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  1. I'm not saying the world wouldn't be better off with more people like you, but there was a time when - and that time still exists to some degree - if you wanted to do something about this kind of stuff, you had to step into the fray and risk getting injured yourself, or worse. Nowadays, people act like heroes for filming it on their phones or posting things on Twitter that they know in advance will be universally praised. We live in a time where it's really easy to denounce bad things on social media and then everyone high fives each other for doing so. Or they call for other people to lose their jobs and then fist pump the air for making the world a better place. By all means, if something isn't right, say or do something about it. But people, not necessarily you, currently have a tendency to engage in actions that carry no risks of harm or even criticism, and then overstate the danger they faced and the results they produced.
  2. Honestly, that just sounds kind of vindictive. Better to renounce his rights and let him see what he can accomplish, just not with you, than to draft him and then intentionally end his career. I wouldn't have drafted him and I wouldn't want him on my team and I'd have put him through a wall if I'd seen him doing the crap he did. But years later to draft him and then make sure he can't play for you and that he has no other options... I say let the teams individually decide if the kid is worth the trouble or the bad press.
  3. WTF... Boeser and no Smyl. Get out of here NHL.
  4. Just wondering why you want the league to subsidize good drafting vs. good trading or good signings.
  5. I came in wanting to like them but nope. Just looks like Mountain Dew spilled on asphalt.
  6. What is Bettman supposed to do? Issue a Pete Rose style lifetime ban to a guy that has never played in the league for being a scumbag in junior high? Just let the chips fall where they fall. The guy obviously fell in the draft because of it, he'll have a harder road to the NHL because of it. He'll be a pariah of sorts if he does make it. But a pre-emptive lifetime ban from the commissioner?
  7. My thoughts are that anyone who wants to control what Petterson says and where he says it can go F themselves.
  8. Courtnall - Ronning - Linden was known as "the Lifeline" and had quite a bit of respect around the league. The lineup got rearranged a bit when new talent came in but those three are stuck together in a lot of minds that saw them click immediately after the trade with St. Louis.
  9. Overtime 1991 vs. Gretzky's Kings. This dude remembered the goal over 20 years later and I don't think he's even a Canucks fan.
  10. Ronning, Courtnall and Linden were the top line before Bure arrived. Cliff Ronning was the playoff hero in 1991 in that role. Naslund may have performed well in these secondary playoff roles you are hypothesizing, but he doesn't have that Linden stuff in his DNA.
  11. I would say the reason he never did anything in New Jersey was the exact same reason Luongo never made the playoffs in Florida before coming to the Canucks. Vezina finalist caliber goalie on a doggy doo team. But yeah, Schneider was no ironman that's for sure. At least not in Vancouver. He played some heavy workload seasons for the Devils before forgetting how to play goalie.
  12. I have Miller and Schneider below those guys AND Gary Smith. However, I would consider having Schneider above Markstrom. I think Schneider still holds the records for GAA and SPCT for a Canuck. 1.96 GAA for the season is unreal.
  13. A very good case can be made that from 1988 to 1994, McLean was the second best goalie in the NHL over that period. (and don't forget who pulled off a .918 in the 80s...)
  14. When did Morrow play for Vancouver? Anyway, as to your first line, I get what you're saying but I think the point is that like those old guys who don't make the team, these new guys also have a tiny sample size as Canucks. If they got traded tomorrow, their biggest career moments when it was all said and done would be with their next team, just as was the case with Vaive, Bill Derlago, Neely, Murray Bannerman, Peca, etc. Of course if a guy has only played one or two years, his defining moments thus far will be with his first team. Anyway, Vancouver had some great players that just passed through for a cup of coffee at the end. I made a thread about them... Pit Martin, Charlie Hodge, Mel Bridgman, etc. But again, small sample size.
  15. He was one of the best little guys in NHL history. Up there with Fleury and my old time hockey Hall of Fame induction pet project John Ross Roach. Yeah he kind of looked like Radar but I thought he looked like Kyle Reese.
  16. I wonder if anything could have ever lit a fire under Messier while he was in Vancouver. I felt like he fell in love with his own legend after 1994 and seemed to think he had earned the right to play on the first line in the NHL for as long as he wanted thereafter. He wasn't the same guy when he went back to the Rangers after the Canucks either. He wasn't as downright pathetic as he was in Vancouver, but he still seemed to want to coast on his own reputation. The "in love with his own legend" thing is readily apparent in the Mark Messier Leadership Award, not just the award itself but its name and especially how the winner is determined. There's nothing like it in any other major sport and the thing is actually an embarrassment. Anyway, if anybody could light a fire under Messier it would indeed be Stan Smyl, as you've pointed out. Though I'm kind of inclined to think that Messier might be as likely to drag Kesler down to his level as Kesler would be to elevate Messier.
  17. I like most of your lineup but kind of raised an eyebrow at Canucks era Sundin. Was he really that impactful as a Canuck? But then I looked down one line and...oooooh boy... I don't know if there has ever been an easier Canuck to play against than Mark Messier when he was here. The guy went Sunday skating more often than not. Still had enough skill to halfass his way to 50 points. But if you're looking for the Messier that was a pain in the arse to play against, you're looking for the Edmonton or New York versions.
  18. Yes, for a lot of years I've been banging the drum for Vernon, Tom Barrasso and Doug Wilson. At least they finally listen to me and induced Doug Wilson this year.
  19. Smyl was basically a point per game for his playoff career until 1989 when he was on the 18th hole of his career and was a pure role player, and went 0 for 7 and tanked his career average. But even with that, he is still right up at the top. That 1989 team might be on the all time NHL list for most leadership in one lineup. Smyl, Linden, Butcher, Lidster, Reinhart, Bridgman, Snepsts. That's not even mentioning Pederson, Adams, Benning, Bozek, Tanti, Skriko, Rich Sutter... Just right there that's 14 guys you can picture with an A or a C on their jersey. I don't think I'd be able to turn down Reinhart for a spot in that hypothetical all time lineup though, especially when it comes to playoffs. He was great in his one playoff year with the Canucks and he was an absolute destroyer in Calgary, year after year. 17 points in 11 games in 1984. He was looking at the Conn Smythe the way things were going if they had made it out of round 2. He had five separate playoff years in Calgary, each of which would still be talked about today if it had happened in Vancouver.
  20. Yeah this year the cost of Loui was tangible. Dracula didn't re-sign Toffoli and that (hell, plus Stecher) can be linked directly to Loui's 6M on the books. I think Jim's ready to play bad cop with Loui now and at least see if that goes anywhere.
  21. The guy isn't going to make this kind of money ever again in his life, doing anything else. He's not even 40 yet and he has until this contract runs out to make most of what he will make to get him through the next 40 or 50 years. Sure, there would be dignity and just retiring like Markus Naslund...but how many people are really going to do that? Loui's not make a million dollars a year doing anything else from now until the end of his days.
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