be traded. -
[PGT] Anaheim Ducks at Vancouver Canucks | Mar. 08, 2023
DeNiro replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Canucks Talk
Captain of the Kool aid crew also reporting. -
[PGT] Anaheim Ducks at Vancouver Canucks | Mar. 08, 2023
DeNiro replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Canucks Talk
False. Steve Yzerman is one of the best GMs in the league and he knows how to patiently build up depth and not put the cart before the horse. He could have easily pushed for playoffs this season but he realized he needed more pieces before his team was ready. So he traded two of his best players for futures. Thats the kind of patient approach fans were hoping to see. And that doesn’t mean tear it down, it just means making more rational moves based on where the team is at in their cycle. -
[PGT] Anaheim Ducks at Vancouver Canucks | Mar. 08, 2023
DeNiro replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Canucks Talk
We’re missing an elite young center coming up behind Pettersson. This was the draft to get that player. Having a center developing behind Petey means that they’ll be in their prime and ready to take the reins when Pettersson is on the decline. That’s how you keep your window open for longer. This teams development of center and D depth has been pathetic over the years to say the least. But if our pick is around the 10 mark I’m expecting us to trade it for a young center or D. Hopefully we can acquire a good player with it. Because if not I see this teams window being closed in about 4 years. Might get one run in that time if we’re lucky. -
[PGT] Anaheim Ducks at Vancouver Canucks | Mar. 08, 2023
DeNiro replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Canucks Talk
Big night on the out of tank scoreboard coming up! Focus now shifts to the Habs, Flyers, and Blues. Crucial that those teams find a way to get points down the stretch and at least allow us to stay in that 6 spot. -
[PGT] Anaheim Ducks at Vancouver Canucks | Mar. 08, 2023
DeNiro replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Canucks Talk
Well we basically got 5 first rounders at the deadline if you think about it. Who needs to keep picks when other teams just hand you their “first rounders”.