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[GDT/PGT] Preseason Oilers @ Canucks / Oct. 9 / 6:00 PM Rogers Arena
nux_win replied to -DLC-'s topic in Canucks Talk
Depth is a good thing, and I like our depth right now. The thing is that it also means that we have to make some tough decisions and let some useful players go. And there's more tough decisions coming. It's a bit painful to lose promising players but it's also true that we can't sweat the details when the big picture is that we have lots of good options going for us. We have to put some trust in Green and Benning as they have to make a lot of tough decisions. Go Canucks Go! -
Now that's more like it. That's what we've been waiting for... GCG!
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Oooh, that was looking so pretty. GCG! Woo, penalty as a consolation.
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Elias Pettersson | Quinn Hughes - Contract Discussion Thread
nux_win replied to Bertuzzipunch's topic in Canucks Talk
He's not wrong but why do we need to hear from him at all? Yes, we weren't very good last year but the point is that we want to be good this year and going forward. And that requires players to attend camp and in general to put the team's interests ahead of their own. Holding out through training camp in order to squeeze out the very last dime is low class in my opinion. Hasn't happened yet and they could sign any time, and I hope they do, but if they miss camp that's not good for the team and ultimately the players too. GCG! -
They probably wouldn't even give it back to the linesman when their shift is over. GCG!
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Some people take it too far and border on paranoia. Heck, what am I saying, some guys get well beyond the border of paranoia. Widespread EMP attacks seem pretty unlikely, but who knows? Could happen. Wouldn't bother me any. I mean I like playing around on my computer when I'm bored but it isn't my life. I have a very low tech approach to life in general and I could survive fine without any electronics or combustion engines. It might be less fun, but maybe not too, there are many different kinds of hells here on Earth already. The biggest problem, as ever, is other human beings' response to the given disaster, not necessarily the disaster itself. How does that MIB quote go: "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it." That's why I place myself far away from the herd to begin with. I just visit civilization every once in a while. That's good enough for me. GCG!
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Yep. I live on a wooded acreage in northern BC. I keep about a year's supply of food on hand at all times. I have summer and winter "go" bags ready to go at a moment's notice (I use hockey bags). So I can either bug in or bug out in any weather condition as the situation dictates. It helps to be prepared with gear and stuff but it's also important to be prepped mentally and physically. Being fit and knowledgeable are always the most important concerns as far as I'm concerned. I've always been an outdoorsman but I used to think that go bags or thinking about bugging in or bugging out was only for extremists, but in today's climate (both literal and figurative) it's only logical. GCG!
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Yeah, there are certain kinds of humans out there who just can't feel good about themselves unless they are irrationally hating on someone, and then others feel safe about piling on, and then it's suddenly a thing. And then that thing gets legs and becomes a habit. A crutch. Likewise certain people/organizations always get the benefit of the doubt no matter what they do. Humans only pretend to be rational, sometimes even backed up by cooked up or selectively used statistics, and if you say anything about it out loud then you become the next target. The bottom line is that Jim had a great off season and the proof will be seen on the ice very soon. GCG!
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Rick, toughest guy pound for pound I have ever seen, Rypien. RIP. Though he wasn't really a designated fighter, honorable mention to Harold Snepsts for tuning up Dave Schulz when it was much needed and nobody else could (saw that one live and will never forget). Also honorable mention to Gino Odjick for just being Gino. Go Canucks Go!
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Knowing the NHL they might have found some evidence and preferred to just cover it up. I don't know the facts but I know that the NHL has a long history of making troubling allegations disappear instead of bringing them to light whenever they can get away with it. EVERYTHING that goes down in Vegas is on camera. The evidence might not be accessible to the general public, and it might be hard to find even with a warrant, but it most likely exists. You're generally right, there's no way for you or me to know for sure at this very moment who is telling the truth, but there is a way. Go Canucks Go! Oh, one more thing: Kane is undoubtedly a scumbag but the NHL doesn't look very scrupulous these days either. For example, they made the officiating scandal with Tim Peel disappear way too quickly for my liking. I don't know how they managed to make it look like an isolated incident, but they did (as if that was an isolated incident, that's just the one time they got caught red handed). And that's only one highly suspicious issue out of many. There are always bad apples, i.e. individual people doing bad things, but in general the culture of any organization tends to come from the top. I think that the NHL has become too focused on money and nothing else, and have left every other consideration behind. Or in other words I believe that there actually are other considerations.
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Actually I don't think that's technically possible at a logic/language level. When one throws around superlatives like "maximum" and "most" then it necessarily means that all other considerations are ignored. One can indeed get a very good payday and still consider other things, but that has been my point all along. GCG!
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I'd say that's an exaggeration. Yes, sadly, most players are all about the money, and nothing else, but I would guess that there are more than 0.001% of players who take a bit less than maximum in order to help the team win. I like to think that more than 0.001% of people care about things other than money. I could be wrong, but I like to think that. GCG!
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It's not all or none. I said "less respect", not zero respect. I still have a lot of respect for Petey and Hughes, it's just that I can say that honestly and still say that they need to take more responsibility for the negotiation process. If they want to win the big prize, and I hope they do, they need to help the team more than just on the ice and take more than just a mercenary attitude. If every player did whatever it took to get the absolute maximum amount of dollars then that would lead to a lesser chance of winning the cup. It's about a careful balance and putting the team before personal interests not everyone for themselves. They'll still get a VERY good pay day in the long run, they just don't need to hurt the team's chances of winning along the way. GCG!
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Saying that "everyone else does it" is a pretty poor excuse for bad behavior to me. The real point here is that the player can sign whenever they want. Hiding behind the agent is cowardice in my opinion. Maybe there's a lot of cowards out there, I don't know. If they don't want to take the team's interests in mind then that's fine, but that's the player's decision, and it's squarely on them. It's well past time for these millionaire athletes to take responsibility for their decisions. GCG! P.S. - And like I said, do you think Sakic or Yzerman ever hurt the teams interests in order to squeeze out more money? And it does hurt the team to have their star players miss preseason time, much less regular season time. In order to win the big prize players have to not only be talented and work hard, but they have to put the team's interests before their own. That's why players like Sakic and Yzerman had so much success. Yes, they had a lot of talent but it takes way more than just that. It takes real commitment to the team. I still like Petey and Hughes, don't get me wrong, but they have to show some leadership instead of just following the same old path to greed. Petey said he wants to play for a winner, and that's a good thing, but the commitment has to go both ways.
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The agents work for the players. It's a tired old game where the agent does all the dirty work and the player pretends like they have no say in it. If every player used stalling tactics to squeeze out every last dime they can get, the team has a less and less chance of ever winning a cup. Do you think Sakic or Yzerman ever held their team hostage for "routine negotiations"? (I didn't look it up but I doubt it) Yes, the agents are scum, but they work for the players not the other way around like people want to pretend. Go Canucks Go!
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I like the second half of your comment more than the first. I'm not OK with them missing any games because of contract negotiations. In fact I don't want them to miss any meetings or any pre season games either. There is no way an RFA should hold a team hostage no matter how good they are or how important they are to the organization. In fact if Petey and Hughes want to be important parts of the organization going forward they better get their act together and sign on the dotted line. No hiding behind greedy agents, it's the PLAYERS who should be deciding when to sign and for what dollars. The douchebag agents get way too much power in today's NHL and it's the players who are to blame for that. I like Petey and Hughes but if they want respect going forward they need to show where their loyalty lies. Do they care more about feeding their greedy agents or being good team players? Go Canucks Go!
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[Report] Jim Benning to return for next season
nux_win replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Canucks Talk
Talk is cheap (though perhaps fun sometimes). I'm looking forward to see how it plays out on the ice. That's the real test. At this point the past doesn't matter, it's all about what's to come. And as far as I can tell the future that Jim has built for this hockey club looks pretty good. But, like I said, it's all about what happens on the ice, not opinions, nor what happens in boardrooms, nor phantom phone calls. I can't wait for the season to begin to see how it all plays out. Go Canucks Go! -
[DEBATE] What deal will Elias Pettersson sign for?
nux_win replied to Elias Pettersson's topic in Canucks Talk
I'm not sure what point you are trying to make but it is factually incorrect. EP has had more than one injury. Like I said, Tanev indeed got more injuries than average, but unless someone can tell me why it doesn't really mean anything. GCG! -
[DEBATE] What deal will Elias Pettersson sign for?
nux_win replied to Elias Pettersson's topic in Canucks Talk
So what is it that makes someone "injury prone"? What is the mechanism? One can talk statistical correlations or statistical anomalies but unless there is some kind of causal connection it's meaningless. Yes, some athletes get more injuries than others, and Tanev is certainly an example. But unless someone can come up with why, the concept of "injury prone" doesn't really mean anything to me. It's one of those things that many people talk about but few people understand (if anyone). Is nobody willing to admit that there is at least an element of randomness (i.e. luck) with injuries? Go Canucks Go! -
[DEBATE] What deal will Elias Pettersson sign for?
nux_win replied to Elias Pettersson's topic in Canucks Talk
I think that the concept of "injury prone" is way over-played, if it exists at all. He certainly sustained more than his fair share of injuries. That's not in doubt. Why that was is anybody's guess. GCG! -
[DEBATE] What deal will Elias Pettersson sign for?
nux_win replied to Elias Pettersson's topic in Canucks Talk
Of course staying healthy is important to any job, especially a professional athlete. But the point is that there is a random factor in injuries. Yes, some people are stronger and more durable than others, and yes some people train more than others and live healthier lifestyles than others (possibly reducing injuries) but the main point is that there is still a rather large random factor involved when talking about injuries. There is this strange idea out there that it's the athlete's fault when they get injured. The idea that some athletes are "injury prone" is way overplayed. Yes, some guys might have medical conditions that make it more likely that they get injured but that is rare. I mean it's possible that some athletes have a slightly higher likelihood of injury but people are far too quick to label certain athletes as "injury prone" and lean on this concept way too hard. I think that's foolish, because there is a random factor involved. GCG!