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I'm pretty sure lottery is only for the first overall. The rest stay as is or only move down one spot if someone after them in the draft order wins it.
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We need like 6 or 7 more burrows'
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Oh really? I knew they got it back but didn't know it was 30th overall
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How many "softies" do we really have lined up for nylanders era though? Gaunce Horvat Kassian Jensen Cassels Shinkaruk Fox Grenier seem to be our forward youth pool and all of them either have size and/or some tenacity.. Top end talent is what we're really missing. He may have soft issues but ISS still has him in the top 5, to me that says something. I'd hate to pass on the kid of he fell to us in the 11-15 range only to take yet another 2way centre and watch Nylander become a consistent 90 point player.
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For sure, me too but if those guys are gone I'd rather take a chance on high skill over another 2 way centre.
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GDT March 17th Canucks vs Tampa Bay Lightning 4:30 PM
thad replied to Ryan kesler the beast's topic in Canucks Talk
True, could be too that if by chance we do make it we want Eddie seasoned as possible. We're going in with 2 rookies lol not the best recipe for success. If by some magical chance we win the cup this year. It'll be because Eddie Lack went 07luongo for us. I guess if we got any chance at all Eddie needs all the playing time he can get. -
GDT March 17th Canucks vs Tampa Bay Lightning 4:30 PM
thad replied to Ryan kesler the beast's topic in Canucks Talk
I don't see why they don't give this one to markstrom. His stats are irrelevant. 12 games on the worst team in the league, of course he's gonna look like crap. Also his ahl stats are going to be bogus as well seeing as Florida doesn't even use their farm team. Put the kid in and see what he's got behind our defense. -
Great article on him with good insight from his D partner and coach. Pretty cool we send scouts there mid season to follow progress and tell him what to work on. This was written feb 14th UMaine's Ben Huttons developed pro skating skills to become NHL prospect The UMaine defenseman struggled as a youth with his skating, but has come a long way on the ice. By Mark Emmert memmert@pressherald.com Staff Writer ORONO There is a piece of family lore that Ben Hutton only recently learned. Apparently, as a beginning hockey player he was struggling with his skating, even when using a chair for assistance. Things came to a head one day when Hutton threw a tantrum while exiting the ice, smashing his stick. I guess after the Christmas break, I came back and something clicked. The hockey gods helped me out and I was one of the better skaters on the ice, Hutton said. I dont remember it. My parents told me this when I was home for Christmas. Its certainly hard to conceive of a time when the Maine sophomore was sluggish on his skates. Huttons 10 goals are more than any other defenseman in the nation. Six have come on the power play. Two have been game-winners. And hes added 12 assists to become one of the most potent scorers at his position in school history. Hell be key to the Black Bears efforts again as they host Merrimack at 7 p.m. Friday and Saturday. Hutton has come a long way from the wobbly toddler in Prescott, Ontario, to 2012 draft pick of the Vancouver Canucks. Even his blue-line partner at Maine, senior Brice OConnor, admits hes sometimes in awe. Hes younger than me but hes still someone I look up to with the things he can do on the ice, OConnor said. He has an NHL future, no question. Its really just how much he wants to put into it, and the skys the limit for him. KNOWS THE SCORE Hutton grew up playing forward, and it shows. He didnt make the switch to defense until age 16, when his junior team, Kemptville of the Central Canada Hockey League, was underperforming. Hutton told his coach that he thought he could be a bigger factor on the blue line, and the coach agreed. I make a good first pass out of the zone. I can help out both offensively and defensively, Hutton said. My hearts a defenseman now. By 2012, Hutton was helping his new CCHL team, Nepean, win a title. He scored 13 points in 18 playoff games. He had committed to Maine already, and wasnt overly hopeful of being selected in the NHL draft after being passed over the first year he was eligible. So when draft day arrived, he grabbed a couple of buddies and headed out on a fishing excursion. Sure enough, after I reeled in a bass, I got a call from Vancouver saying, Hey, listen, we just drafted you, Hutton recalled. And then my phone just started blowing up. My parents were watching. And then when I got back, there was a nice celebration waiting for me. I was already having a good day, because I caught the bass. Its what every kid dreams about, just getting the opportunity to go to an NHL camp. Hutton was the Canucks fifth-round pick. He has since attended two of their prospect camps, gaining confidence in his ability to compete at the pro level while also garnering tips from the Canucks coaching staff about what he needs to improve on at Maine. The team occasionally sends a scout to a Black Bears game for further instruction. Theyll say, Hey, really work on your first three steps, or Work on that first pass out of the zone, Hutton said. After the game youre like, You know what? Now that you think about it, I should have done that better. POWER POINT PRODUCTION Hutton was thrust into a prominent role immediately at Maine, scoring 15 points as a freshman and even seeing time on the power play. He battled a severe case of nerves in his college debut, at home against Quinnipiac. But it was eased on his first shift, when he found himself with the puck in the neutral zone and prepared to dump it in and head back to the bench. Theres a guy coming right at me, and I shoot it in to try to take the hit. I dont know what happened, if he caught an edge or something, but he came into me, he just went flying down, and I heard the crowd, They all went crazy, Hutton said. I was like, All right, this is college hockey. Hutton stands 6-foot-3, 200 pounds, and hes capable of delivering big hits. But he gets much more notoriety for his offense. His coach, Red Gendron, doesnt think that is necessarily fair. Hes got a great stick, and hes got a great feel for the game. Obviously, he can skate, Gendron said. But there have been moments this year, on the penalty kill and other defensive situations, hes been incredible. Basically, most nights he and Brice OConnor play against the other teams best players. Hutton and OConnor were paired briefly at the beginning of last season, before the former wound up with senior Mike Cornell. This year, he and OConnor have been practically joined at the hip from the outset of camp. OConnor, the team captain, is constantly described as reliable. He is more of a traditional stay-at-home defenseman, although his offensive skills may be just as overlooked as Huttons defense. But it is OConnors steady play that has allowed Hutton some freedom to roam, to join rushes with a clear conscience. Hutts is more creative and can pull some of those moves that I couldnt pull off. But its all about reading each other. When you can do that, thats when defensemen can really elevate their game, OConnor said. Hes impressive, though. Some stuff, like in the defensive zone, hes coming around the net and picking the puck out of the scrum and hell do a spinorama between the legs and make a soft, easy pass right up to the wing. I always think if I was in that situation, I would have just went hard off the glass. But hes got the poise and that confidence to stay calm, stay composed and sort of work his way out of a situation, make the smart play. Hutton has been working on getting stronger especially in the lower body. He can feel the difference when hes battling for the puck in the corners of the rink. But he still wants to be a more explosive skater, to accelerate faster. Gendron said he would like to see Hutton add some velocity to his slapshot, and to get it off quicker. Gendron has no doubt that Hutton will put in the work. All hockey players have superstitions. Hutton has two. He kisses the inside of his jersey as hes putting it on, and he and fellow sophomore Devin Shore have a ritualistic handshake they perform just before they step onto the ice. Its working out for Hutton and the Black Bears this season. They stand 13-10-3, tied for fourth in Hockey East with six games remaining. They finally earned a road victory last weekend at Notre Dame, just in time for a key series at Northeastern next weekend. Hutton predicted the breakthrough against the Fighting Irish, and said he is happy to prove people wrong. Like those who still doubt his skills as a defender. If people think that way, Im going to surprise them when they come down on me and well have the puck going the other way, Hutton said. I dont mind that.
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Would be sweet if a guy like Nylander shinkaruks his way down to us at 11-12th. Ranked 5th or something on iss right now. Might be time to start looking at risk reward guys.
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2013-14 Prospect Points Tracker
thad replied to stonecoldstevebernier's topic in Prospects / Farm Team
Anyone hear any info on blomstrand this year? 20pts in 36 games ain't bad. Curious how he's coming along? Wonder if he'll be joining utica next year -
Nuge was thrown into the top six of an nhl hockey team right after he was drafted. I'd consider his lack of development a major reason if not THE reason he's always getting hurt. If we draft a guy like Nylander we likely won't see him for a while because gillis isn't that stupid and we got prospects ready sooner. If they pick the kid it's likely for good reason and they've scouted him heavily enough to say yeah this kid is our next superstar. If gillis takes him over a bigger kid(not his style) you know damn well the scouts were pretty sure he's the next best thing. During this whole collapse I'm thinking our scouting has kicked up a major notch and we've taken good long looks at these kids. I trust whoever they pick will be pretty damn good in the end.
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Who cares really lol 3 picks in the top 20 and your bound to hit a home run
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Lol Daniel is not retiring. I don't think philly was as high on Kesler as we thought. I follow a flyers Facebook page and they were all going crazy saying no Kesler but lots of them wanted edler. Convince edler to waive and go edler 2nd for Schenn 1st. Then Kesler to Anaheim for Lindholm and ottawa's 1st. May not be the most massive returns but 2 blue chippers to replace the guys leaving and 3 first round picks, 2 being top tens(maybe). Then we're lookin like Sedin sedin Jensen Burrows Schenn Kassian Higgins Matthias Hansen Sestito Santorelli Richardson Hamhuis Tanev Lindholm Bieksa Stanton Garrison Dal colle, fluery, Ho Sang?
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Lp
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That's what I think every time I read everyone dying for a RW. Kass Jensen and still grenier are all young RW... Add to that Hansen isn't pushing 30 yet. So even as the kids pass Hansen on the depth chart I don't see anyone taking jannik's third line spot to start their careers. He's as good of a 3rd line winger your gonna find. LW we got shinkaruk as the only guy I see as a lock to make the team on LW some day. I still say we draft the BPA regardless of position but If the scouts are on the fence with who's better, take the guy that plays left.
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I don't think there's a massive talent gap like Reinhart Virtanen. BPA isn't really relevant here IMO. Dal Colle is by far the best winger in the draft and has a just as good a chance as Reinhart to be the best player in 10 years time.
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That's kinda what I think too, I'd still take Virtanen over him. Ekblad/Reinhart Bennett Leon Dal Colle Perlini Virtanen Ritchie Would be my order. Then I'd maybe start looking at gambling on a high risk reward guy like ehlers or Ho sang. We got enough 2 way centres.
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Huberdeau bjugstad barkov all down the middle. High end winger is the bigger need. Reinhart isn't Mcdavid or anything, it's totally plausible to take dal colle. If MDC was a lesser quality player I'd see them just taking Reinhart. But he's in that same high end class
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Button on tsn made predictions if the draft were to end up as the standings are now, it went Buffalo Sam Bennett Edmonton Ekblad Florida Dal Colle Islanders decide to hand the pick to Buffalo this year so they don't miss out on perhaps the better player next year.. Buffalo takes Draisaitl Calgary takes Reinhart If he's right, I'm praying Calgary passes us haha
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ISS rankings as of March 14th.. Interesting seeing Tuch climb to 9th. 1 Ekblad, Aaron D 2/7/1996 R 6.03.5 216 Barrie OHL 2 Reinhart, Sam C 11/6/1995 R 6.00.75 185 Kootenay WHL 3 Bennett, Sam LW 6/20/1996 L 6.00.25 178 Kingston OHL 4 Dal Colle, Michael C 6/20/1996 L 6.01.5 182 Oshawa OHL 5 Nylander, William C 5/1/1996 R 5.11 169 Modo SweE 6 Draisaitl, Leon C 10/27/1995 L 6.01.5 204 Prince Albert WHL 7 Perlini, Brendan LW 4/27/1996 L 6.02.75 205 Niagara OHL 8 Virtanen, Jake LW 8/17/1996 R 6.00.75 208 Calgary WHL 9 Tuch, Alex RW 5/10/1996 R 6.03.5 213 USA Under-18 NTDP 10 Fleury, Haydn LD 7/8/1996 L 6.02.5 203 Red Deer WHL 11 Ho-Sang, Joshua RW 1/22/1996 R 5.11 175 Windsor OHL 12 Ritchie, Nicholas LW 12/5/1995 L 6.02.25 226 Peterborough OHL 13 Kapanen, Kasperi RW 7/23/1996 R 6.00 180 Kuopio FinE 14 Ehlers, Nikolaj LW 2/14/1996 L 5.11 162 Halifax QMJHL 15 McCann, Jared C 5/31/1996 L 6.00.25 179 S.S. Marie OHL 16 Larkin, Dylan LW 7/30/1996 L 6.00.75 190 USA Under-18 NTDP 17 McKeown, Roland D 1/20/1996 R 6.00.75 195 Kingston OHL 18 Milano, Sonny LW 5/12/1996 L 5.11.5 183 USA Under-18 NTDP 19 Goldobin, Nikolay RW 10/7/1995 L 5.11.75 178 Sarnia OHL 20 Barbashev, Ivan C 12/14/1995 L 6.00 180 Moncton QMJHL 21 Fabbri, Robby C 1/22/1996 L 5.10.25 170 Guelph OHL 22 Bleackley, Conner C/RW 2/7/1996 R 6.00.25 192 Red Deer WHL 23 Kempe, Adrian C 9/13/1996 L 6.01.5 187 Modo SweE 24 Scherbak, Nikita LW 12/30/1995 L 6.01 175 Saskatoon WHL 25 Karlsson, Anton LW 8/3/1996 L 6.01 187 Mora SweAl 26 Kamenev, Vladislav C 8/12/1996 L 6.02 198 Magnitogorsk RusJr 27 Pastrnak, David LW 5/25/1996 R 6.00 167 Sodertalje SweAl 28 Chatham, Connor RW 10/30/1995 R 6.02 222 Plymouth OHL 29 MacInnis, Ryan LW 2/14/1996 L 6.03.25 183 Kitchener OHL 30 Peters, Alex D 7/2/1996 L 6.03.25 207 Plymouth OHL
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I hope we do take Ho Sang in the draft, just to see the meltdown on CDC.
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Kassian Jensen grenier are a lot more promising than the guys we have on the left side... Shinkaruk plays left but the drop off is pretty sad unless you include gaunce. What side does fox play?... Lol as I typed that I couldn't help but think of that dumb song
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Always go out swingin.
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You'd have to think if we actually make the playoffs we'll be on one hell of a roll. Momentum on our side and playing to our potential, we could squeeze out the upset in the first round. Screw the draft pick, I'd rather cheer on the Cinderella story. If we blow it and get bounced, oh well. Draft sonny milano Hey so you live in mackenzie by any chance? Just a guess from your username