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  1. Is he fired for that? His job is to sing the anthem. I don't give an F what he thinks about masks or anything else. And did he say he wants people to not wear them or he just wants people to have a choice? Fauci told everyone to not wear a mask at the start. I figure he ought to be held to a higher standard if indeed opinions about masks are relevant to employment and there is no discussion to be had about it.
  2. I think we're just disagreeing on where Loui is at in his career. You seem to think he's a clear NHLer at this point if I understand right, while I think he's a fringe NHLer.
  3. I think it's easy to hyperbolize and say Eriksson is the worst player, he couldn't even make the ECHL, etc. It's also kind of tempting to go in the other direction and defend him excessively...you'd be happy to have him at half the salary, he's a good NHLer just not worth $6M, etc. Like I said, when salary was no concern he was in the press box. I think he's somewhere between an 11th forward and an AHLer. To me that's worth the league minimum to maybe $1.4M.
  4. How am I underrating Eriksson? When 12 forwards were healthy in the later playoffs, he was sitting in the press box when salary was no consideration at all. 13th on the depth chart.
  5. Is he better than Wade Redden? I imagine he would have been buried in the minors if his contract allowed his cap hit or salary to go away like Redden's did if I remember right. I don't think Redden was worse. Redden was probably a 6/7 D or something and Loui is basically a 13th forward. His cap made no difference in the playoffs and he got scratched. Would anybody really be that thrilled to have Loui on the roster at a lower salary if he was a 13th forward getting dressed for half the games? Not really...they'd be like, yeah sure he's not hurting anything for the league minimum to $1M range.
  6. The full game of an old matchup between two serious teams... Off the top of my head I think this game features 9 Hall of Famers... Tony Esposito (in his final season), Wayne Gretzky, Paul Coffey, Grant Fuhr, Mark Messier, Glenn Anderson, Kevin Lowe, Doug Wilson and Denis Savard. And a whole bunch of other guys at least within a longish stone's throw of the Hall of Fame...Steve Larmer, Andy Moog, Charlie Huddy, Troy Murray, Tom Lysiak, Al Secord (if he isn't injured), Bob Murray, Ken Linseman, Lee Fogolin. Wayne Gretzky has 19 points in his last FOUR games coming into this one, and is on an 18-game scoring streak.
  7. Brashear was like the Mogilny of fighters. Very, very good at it but he didn't capture hearts.
  8. Gino and Tiger are the two enforcers that should go up there. There's no risk of slippery slopes or floodgates being opened.
  9. Truth be told, I don't really give that much weight to the triple gold club. Nobody is getting into the Hall of Fame for world championships or world juniors. They're nice on the resume but do they count for more than, say, two All Star Games? Or even one perhaps. Olympics and Canada Cups and stuff are significant and for a guy like Luongo makes up for no Stanleys. As to the going back to old eras for candidates...I think guys like Randy Carlyle, Brad McCrimmon and Charlie Huddy not only may have added more in the way of stats and/or Cups, which could be attributed to their era, but also probably ranked higher relative to their peers at the time as well. That said, I'll have no problem with anyone that wants to make a good case for Jay. Heck of a player.
  10. I don't really like him, and I hated him at the time of the Gretzky hit...but at the same time if I remembered only their worst moments, there would be a lot of names I would want erased from history and the HOF.
  11. I could be out of touch, but I never really thought of Bouwmeester as seriously in the conversation for the HOF. The highest he ever got was 11th place for the Norris and only registered any votes at all in three seasons (with the others further down than 11th). Hell of a player, but when I think of his career as a counterpart to D-men from different eras, I think of guys like Ron Greschner, James Patrick. Maybe slightly higher on a good day around the level of Brad McCrimmon, Charlie Huddy, Kevin Hatcher or Paul Reinhart. I think of him as below Gary Suter on the waiting list, and Suter hasn't got in and also doesn't even get talked about. But maybe I'm underappreciating Bouwmeester, I dunno.
  12. I wouldn't argue much with of that except I'd try to get Pilote and Kelly in there somewhere. And I'd personally have Pronger below some guys not named like Stevens, probably Niedermayer, it sickens me to say it but possibly Duncan Keith, and I would have to consider Housley and Murphy just based on massive points disparity (over 1200 each vs. just short of 700 for Pronger).
  13. Are you familiar with the penalty for high treason against the sovereign...
  14. Garrett was fantastic in relief. A much underrated goalie all things considered. A post-season All-Star in the WHA, and over .500 for his Canucks career, which was an extremely rare thing at the time with those Canucks lineups, nearly an impossible feat. I believe it was only him and Charlie Hodge for the first 20+ years of the Canucks' history. The eardrum injury was a bit of a before and after moment in Brodeur's career. But he was still 8th in voting for the post-season All-Star Team with 14 votes in 1983, the season following his 6th place for the All-Star team and Vezina (and Cup run) in 1982. And still led the NHL in games played in 1985-86. He was widely considered to have had the best glove hand in the WHA.
  15. I think I actually said this once before somewhere but Tim was actually a reasonably handsome guy if you just give him a different nose. It's just one of the most domineering facial features I've ever seen on a person. A reporter asked him once how many times it had been broken and he said zero, my mother has one just like it.
  16. That's a great four but the early 80s saw these guys all appear more or less at once... Coffey, Bourque, Murphy, Housley, Chelios, MacInnis, Scott Stevens, Reinhart, Babych, Lowe, Huddy. That's just the guys with rookie years between 1979-80 and 1983-84 and I'm probably forgetting some. Seven of those guys I named had 900 points, five had 1,000 and two had 1,500.
  17. No problem giving Park his due. He was actually an excellent player all the way up to the mid-80s when he retired. He still had good hockey left him even then except for his knees.
  18. Park was great but he absolutely did not dominate Potvin and Robinson. They were all in the league together when Robinson won two Norris Trophies, Potvin three and Park zero. Park was a fantastic player and a rightful Hall of Famer with room to spare, but that claim about dominating Potvin and Robinson is demonstrably false. If somebody wants to claim instead that playoffs are where it matters, then when it comes to Stanley Cups it is Robinson six (five while Park was playing), Potvin four and Park zero.
  19. If he had played with the Oilers he would, I guarantee, be in the Hall of Fame. He would probably have 1000 points and be talked about with Murphy and Housley in that regard, plus he would have five Cups (and he would have had the puck instead of Steve Smith in 1986 so maybe six Cups). Whereas the Canadiens dynasty had Robinson and Lapointe to put up big points on the blueline, the Oilers had only Coffey and the Islanders had only Potvin. The dropoff from Potvin with 100 points and Coffey with 130 points was the next guy at 40-55 points for the season (Lowe, Huddy). Babych as the other guy on the power play...holy crap.
  20. Potvin and Robinson both started in 1973 and hit the ground running, so Park would have been dealing with those guys too for the supermajority of the decade. He was a hell of a player though, I won't debate that.
  21. Reinhart and Babych are names that will and should come up for discussion before all that long if the list makes its way a little bit further. After that...well, guys like Snepsts, Lidster, McCarthy, Butcher, Brown, Lumme, Bieksa, Edler, Ohlund, Guevremont, Hughes, Tallon, Lanz, Halward and so on could eventually appear.
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