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Don’t get me wrong I love Pettersson. But to date Marner is the better player. Not only that but he’s been much more durable than Pettersson. Pettersson does get a nod for being a C. But do you honestly think that means he’s so much more valuable than Msr we that Toronto would not only retain more than $3.5m in cap and thrown in a 1st? Come on man.
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What makes Pettersson so much more valuable? As it is there’s no way Toronto would retain $3.5m on Marner in a 1-1 swap.
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Elias Pettersson | Quinn Hughes - Contract Discussion Thread
qwijibo replied to Bertuzzipunch's topic in Canucks Talk
You’re taking away term, you’re taking away opportunities to earn more when they’re younger by limiting second contracts to a lower percentage. We’re talking about a sport where an injury can end your career in a moment. You’re asking every player to be limited in a way that they currently aren’t. That’s giving up something of value. Giving them a slight bump on the league minimum isn’t going to make up for what you’re taking away. The players didn’t even want to agree to a 50/50 revenue split. How do you think they’ll react to the owners asking them to put a significant cap on their earnings. Also. If you’re capping the earning ceiling on 2nd contract how many multi-year contracts do you think players will sign? None. Their agents would be idiots to let them lock in long term. They’ll sign a 1 year deal then swing for the fence. -
Elias Pettersson | Quinn Hughes - Contract Discussion Thread
qwijibo replied to Bertuzzipunch's topic in Canucks Talk
Those ideas are still taking things away from the players. They love that. -
Elias Pettersson | Quinn Hughes - Contract Discussion Thread
qwijibo replied to Bertuzzipunch's topic in Canucks Talk
You’re asking players to give up a lot of potential income. I don’t see them accepting the bulk of those. You’re asking for a long strike. -
Elias Pettersson | Quinn Hughes - Contract Discussion Thread
qwijibo replied to Bertuzzipunch's topic in Canucks Talk
The stars are always going to get paid. Sometimes at the expense of the workmen (especially with the salary cap). Having stars is a double edged sword. Yes. You need them to win. But you have to pay them or someone else will. The league has skewed to be much younger the past number of years. Guys who would be just getting theirs first sniff of NHL action 15 years ago are now expected to carry the team. It’s the GM’s job to try to balance out the teams needs compared to the players demands. The more stars you have the less there is to go around for everyone else. Teams have a short window to win in them they have to sell off assets. It’s why we’ll likely never see any dynasties like the old days, but it also keeps relative parity in the league. I’d hate to see the NHL turn into the NBA where realistically there’s only a handful of meaningful teams -
Elias Pettersson | Quinn Hughes - Contract Discussion Thread
qwijibo replied to Bertuzzipunch's topic in Canucks Talk
What is the point of the rant? Players should be thankful to have jobs and play for what you decide is fair? (Rather than working within the framework of the CBA that both sides fought tooth and nail to settle on?). I don’t get what you’re trying to say here? What exactly would be your solution? -
Elias Pettersson | Quinn Hughes - Contract Discussion Thread
qwijibo replied to Bertuzzipunch's topic in Canucks Talk
Yes. But it doesn’t take effect until the UFA years begin -
Elias Pettersson | Quinn Hughes - Contract Discussion Thread
qwijibo replied to Bertuzzipunch's topic in Canucks Talk
Then the fallout from that move is has to be option as well. Misting the playoffs in the remedial division, both players demanding a trade, and Benning losing his job -
Elias Pettersson | Quinn Hughes - Contract Discussion Thread
qwijibo replied to Bertuzzipunch's topic in Canucks Talk
you know damn well that sitting both of them for the season isn’t an option. -
Elias Pettersson | Quinn Hughes - Contract Discussion Thread
qwijibo replied to Bertuzzipunch's topic in Canucks Talk
They aren’t doing it to the players face. Seriously. Arbitration hearings are known to be vicious -
Elias Pettersson | Quinn Hughes - Contract Discussion Thread
qwijibo replied to Bertuzzipunch's topic in Canucks Talk
Arbitration is a brutal process. The team goes in and makes a case for why the player isn’t worth what he thinks he is. It’s generally the beginning of the end for the relationship. That’s one of the reasons very few cases actually make it to arbitration each year -
He’s not a hall of famer by any stretch of the imagination
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People are ignoring the fact that Weber struggled for much of the season. He turned it on in the playoffs but he wasn’t remotely their best defenceman during the season. Petry was. Savard won’t replace the playoffs version of Weber but he easily replaces the regular season version Also. They have Primeau in the system who looks to be a legit goaltending prospect
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Elias Pettersson | Quinn Hughes - Contract Discussion Thread
qwijibo replied to Bertuzzipunch's topic in Canucks Talk
Jesus dude. Did an agent beat you up and take your lunch money every day in high school? They serve an important purpose. They know how to navigate the complexities of contracts. Their clients are athletes who often don’t have more than a grade 12 education and who ge really have short pasting careers. Of course players are going to try to maximize what they earn. They also don’t want to be taken advantage of by team GM’s that are trying to get the best deal for the team. you can argue things need to change in the CBA regarding term limits and maximum contracts (although trying to change those things will likely result in another work stoppage). Nothing needs to change with regards to the agents role in representing their clients -
He suffered a knee injury in his sophomore season and finished the year in the minors regaining his confidence. Last season he played very sheltered minutes snd was given ample power play time that he didn’t convert on. I do think the injury threw him off track development wise, but I don’t think I he’s been mishandled in any way. He just turned 21. He has plenty of time to hit his ceiling, just because he hadn’t yet doesn’t mean Montreal screwed up his development
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Lol. I’m pretty sure you were calling him a bustaroo when he was a Hab. Now that he’s a hurricane you apparently think he’s an all star and captain material. He’s a good young player with upside. But he’s struggled the last 2 years. He doesn’t have the value of a 3rd overall pick anymore. Just like Juolevi doesn’t have the value of a 5th overall. He may very well thrive in Carolina. I hope he does. But he’s not remotely worth $6.1m and Bergevin did the right thing walking away.