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Just now, RUPERTKBD said:
Of course you can. I'm a huge fan of the Bills and whoever is playing the Patsies....
Is that being a fan of multiple teams or just hating the Pats to the max? (BTW I completely understand hating that dog poop franchise)
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6 minutes ago, HerrDrFunk said:
Maybe it only works that way for simple people?
Maybe it only works the way you say for crappy "fans"
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22 minutes ago, HerrDrFunk said:
That'd be a case by case basis. You'd have to ask each person how they decide in those situations. However, I imagine some would defer to the team they were a fan of first, some would go with their home team instead and others would just be happy no matter the result of the game/series.
We have this wonderful invention called the internet to use for that. For instance, it was because of YouTube that I found that game where Odjick tried to fight every St. Louis player on the ice!
If they defer to a certain team then that is the team they should have their loyalties with IMO.
As for the internet comment. That doesn't really get into what I was asking. To truly submerge yourself in the pride, history and subculture of a team would make it impossible to do it for another franchise of the same sport. It's contradicting in it's essence. Sure you can watch videos of things in the past and enjoy how cool it was (The Colorado/Red wings fight for example was freakin' epic and as a hockey fan I loved it) But you can't become a fan of those teams for it especially if you already hold ties to another club. It just makes no sense and it's not real fandom IMO. -
1 minute ago, HerrDrFunk said:
You can logically support multiple teams in a 30+ team league. Humans do in fact have the brain power to fanatically support more than one team at a time.
And when these teams face off against each other which is bound to happen where does one put their loyalty? How does someone invest in the subculture and history of multiple organizations?
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4 hours ago, diesel_3 said:
RN4L
Working on getting a Raider fanpage started on FB for BC residents and possibly doing meet ups like the Vancouver Eagles do. Interested?
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2 hours ago, HerrDrFunk said:
What skin off my nose is it if someone is fans of two teams in the same league? It's cheering for two sports teams, not completing a double doctorate.
It's not about the skin off your nose it's about the logic behind it.
It's also about fans like these trash talking to no end when they have no real loyalty to a team. If fair weather fans are going to be fair weather fans that's whatever I guess but when they start trash talking that's when it is over the line for me. -
3 hours ago, timberz21 said:
Maybe, but are you going to choose the same side every time? Maybe Sidney Crosby is my favorite player and in the event that they both meet in the finals, I might side with Pittsburgh....but when he retires and my 2nd best player EP become my new active #1 favorite player. If they would meet again in a final that time I might pick the Canucks. A person's answer might change depending on this particular year's roster.
Your seeing it from a diehard fan perspective...which obviously he can only have one favorite. But other more casual fan, but still true fan, can have a different perspective.
I'm a hardcore hockey and Canucks fan, and in hockey I wouldn't have any other favorite. But i'm also a baseball, basketball and NFL fan, but less intense than hockey. I grew up an Atlanta Braves fan and in the past 5-10 years I've also adopted the Blue Jays. I follow both team evenly. In Football, I always liked the Broncos and Steelers and my preference would depends of the actual condition of the teams if they would ever meet in the playoffs. My answer might change depending on the years.
Yes you must choose a side. Being a fan of a player is different. I think Aaron Rodgers is the most amazing QB in the league to watch and I enjoy seeing what he can do. But I am no Packer and never will be.
I'm seeing things from a true fans perspective. Remember fan is short for fanatic. If you are not a fanatic about your team then they A. aren't your team and B. you are not a fan.
When it comes to your baseball example if it was the Jays vs the Braves who you got? Broncos vs Steelers who you taking? To say it depends on the condition of the team makes you sound like a glory chaser.....do you just pick which team is doing better and go with it? because if that is the case then I would question how you can call yourself a fan TBH.
Not trying to be nasty or pick a fight by any means but unless I am misunderstanding something here this is how it comes across.....
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18 minutes ago, timberz21 said:
Why not?
Of course, you cannot be A Canucks/Flames/Oilers or Habs/Leafs/Bruin fan at the same time. But what's wrong with being a Canucks and Pittsburgh fan at the same time? Chances theses two teams meet in a Stanley Cup final is pretty low (if I remember my math correctly that's 0.42%).
Not everyone is a crazy, bipolar, diehard fan of their team. Doesn't mean they aren't true fan. I think it is possible, it's just less common.
So it's okay to have another team so long as they aren't a conference or division rival is that what you're saying? And what happens if those two teams do me in the playoffs? Eventually aside is going to have to be chosen and therein lies the team that you actually are with.
There are also the points that I made in my initial post explaining why you can't have two teams no matter what Conference or division Etc. I do see where you're coming from though I just have to disagree that's all.
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29 minutes ago, Russ said:
FIrst time I really started watching NFL was back when the Patriots were in their midst of their first superbowl run with Brady, up until then all my dad watches is CFL never NFL, so I sort of latched onto the Pats but regional the Seahawks were there and got a decent amount of coverage around here so I started watching both pretty intensely and with both generally playing at different times (10am vs 1 pm) I was able to watch and enjoy both games quite a bit so I sort of latched onto 2 teams in the league.
You mean when that turd FUMBLED and was gifted a tuck rule call??
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3 minutes ago, BrockBoester said:
I guess there's always the CFL
I grew up die hard with the Lions but the league lost me as a fan a long long time ago. A combination of my much deeper love for NFL football and my displeasure with the CFL over time had me lose interest.
I still pay attention to what happens with the league but I don't much care who wins what and I cant remember the last time I did....Probably Damon Allen era?
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Just now, 48MPHSlapShot said:
I think it depends on the situation. If you’re just an objective fan of the sport, without a home team to root for, I think it’s absolutely possible.
However, if one of the teams you root for is your home team, I feel like that team is probably always going to take precedence over any other team.
So in the case of the NFL where in Canada we have no team then what? Are we all forced into an objective fan column?
I mean I'm not from Oakland but I bleed Silver&Black.
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Having this debate with a friend of mine.
He is a fan of two NFL teams and I personally think it's trash. In our debates about this I often end up labeling him a 'Jersey fan'/bandwagoner/fairweather etc. Call it what you will but I have zero respect for the idea that someone can have two teams in one league. I don't think he can actually call himself a real fan of either squad.
Why?
Because sports is all about buying into a subculture. It's about aligning yourself with the identity of a franchise, who they are and what they represent. It's about buy-in, devotion and loyalty. Being with your team for both the highs and the lows. Unwavering support and pride no matter what happens. One clan above all else.
You can't have this when you fly two flags. It's impossible.
His argument is when he started following the league (NFL in this case) he picked two teams and those are his clubs. Since he is from Europe originally I asked if one could be a Man U fan and a Chelsea fan? He claims that's different but didn't really give me a reason why other than people get assaulted and even killed for that over there (see Celtic vs Rangers for example)
I can get that some people appreciate a specific player or a team but at the end of the day your loyalty has to take a single side or no side at all.
Am I out to lunch? What say you? Hoping to get explanations as well as votes from those who chime in. Cheers.
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Nothing was more beautiful this weekend than watching Khalil Mack on his stomach as one of the first round picks he was traded for in Josh Jacobs runs the ball in for a touchdown.
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1 hour ago, canuck73_3 said:
I always loved the cocky guys that ask for the best price for a used car 15 seconds after getting on the lot.
You're not even going to drive it and make sure it is worth an offer? If I give you this “best price” are you going to buy it on the spot without even looking at accident/service history? Then you tell me you're educated and too smart to get screwed by a dealer.
Honestly at dealerships I worked for people with that attitude got hosed the most and smugly walked away thinking they got a great deal more often than not. Or they're offers were so ridiculous they left mad cause they couldn't get a $35,000 car for $21,000 cause of their “smooth” negotiating skills.
We have a saying in the industry: those who pay more are always happier and it really is true. Do they maybe spend a few hundred to $1,000 more than the guy that kicks screams and cries until he beats the dealership in to borderline submission? Yes yes he does. But there is a true difference in experience between those two types of clients. This type of client is the type dealerships get excited about servicing because it's truly an enjoyable experience for both parties. This is the type of client that gets the goodies and the extras and bumped to the front of the line for service because they respect the employee Justice we respect the client.
I have no shame in admitting that if you walk into my store treating me like a criminal or some type of jerk that is lower than you I will do everything in my power to get every dollar out of your wallet and I will not make any strides to provide you with exceptional service. You get what you pay for at my store.
Also it's become very clear to me over the years that the type of people that need to nickel and dimed dealerships to no end are the type of people who are simply Never Satisfied no matter what the outcome. They are the type of people who have to find something to cry and moan about because it's the only thing they know how to do and I feel bad for these people but I refuse to allow myself or my staff to be walked on by them. They are very small and weak people and that is why they have to act this way. They are the same type of people who berate an employee at McDonald's because their order took an extra 30 seconds or the fries were an overflowing in their take out bag.
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5 hours ago, theo5789 said:
I wanted to be loyal to my dealership where I bought my vehicle. However, the cost for a simple oil and filter change was nearly triple of the body shop that I liked near me. I couldn't really justify the price difference. There was an aside that location-wise, the dealership had nothing around and would take hours to get the job done (again for an oil change with a booked appointment, but they booked everyone at the same time and it became first come first serve basically) while the bodyshop was right next to a bunch of amenities that made time go by faster and they were done much quicker anyway than the dealership for service. In my opinion aside from all this, I would've basically paid that extra amount into the service that even if they "rewarded" me, it was simply due to me paying for it (or most of it) up front as it is so I can't really say it's a "reward". I did have a problem recently and my warranty was up like a couple of months prior and they played the warranty card. Now maybe it's because I had stopped servicing the vehicle there, but I don't know if they would've given me the benefit of the doubt otherwise and pushed things through anyway. The problem actually fixed itself (so I'm not complaining), but who knows what they would've charged me although there was going to be a fee just to look at the vehicle had I brought it in.
Other dealerships that I've been told do little things like offer a free car wash with service or have annual gifts (small things like a snowbrush or whatever). It's little things, but better than nothing.
Anyway, just curious if I'm missing something here where maybe I should have stuck with the dealership for service. It was a Jeep also btw. Perhaps if I wanted to buy a vehicle again from them in the future, it may help me as well, but at the same time, I don't think I'll be purchasing again from there anyway. I like the vehicle, just haven't appreciated the service or felt like they would've rewarded loyalty anyway.
This sucks hearing that you had this kind of experience at what is supposed to be a professional dealership. It is absolutely no secret that you pay a premium for anything at a dealership but with that being said there is supposed to be justifiable reasons behind that.
You're supposed to have a great and comfortable experience whether that's a really nice waiting area, a free car wash and vacuuming included, maybe a snack..... The sky is really the limit it's just up to the creativity of the dealer and how they truly value you as a client. You also pay for the fact that you are dealing with professional Red Seal mechanics as opposed to some seventeen-year-old at Jiffy Lube who barely knows the difference between spark plugs and glow plugs.
I can't really answer your question unbiasedly about sticking with that dealership because you are talking with someone who, whether they sold Ford or not, absolutely despises anything Dodge, Ram, Jeep or Chrysler. I find them to be very subpar products and the company does not have safety in mind when designing their vehicles. I am sure there are some that would strongly disagree with me but those are my beliefs and I feel strongly about them.
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10 minutes ago, Tortorella's Rant said:
They extended the power train warranty for me already for free for 5 years which covers the engine.
Do you think the extended warranty is worth purchasing? Maybe it's a mistake asking this because everyone has opinions as just mentioned. I'm inclined to pass on it because I'm already a thousand over what I was "OK" with spending. It's three years 60,000KM which covers anything and everything for about $2,000 with a $50-$100 deductible. Plus, dealerships sell extended warranties with the intention of making money - most people who buy these do so for peace of mind - if they do use them they don't ever get the actual value.
Guess I'm paying mostly for electronic coverage at that point. I look at my previous repair bills and nothing over the three years that would be covered by this equaled $2,000+ and that was almost a 20 year old car.1. Warranties always cost less than 1 major repair
2. If it's manufacturer warranty why is there a deductible? Is that a Honda thing?
3.You are asking a guy who makes a living off of warranties etc if you should buy one. My opinion is beyond biased. -
1 minute ago, beni said:
60K on our Sante Fe XL and the front end sounds like she's gonna blow.. getting rid of it
Never again!
I've got 700 cars to choose from. IJS.....
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1 minute ago, Tortorella's Rant said:
That's exactly what it is. Remorse, unwilling to spend money. I lost my car of 10 years that cost me nothing to run and I felt sick about having to fork out thousands for a new one. Pretty much everyone does this so I don't know why it bothers me so much. I'm my own worst enemy in that regard, I don't contest that. I don't know why I'm so unwilling and uneasy about spending money on such things. It eats me up and it's not healthy.
Welcome to the world of being human. Our emotions are nuts and take control without considering us at all. It's a hell of a ride though!
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Just now, Tortorella's Rant said:
For the record I'm not unhappy about the purchase. I do believe it's not a bad buy. It's a good car: a 2 year old certified pre-owned Honda hatchback - all new tires and everything too. I went a little over my budget but I guess it's nothing to cry about. I spoke to two people I trust, one being a Honda mechanic of 30 years, and both said it's a great deal/car and you probably won't find much better any time soon. I tried to do all the due diligence possible on this decision because it's a big one.
My concern is that I'm very frugal. I do feel some uneasiness about it about buying this. I don't spoil myself and don't spend a lot of money - especially on a car of all things. So when I see other cars like Hyundai with similar year and mileage going for several thousand dollars less, it's almost like - did I overpay? I could've put the difference in my investment account.
I asked my mechanic about this, the aforementioned Honda expert, and he said you get what you pay for. So while I spent thousands of more dollars on the Honda - if your intention is to drive it until the engine falls out then that is the way to go. Because with Hyundai's for example - these are Korean electronics and steel and the quality over the long run just isn't there. Hondas are known for their reliability and durability for a reason.
Then I flip flopped on the decision about fourteen times prior to signing on the dotted line - do I go with something cheaper, possibly much cheaper, and hope everything works out or go with the Honda, pay more, and call it a day? I kept reading articles and forum posts about used cars and how much to spend and everyone has an opinion on this subject so it was my fault for doing that. I felt good about the buy, then uneasy, then good, then uneasy, now I'm so-so about it.Sounds to me like you suffer from buyer's remorse...just an intensified version of. It's fairly common in auto sales. The fact that you flip flopped as much as you say you did leads me to believe you are one of those client's that is their own worst enemy (no insult intended). I think you might need to step back and reevaluate the situation. It sounds like you got a good car at a fair price and you should be happy with that. The grass is rarely greener on the other side y'know?
And yes as you said, Hyundai/Kia is straight garbage. Also everyone does have an opinion....and they are like buttholes. They almost always stink.-
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4 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:
very similar to the appliance business.
Just to further the discussion a bit, I've been very loyal to where I get my service done. Thats actually got me a long way on negotiations and other issues. E.g., I had a transmission go on a Jeep Liberty and the cause was not initially clear and it could have been linked to poor driving habits (which i don't have, turns out after a lot of forensics it was a super rare master cylinder failure issue). Because I had gone to that dealer for years they gave me the benefit of the doubt right away and fixed it no charge.
Yup, that's a regular thing in our world. We reward loyal clients all the time.
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2 minutes ago, Standing_Tall#37 said:
When I make the 10 hour drive south I often wonder that too. To me a 4x2 truck is completely useless, same with a v6. But southerners seem to have them in abundance. I mean it’s not like they’re loading firewood, or hauling bails with these pavement princess’. Hell, even if the south has more than a few days of snow/year I could understand it.
a 4x2 v6 in the city is ideal for landscapers and small construction jobbers.
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Just now, falcon45ca said:
Champagne taste on a beer budget, it's shocking how common that is in the automotive industry.
In everything man.
People take the bus because they cant afford a car but need the latest IPhone. Can't invest for a damn but have the latest Yeezys and Beats headphones. The majority of people are suckers for peacocking and there will always be someone waiting to profit from their stupidity.-
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Can you truly be a fan of two teams in a single league?
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Who doesn't love seeing Dem Boys get beat down?
Well you would be wrong but okay