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Elias Pettersson | Quinn Hughes - Contract Discussion Thread
bbllpp replied to Bertuzzipunch's topic in Canucks Talk
After this bs I’d come back with sign my deal or you are on your way to Buffalo -
Elias Pettersson | Quinn Hughes - Contract Discussion Thread
bbllpp replied to Bertuzzipunch's topic in Canucks Talk
Canucks are stupid not to go for 6 if the dollar value is fair, going more than 3 on Hughes would also be a mistake. Signing them both to 3 years means you have to have cap for raises and flat cap with only Myers (who will need to be replaced) is not too wise either but I prefer that to signing Hughes long term and Petey short term I’d offer Petey 6,7,8,9,9,9,10,10 but 1,2, 4 and 5 y not an option guys already demonstrated that his floor is really good I’d offer Hughes 4.5,5.5,7.5 any term is an option (this guys floor is still the KHL if he cannot actually play defence) The idea of putting 8 M of cap on Hughes in the short term is as bad or worse as 7.2 of OEL cap in 3-4 years. It will slam shut any hint of a window we have right now and force decent players/assets out due to the ensuing cap crunch. The team is not much better on paper, if at all, than what was in the Bubble which was clearly a tier down from Vegas so more changes are required to improve. Hand cuffing the team due to cap issues means trading 1st rounders to try improving while moving cap out and all that does is shut the window that will be there in 3-5 years when the core are all in their primes -
Elias Pettersson | Quinn Hughes - Contract Discussion Thread
bbllpp replied to Bertuzzipunch's topic in Canucks Talk
Kyoto is definitely a special place! -
Elias Pettersson | Quinn Hughes - Contract Discussion Thread
bbllpp replied to Bertuzzipunch's topic in Canucks Talk
Yes, paying Hughes 8M in the short term hurts the team as much as OEL in the long term. The opportunity cost is a depth player like Staal on a one year this year and trading at pennies on the dollar for cap space to provide raises for Boeser, Rathbone, Motte and OJ next summer, keeping or replacing Sutter and replacing Halak next summer let alone the following with Miller and Horvat up with only Hamonic coming off (who’ll need to be replaced) to provide cap for them Anything more than 14M for both then we are in a cap crunch until Myers comes off in 3 years and we’ll be letting assets go over the next two years to keep the core together. Personally our D is just not good enough so I’d be moving Miller (crazy to sign him to big money at 30) to address the right side sooner rather than later and improving our cap position at the same time -
I’d go further back to Lumme
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Elias Pettersson | Quinn Hughes - Contract Discussion Thread
bbllpp replied to Bertuzzipunch's topic in Canucks Talk
Lol bro, and the don’t pass point to point through two guys memo got stuck in Covid quarantine -
[DEBATE] Who is the greatest FIGHTER in Vancouver Canucks history?
bbllpp replied to Elias Pettersson's topic in Canucks Talk
For me being “greatest” is more than being “best” Bieksa Gordie Howe hat trick after pummelling Marleau swung the SJ series in 2011 -
Elias Pettersson | Quinn Hughes - Contract Discussion Thread
bbllpp replied to Bertuzzipunch's topic in Canucks Talk
Signed or not I hope these guys are in town by the end of the week. Need to settle and recover from jet lag. If Petey fly’s in from Sweden the week before the season starts he and the team will be off to a sluggish start My guess though is they are timing it to miss the bag skate -
[DEBATE] Who is the greatest FIGHTER in Vancouver Canucks history?
bbllpp replied to Elias Pettersson's topic in Canucks Talk
Voted Kevin “Superman Punch” Bieksa He one punched dropped at a very high rate and lost/drew few fights More a favourite than a best vote as yes Brashear reigned the league for awhile so get that sentiment -
Elias Pettersson | Quinn Hughes - Contract Discussion Thread
bbllpp replied to Bertuzzipunch's topic in Canucks Talk
Sorry had to check my facts, Lindros played in 92, Nedved played with Paul Kariya in 94. Had my super stars mixed up -
Elias Pettersson | Quinn Hughes - Contract Discussion Thread
bbllpp replied to Bertuzzipunch's topic in Canucks Talk
He played for Canada with Lindros (another hold out) in the 94 Winter Olympics. If I recall his number choice of 93 reflects when he became a Canadian citizen -
That should put a pin in the theory that Podz grew 3 inches and topped 6’4” post draft
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[DEBATE] Who is the greatest COACH in Vancouver Canucks history?
bbllpp replied to Elias Pettersson's topic in Canucks Talk
Had to go with AV though I love Quinn -
For a player like Linden a cup in 94 was his HHOF entry that series was legendary and his game 7 performance in a win would have vaulted him into a stanley cup legend giving him pretty much a HHOF bye
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Totally agree
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Bure yes, twins only cause they are twins
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Reality man
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Lol, Linden was a ppg in the playoffs from 18 to 26 before being traded as 70+ regular season player Henrik was struggling to produce a ppg in the playoffs when he was a 90+ regular season player in his prime one is a beast the other is a disappointment, as was Naslund, Bertuzzi and Daniel
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You need look at that in context, before being traded he was 80 in 79
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Cup in 94 HHOF he was that close, regular season stuff is icing. Only two goals in game 7 and his body was a mess Edit: he was built for the playoffs and only got better in them while the chaff disappeared, Sedins, Naslund and Bertuzzi do not hold a candle to Linden in the playoffs, only Bure was able to maintain regular season performance in the playoffs whereas Linden went into beast mode. Greatest Canuck ever
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Interesting take, would be interesting to see this in the context of total puck battles rather than minutes played but agree with your sentiment. Brock is due a break out year offensively and all other aspects of his game have improved year in year out.
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They need OJ to pan out, Rathbone is more of the same and trade bait in my mind. I’d honestly trade Hughes for a top all-round RHD though if Rathbone projects as a 30-40 point Stecher as we are unfortunately married to OEL at this point. OEL-Ekblad OJ-Myers Bone-Hamonic Feels more rounded