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Was in the middle of posting this when I got pulled away for like an hour plus. Hopefully this isn't completely useless now.
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On one hand, I'm having a hard time understanding the motivation for Town!MR to fake soft claim tracker. Maybe I'm just out of touch with all the advanced strategies employed on other boards, but I don't know why he'd do that unless he was providing cover for the real tracker. We didn't even know there was a tracker in the game at that point, so it seems far more likely (to me) that he was fishing for town cred.
On the other hand, I really like Shiznak as a target and I think there's a very good chance he flips scum.
I could be persuaded either way. You guys seem to have a better handle on the state of the game than I do at the moment.
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36 minutes ago, Intoewsables said:
SS didn't post during the J-23/NIK chaos leading up to nightfall, but if he was following along, I suspect he'd also switch to NIK to help save J-23 if they were teammates. Less confident in this because SS wasn't posting at the time, but I think I'd keep J-23 alive for now unless there's something damning that I've missed.
Just realized this is really stupid. If SS is there at nightfall, he almost certainly moves the kill off of NIK and tries to mislynch him.
Most likely scenario is that SS wasn't around for nightfall and this is NAI on J-23.
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16 minutes ago, Aladeen said:
Lol wait, MR claimed tracker? I'll ISO him in a few minutes.
Btw @Zfetch, have you shared your other results?
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Accidentally included WW in both buckets. I'll leave him in my second bucket for now.
Thoughts on yeeting either Melvin or Shiznak tonight? I'm open to anyone in my second bucket as well.
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(Making the assumption that all claimed roles are legit)
On 9/22/2023 at 12:10 AM, Blue Jay 22 said:Final Round 1 Vote Count:
Qwags (4) - Lewitelli, Boknows, Time Lord, Aladeen
Snake Doctor (3) - Beluga Whale, Ilunga, Alchemy Time
Naslund.is.King (2) - J23, luckylager
Intoews (2) - Jazz, Zfetch
Time Lord (1) - Tanev
Aladeen (1) - Ilduce
Beluga Whale (1) - Snake Doctor
Master Radishes (1) - Shiznak
Sharpshooter (1) - NIK
Extend (3) - Where's Wellwood, Intoews, Master Radishes
No Vote (5) - Qwags, Falcon, Porscha, SS, Coconuts
@Qwags you are set to be lynched! You may have your final words…
Nightfall will be later tonight…
Based on this, I'm guessing we have at least two scum within [Porscha/Melvin, Where's Wellwood, Master Radishes, Shiznak].
On 9/23/2023 at 12:07 AM, Blue Jay 22 said:Final Round 2 Vote Count:
J23 (5) - luckylager, ilunga, Alchemy Time, Ilduce39, Aladeen
Naslund.is.King (5) - Boknows, Where's Wellwood, Time Lord, Intoews, Zfetch
Snake Doctor (2) - Master Radishes, Tanev
Alchemy Time (2) - J23, Jazz
Aladeen (1) - Naslund.is.King
Lewitelli (1) - Sharpshooter
Luckylager (1) - Snake Doctor
Master Radishes (1) - Shiznak
No Votes (3) - Falcon, Lewitelli, Porscha
We have a tie vote! J23 and Naslund is King will be up for Lynch A if they survive nightfall.
@Porscha and @falcon45ca have failed to vote in consecutive rounds. As a result, @AngryElf and @DarthMelvin will be subbing in for them should they survive nightfall.
Nightfall Report coming up.
SS was going hard after NIK an hour before nightfall, when NIK and Aladeen were the two leading wagons. Have to think SS switches to NIK if him and Aladeen are teammates, as he would have given himself sufficient cover to do so. Pretty comfortable clearing Aladeen at least for now.
SS didn't post during the J-23/NIK chaos leading up to nightfall, but if he was following along, I suspect he'd also switch to NIK to help save J-23 if they were teammates. Less confident in this because SS wasn't posting at the time, but I think I'd keep J-23 alive for now unless there's something damning that I've missed.
Again, I suspect many scum were either no votes or hiding off of the main wagons. Likely a scum within [Porscha/Melvin, Shiznak] IMO.
18 hours ago, Blue Jay 22 said:Final Round 3 Vote Count:
Boknows (6) - Ilunga, Tanev, Time Lord, Aladeen, luckylager, ilduce39
ilduce39 (3) - Master Radishes, J23, Zfetch
Luckylager (2) - Snake Doctor, Intoews
Alchemy Time (1) - Jazz
Ilunga (1) - Boknows
Tanev (1) - Alchemy Time
No Votes (5) - AngryElf, shiznak, Where's Wellwood, DarthMelvin, Sharpshooter,
@BoKnows you are set to be lynched! You may have your final words.
Nightfall will be late late tonight.
Guessing this is the same as earlier rounds where it's mostly town voting town on the main wagons. Mafia likely hiding in random votes or not voting.
I think if we lynch and vig two of [Porscha/Melvin, Where's Wellwood, Shiznak], we come out looking good tonight. [Jazz, Alchemy Time, Master Radishes, Where's Wellwood, Ilunga] likely has a couple scum but I'm less sure on those ones.
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3 minutes ago, luckylager said:
No one is working harder than ME to solve this game. Get bent
Not sure why you're getting so upset about this lmao. Chill.
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43 minutes ago, Time Lord said:
lucky - very likely TP
Ilunga - need more info
ilduce - confirmed TP
Aladeen - fairly likely TP
Zfetch - basically confirmed TP in my mind, not really feeling the tinfoil theory on him
Toews - confirmed TP
AE - confirmed 3P
MR - not sure
AT - likely TP
shiznak - not sure
WW - had a TP lean but not sure anymore
Time Lord - confirmed TP
DM - not surejazz - not sure
SD - confirmed TP
J-23 - not sureso yeah my mafia leans on jazz and shiznak were never really that strong to begin with and I don't have any true mafia leans now, just feels like we need to keep eliminating the unknown people
You and a few others seem very confident in lucky being town. Help me see what you're seeing. This game gets a lot easier if I can set aside my LL/Aladeen paranoia.
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55 minutes ago, Time Lord said:
Ok screw it I'm doing it
I am the sheriff!!!
N0 - SD (town)
N1 - Tanev (town)
N2 - AngryElf (3P)
N3 - Toews (town)
Nice. I think we're in a really good position here now.
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I think I need to stick with my gut here. SS was giving me major scum vibes and I was right. Ilunga is giving me major scum vibes and he fits well into the slanker theory.
Vote Ilunga
@Aladeen I think I see your point on MR, but Ilunga feels like a safer target to me. I can be persuaded on this though so feel free to make a good argument. I'll be back later to think it over a bit more.
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6 minutes ago, Aladeen said:
Lol he falls into his own “speculation” on why the scum team was playing how they have been ffs.
Can you explain this a bit more? My spidey senses are telling me you're making an important point, but my hangover is making it hard to comprehend lmao
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3 minutes ago, Aladeen said:
Lol he falls into his own “speculation” on why the scum team was playing how they have been ffs.
I do find it weird that Ilunga's only contribution to the thread is talking this out with MR. Feels a bit like wolf/wolf.
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46 minutes ago, Zfetch said:
Sheriff should also come out about now. Mafia appear to be on to me, know about Ilduce, you’re next… clearing 2-3 people is ideal right about now and would help Ilduce out
I agree with this. The number of slankers in this game makes a PoE pretty much impossible. We need more info.
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FWIW, lucky getting super butthurt over me scum reading him -- especially when no one else in the town seems to care -- is well within his scum meta.
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4 minutes ago, Alchemy Time said:
how would this work?
Maybe a N0 check? It's also possible the mafia just took out BW because he could be a dangerous townie and they lucked out on him being 3P.
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Also worth mentioning that MR belongs in the PoE of an SS + slankers universe since he wouldn't have been around to change the MK on NIK on N2.
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3 minutes ago, luckylager said:
Not true at all, I called out SS right away.
But now I must go back and verify your claim,because I don't remrmber you mention SS at all. Your reads have been tunneled on me the entire game and they haven't developed or expanded beyond that. Your inability to explore the game beyond me is starting to feel really scummy.
This is a very incorrect characterization of my game so far but I don't know if it's derp town or scummy tbh.
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On 9/23/2023 at 12:07 AM, Blue Jay 22 said:
Final Round 2 Vote Count:
J23 (5) - luckylager, ilunga, Alchemy Time, Ilduce39, Aladeen
Naslund.is.King (5) - Boknows, Where's Wellwood, Time Lord, Intoews, Zfetch
Snake Doctor (2) - Master Radishes, Tanev
Alchemy Time (2) - J23, Jazz
Aladeen (1) - Naslund.is.King
Lewitelli (1) - Sharpshooter
Luckylager (1) - Snake Doctor
Master Radishes (1) - Shiznak
No Votes (3) - Falcon, Lewitelli, Porscha
We have a tie vote! J23 and Naslund is King will be up for Lynch A if they survive nightfall.
@Porscha and @falcon45ca have failed to vote in consecutive rounds. As a result, @AngryElf and @DarthMelvin will be subbing in for them should they survive nightfall.
Nightfall Report coming up.
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5 hours ago, Master Radishes said:
Not quoting all posts because not-clogging-up-thread and whatnot. I'm reading D2 in the mid-20s page range.
SS and SD have enough back and forth that maybe they're not teammates? Mafia partners tend to be more likely to avoid too much convo in thread because something something distancing.
Intoewsables dances around suspicion on SS a fair bit. I don't think it's hard enough to be not paired, and might just be Toewsy looking for a safe place to distance. But SS doesn't really acknowledge it so if so it's not coordinated. Maybe Toews just had a good ping.
There are a couple little things that make me go 'hmm' at Aladeen, but I don't want to start that again just yet. Might be nothing.
I am deeply offended by this. I wanted to yeet SS on day one but none of you potatoes agreed.
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Also seems likely that the Mafia have an investigative role based on some of their targets. BW on night one is understandable if he was more active, but my guess is they investigated him and saw he was 3P and felt he had to go. I don't know how they landed on investigating Tanev, but that would explain taking him out too.
I just can't shake the feeling that they took out NIK because he was 3/3 on his SS/LL/Aladeen reads.
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SS + slankers is a good theory based on how N2 unfolded. The fact that the Mafia targeted NIK when he was that close to being lynched gives that theory a lot of credibility. Ilunga being part of that team fits nicely for me given how his earlier posts threw up a lot of red flags imo.
I still have some worries about a potential LL/Aladeen scum pairing, but it's looking a bit less likely than SS + slankers after the last couple of pages.
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Okay I'm suddenly feeling way better about my reads after last night. Thank you ilduce love you bb
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13 minutes ago, ilduce39 said:
If SS flips scum, I love you so much.
If SS flips town, I never doubted him for a second and our vig is an idiot!!!
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Hope you guys are right. As far as I can remember, BK being inactive and unhelpful is NAI.
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unvote; vote Shiznak
(can't remember where I previously parked my vote)
Hopefully Melvin gets GKed today and flips scum.