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[Rumour] J.T. Miller Trade/Contract Talks
aGENT replied to Podzilla's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
He'll be 30 when he signs that contract not "31+". And yeah I guess there's only been 29 year olds... That one year difference will surely make all the difference your inferring... -
[Rumour] J.T. Miller Trade/Contract Talks
aGENT replied to Podzilla's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
Yet it happens. Every year. Top line C's and RHD have about the same value FWIW. Not if they trade for him first. Haven't we been through this? Any team looking to win now/whose window is closing would happily look to add Miller, and move cap space to sign him if need be, to fit him. -
[Rumour] J.T. Miller Trade/Contract Talks
aGENT replied to Podzilla's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
I think we'll get roughly the same value it sounds like we were getting offered at the deadline. Which obviously wasn't enough to force our hand early, at the TDL. Miller extended at a reasonable rate that works for the club isn't a problem. -
[Rumour] J.T. Miller Trade/Contract Talks
aGENT replied to Podzilla's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
The team was battling hard to get back in the playoff picture and nobody was willing to pay the (rightfully) high price for two playoff runs of bargain-cap Miller. It's literally no more complicated than that. There's no need for your imagined soap opera narrative. -
[Rumour] J.T. Miller Trade/Contract Talks
aGENT replied to Podzilla's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
No, I didn't think it was remotely the given/guarantee you're attempting to paint it as. It was certainly a player/package I was/am interested in if teams were willing to pay the higher deadline price. Especially when the team started playing their way back in to the bubble playoff picture, I expected a trade less and less at the deadline combined with the above high price. -
[Rumour] J.T. Miller Trade/Contract Talks
aGENT replied to Podzilla's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
There will easily be 5-10+ teams interested in him this summer. -
[Rumour] J.T. Miller Trade/Contract Talks
aGENT replied to Podzilla's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
Fine, Pietrangelo.. like this isn't an uncommon thing. Good players get big deals, all the time. Teams make space. Someone WILL pay him if he's half as good as people around here want to declare he is. -
[Rumour] J.T. Miller Trade/Contract Talks
aGENT replied to Podzilla's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
Like I just don't get it. How is this remotely so confusing?! Either he is, or he isn't. And if he is, what makes sense to THIS team, given where it is. I can see our roster construction issues, succession issues, cap issues, age of our core, etc, etc... And it just seems obvious. There's a term and dollar amount that makes sense to keep Miller and there's one that makes sense to move him. It's really almost all black and white with very little grey. Yet here we are.... -
[Rumour] J.T. Miller Trade/Contract Talks
aGENT replied to Podzilla's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
I don't think he'd struggle at all. We see it literally every year. Would you have thought that the Sharks would extend Hertl at the deal he got? Sign Karlsson? Did Vegas give up assets to bring in Eichel? Did Toronto pay Tavares $11m? Etc, etc... -
[Rumour] J.T. Miller Trade/Contract Talks
aGENT replied to Podzilla's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
No, I'm not buying your baseless owner-interference narrative you keep trying to peddle. The owner wants a good team and to hopefully win a cup. If that's Miller on a team friendly contract, great. If it's Miller traded for assets, cap space, and youth, great. -
[Rumour] J.T. Miller Trade/Contract Talks
aGENT replied to Podzilla's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
Yup. Like I've said all along. Happy to retain him at something like $8x6 but I just don't see why he, or his agent agree to take a $10-$15m discount "because". They're going to be looking at comparables who are getting +/-$65m contracts. If we're only offering ~$50m.... I just don't see it in the cards. And I don't see management budging much on that given the circumstances around the team. It's actually astonishing to me how many people don't seem to see what appears to be pretty obvious data. -
[Rumour] J.T. Miller Trade/Contract Talks
aGENT replied to Podzilla's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
I think you're overcomplicating something that's very simple. Miller either agrees to extend at terms that make sense for the club, or we move him for assets and cap space. Just like Motte. I don't think Horvat is going anywhere regardless of what happens with Miller, unless he refuses to extend (unlikely IMO). If we retain both, one of Miller/Pettersson simply plays wing predominately. I don't think guys like Hunt or Chiasson factor in to long term plans at all. -
[Rumour] J.T. Miller Trade/Contract Talks
aGENT replied to Podzilla's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
Nonsense. Miller can't be both as "irreplaceable" to us as you want to claim, and simultaneously no team willing to pay him his open market value. You can't have it both ways. Teams make cap space for good players every year. A team whose window is closing, and/or looking to win now, would happily pay him open market values in a year. Damn the long term consequences. That's not their concern. Again, if Miller is willing to sign for terms that make sense for us, given where we are in our cycle, our roster issues, etc, etc... Great! He's a good player, I'm happy to have him! If he's not willing to take that $10-$15m discount however, we're better off gaining the assets, cap space and flexibility. There's really very little grey area here. Just like the Motte situation. I'd happily have retained him as well if he was willing to extend for +/- $1.5m. He wasn't, so he's not here anymore and we have a 4th and Lockwood instead. Period. Miller is the exact same situation, if at a bigger scale. -
[Rumour] J.T. Miller Trade/Contract Talks
aGENT replied to Podzilla's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
I think the team would like to keep it under $50m, according to the tweets from a couple weeks ago. So probably closer to $8x6 ($48m). Maybe they come up to to somewhere in that $8-$8.5m range ($8.33 would be $50m). Personally that's still a year or two longer than I'd prefer, but it's not AWFUL term (I certainly wouldn't go any longer). Much above that +/-$8m at 6 years of term though, and I get VERY wary. That's a bad combination RIGHT when Petey and Hughes should be peaking. I also think he could get $60m+ on the open market as a UFA. Is he going to leave $10-$15m on the table...? I'm doubtful. -
[Rumour] J.T. Miller Trade/Contract Talks
aGENT replied to Podzilla's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
Not cheap. Pragmatic. It just doesn't make sense for us to commit the term and cap dollars he's worth on the open market, given where we are in our cycle, the rosters issues we have that we'll need to address if we want to contend, or his age in relation to that cycle. If he'll re-up for terms that make sense to the team, under those circumstances, fantastic! Happy to have him! I just have trouble seeing him give up the +/- $15m required to do so. -
[Rumour] J.T. Miller Trade/Contract Talks
aGENT replied to Podzilla's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
Here's hoping he puts his money where his mouth is. I'd still be shocked if he does though. Just don't see him taking a discount. -
You know you're in the Klimovich thread, right?
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Came for the prospect updates. Stayed for the crazy guy living in his mom's basement AKA foil lined "bunker".
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Any first coming back in a Miller trade is going to be the 3rd or 4th piece. It's not just Miller for a late first. You get two other good pieces, loads of cap space, and perhaps, the chance to move up for a guy Jiricek. All while not saddling ourselves to a huge contract that Miller is almost guaranteed to regress under, and not be full value through it, and an anchor at the young core's peak
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[Rumour] J.T. Miller Trade/Contract Talks
aGENT replied to Podzilla's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
Severson is a LONG way from being as good defensively as Tanev. Marino is a lot closer to that player type, is younger, club controlled and cheaper. -
[Rumour] J.T. Miller Trade/Contract Talks
aGENT replied to Podzilla's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
*Pointing out childish, petty and annoying comments/behavior, isn't actually a personal attack. -
[Rumour] J.T. Miller Trade/Contract Talks
aGENT replied to Podzilla's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
Yeah... That's what media does there Tips. If you wanted McCrimmon's private notes (nothing I remotely suggested)... Good luck to you. A modified trade clause, is still a trade clause. You also may recall from Vrbata, that even a modified one can put a hell of a wrench in things by only opening your list to teams who's have zero interest. No GM's are going to do them any favours. It's going to cost them. I never said they'd move him over other options or for scraps. Less than normal circumstances, if they get a better return than paying to move Dadanov.... Perhaps unlikely, not impossible. Nobody suggested trading Miller for Dadanov... There's been a million suggested packages. Reiterating them would just be redundant. I never suggested we'd get him for a second. And again, I'd happily take Hague as an alternative. Regardless, the larger point stands that we'd need the cap space available to take advantage of moves like these, that do in fact happen pretty regularly. We don't have that space with an extended Miller. -
[Rumour] J.T. Miller Trade/Contract Talks
aGENT replied to Podzilla's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
Depends on how you define "great". He has the potential to be another "Tanev". While that's certainly nothing to sneeze at, it's no Hedman etc.