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  1. Yeah I'm losing track on who's expectations that we should be winning more now and making the playoffs or those who think we should tank longer to get more top picks. Almost feels like the same group. Everything has to be so extreme when really we have have steadily built a pretty darn good team. I think people forget that yes we have signed some UFAs that could look better than their price tag (if ignoring the value of what they would do for our young new core), but they are acquired for free (other than Aquilini's money). We have actually unloaded vets from the old core for picks and prospects (eg Burrows, Hansen, Lack, Bieksa, Garrison, etc). We have made the full allotment of picks that we would've over the years and made many of them count. So we could've kept the old core to insulate the youth, but they were expiring before we could get to the next core and thus Benning bought us more time with the signings and moving some picks to fill some gaps. Some of these moves didn't make sense at the time, but they are magnified now in the direction that we have gone. Despite many calling Benning Dim Jim, it seems like he had a plan all along while appeasing to the Sedins (and ownership) and building the future in short order. I think many dislike him because he isn't some used car salesman trying to sell us on the plan, he simply makes it happen. I hope he gets to see thing through and if he doesn't, the next GM is simply getting handed the keys to a well oiled machine unlike what Benning got.
  2. Well I don't think it was a "throw-in" because that just makes it sounds like Benning simply gave that to them for no good reason. Perhaps they could've negotiated down (if that wasn't already a negotiated deal already), but a 3rd isn't much to worry over considering the odds of that pick being a significant player.
  3. A point that we are on the brink of making it moot. Of course then we hear the complaints that if we make the playoffs that it's supposedly "too early" and we are simply facing mediocrity. Longest playoff drought in franchise history is overly dramatic considering it's only been 4 years (this year han't been concluded) and compare that to some real droughts in the league. It just goes to show how spoiled we have been that even though there are a lot of positives signs to this team, there is too much impatience. Then we have the crowd that thinks we shouldn't even be trying for the playoffs for a couple more years because we are supposedly a couple of young 1st picks away from being real contenders. Can't please everyone it seems. We have trended up the last 3 or so seasons and arguably the "rebuild" started a couple of years after Benning had joined and around when the Sedins retired. We have one of the most exciting teams we have seen in a while and all of our youth haven't even arrived yet.
  4. I rarely listen to 1040, but hearing these guys through twitter or whatever really only makes appreciate more in the direction of this team because imagine if these guys were running the show instead. For management to ignore media/public pressure and make decisions that actually have been positive to the team despite going against them most of the time takes confidence in what they're doing. I get the feeling even if we win the Cup, they'll still complain about how they would've wanted us to win in a different way or something. They would give credit to say Linden instead suggesting he was the one who brought Benning in because they refuse to give JB an ounce of credit (we are already seeing this with the whole Brackett thing which leads back to this thread).
  5. The expansion was set up to get them a decent team as soon as possible. Teams made mistakes trying to protect certain players and gifted Vegas even more. I think many teams will learn this time around (surely some won't though) and Seattle won't be at as big of an advantage this time around. What the spending has done bringing in those vets that you have mentioned is to insulate the youth and give them competition for players to beat out (although the moves made in the first couple of years of Benning's tenure was to try and remain competitive with the Sedins to try and give them another go in the playoffs, but that shifted when they retired). Without this insulation from the vets (spending money), we could've seen our team in the direction of Buffalo or Edmonton considering the prospect pool was bare when JB joined and our top players were mostly on the way out. The notion of remaining "competitive" is that we didn't want to build a losing culture. It was always headed towards a rebuild, so some bad seasons had to be expected. We are bouncing back in relatively short order, our prospect pool is rich and expensive contracts will come off the books as soon as some of the youth need raises. We would've been fine had the cap continued to rise, so we have a bit of a snag with the cap, but it's not as bad as it's being made out to seem. Perhaps we lose a luxury piece like Toffoli, but we will be able to get most of the team locked up and still have an influx of youth coming in over the years to offset some contracts. Of course moves will be made and tough decisions on good players will be decided, but these are the signs of a good team. We are headed in the right direction over the last few years and continue to do so, there is no reason to blow things up and start over again.
  6. I think any result is positive at this point. Lose the play-in, get a top 15 pick (with a slight chance at 1st overall) and get some semi-playoff experience. Win the play-in, more playoff experience and assessment the further we go and we can move on from the Miller trade giving NJ a 16-31 pick. Win the Cup, as you've said "pandemonium".
  7. There is also the risk that you play the negotiation game and they decide to explore other options and you lose your target player. Sometimes you assess the value and if you're comfortable making the deal, then you go for it rather than missing out altogether. A 3rd is not something that I would be crying over considering the percentages of the pick working out. Another example to demonstrate this is the Toffoli trade. Many are upset about losing Madden, but look at the other deadline day deals. We actually got very good value for arguably the best "rental" at the time because we made the move early and didn't play games and wait (also we didn't want to announce Boeser's injury before making the deal having us lose leverage), whereas if we did, a bidding war may have started and bumped up his trade value. In today's NHL, most teams make hockey trades and it's rare that GMs are looking to fleece one another. It's also feasible that they wanted a prospect back or a 2nd and we did indeed negotiate it down.
  8. Since we are quoting JD Burke as truth: I can't find the one where he doubled down on this saying that it didn't matter how Miller performed and that he will always believe this was a bad trade. That was a gem as well.
  9. Gotta say that's a bit of a surprise. I guess there is more risk in that Toronto could have some breakout/leak into the bubble that would end all of this early.
  10. This is the first I've heard of Lorne Henning's name mentioned. Care to share the source? https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/31628/lorne-henning This would suggest Henning wasn't even employed by Vancouver since the 2014-2015 season. Are you confusing Inge Hammarstrom for him? He is also gone, but likely due to retirement (and giving us a retirement gift on the way out) and not us forcing him out.
  11. No he selected well because Brackett had to wrestle him to stop making all of the bad picks. Every good pick was Brackett and only Brackett winning the fight. All of the scouts backed Brackett and also stepped up in stopping the terror that Benning was causing to the draft. Get with the times man!
  12. The players will be excited to win the Cup regardless. If it's crickets, then it would be like winning on the road or in Florida/Arizona. As for the fans, surely there will be celebrations. Whether people will banging pots and pans from their balconies, driving through the streets pumping their horns with their car flags, or the inevitable spilling into downtown of people celebrating (those that are going to ignore pandemic rules anyway), it will still be a pretty wild party in Vancouver should we win. Just like winning on the road, everyone will be watch from their TVs anyway. Bars and restaurants would be open, just not as packed. The atmosphere will still be there. There is never a reason why we wouldn't want the Canucks to not win a Stanley Cup.
  13. As I said, he rightfully could have asked for it, but that doesn't mean we had to give him it. We had a system in place that involved others above him as well. Call it whatever you want, but it was working and no it wasn't solely on Brackett getting all the good picks. Most GMs do not have the background that Benning has towards scouting and that is something that he has revamped when he got here knowing the importance of the draft. Just because the majority of the league runs a certain way doesn't mean it's the only way and clearly the way we had things set up was working. Brackett wanted more power, Benning didn't want to give it up, so Brackett finds a place where he gets what he wants and Benning gets what he wants. Both sides win. Results to come, but no reason to think that our drafting will suddenly collapse with Brackett's departure considering Benning is the one that implemented the system that even Brackett himself has given praise to. With that said, I've beaten the dead horse over the Pettersson pick many times. If Benning "lost" the argument towards Benning, then why was he so damn excited about EP on the draft floor pointing at him and blowing our cover to trade down a pick and gain an asset while getting our target player? I could see Benning may have wanted Glass (was the consensus BPA at our pick on most draft boards, the blasphemy) at one point during the draft talks and was convinced otherwise. This is why they have their draft meetings and it shows Benning listens to his team rather than being some dictator that supposedly only makes the bad calls. I doubt draft meetings are about picking sides like some elementary school gym class, but rather a discussion of all players involved and coming to a consensus on a draft list. Besides, Benning has said that it was DeLorme who was the loud voice pushing for Pettersson, so Brackett may have been on the Glass bandwagon as well, who knows? All we know is that Benning was already decided on EP and he wanted EP as well come draft time and he made the right final call there as it's his head on the chopping block if it's the wrong pick.
  14. If Minni makes a bad pick, surely it's simply Benning's stench that hasn't rubbed off of Brackett yet.
  15. Weisbrod has connections in those areas as well, so hard to pinpoint exactly.
  16. The 'best scouting talent we've had" didn't have full control and yet our drafting was doing quite fine. It sounds like things were actually working well prior to Brackett's decision to want more say (and rightfully so). Management didn't want this and now Brackett has found a place where he gets what we want. We are simply without Brackett but we will continue to move on, so unless Brackett had hidden draft crystal balls that he was hiding from management, all sides simply have gotten what they wanted in the end. How this changes the outlook of the draft for both teams remains to be seen, but I suspect it pretty much remains the same for everyone where some picks work out and some picks don't.
  17. Would be fine with Manson, but just feel like Buffalo is more in a desperation mode and could more easily be taken advantage of. Plus more risk could be taken due to it be a West-East trade versus a divisional trade. With that said, I think Risto isn't really going to be a reality, but just a top 4 RD that could be available that I would like. The most likely scenario is we simply add Tryamkin and he fits the bill as you suggest. However, with that said, I don't think Risto is as much of a liability on defense as some would like believe. He is depended to be their top defensive and offensive guy at times on what has been a piss poor team for years. He's basically an Edler type of player to me (and Edler had some really piss poor +/- in our bad years as well which people also nitpicked on). His role would be reduced here and be more balanced, but I suspect his defensive stats would have a nice uptick here. I think a right side of Risto, Myers and Tryamkin would be intimidating on both ends of the rink.
  18. Many "Canucks fans" here on CDC were already cheering on the Wild prior to this news so we could get a 12.5% chance at the 1st overall.
  19. Guerin reminds me of a sleazy used car salesman. I'm sure he can sell to the owners of his plan to stick around for a little while longer.
  20. Wanted more autonomy over the draft, he gets it in Minni where their GM (and most of their management) has little experience in this field.
  21. Can't wait to hear what Taj (and the rest of gang) has to say about this!
  22. Is it really a surprise that spending is higher? Inflation from then to now would take into account most of that increase. Pandemics are expensive and the next one will cost more than this one surely.
  23. A GM with no amateur scouting experience hires a guy that wants the autonomy of the draft. Seems like a smart fit. The AGM that was in charge temporarily also had very little background in amateur scouting. Brackett will have a lot of control here and that's what he wanted.
  24. Using the depth (black aces) will be more critical this year than ever before. With so many games congested, you gotta keep bodies healthy. Strategic coaching and deployment (on top of who gets hot the fastest) will be critical. This doesn't really differ from other playoff years, but I think teams will be dipping into their depth much more. The teams that have a bye from the play in would seem to have an advantage, but the play in teams will be more into by the time they face them and which will likely take away any skill advantage the top teams had. Teams that can sweep the play in series are the teams I'd watch for that will be pushing for the Cup IMO as they will have things in gear and have those extra games on hand over the next round plus suffering the least mileage and potential injury and can rest for the next round. If they do beat one of the bye teams, then that momentum should continue to carry them. Has it been determined where the finals will be played? The team that has to travel will be at a disadvantage to readjust to the new hub and worry about the travel conditions and lose some practice time. I assume it'll be in Toronto and the Stanley Cup is likely there already.
  25. "The contract is four years at US$3.5 million per season, with a no-movement clause for the first two years, then a modified no-trade clause for the final two. Ferland has also reportedly agreed to be exposed to the Seattle expansion draft in 2021." https://theprovince.com/sports/hockey/nhl/vancouver-canucks/cap-crunched-canucks-sign-skilled-pest-micheal-ferland
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