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  1. Ok, if you would like to believe that there was bidding war for Myers, then by all means.
  2. Beyond the one comment I made to you (one that you insist made you laugh and didn't hurt you), I haven't been personal at all. In addition to this quote, you've told me to"log off", you're saying I'm losing my mind, etc. You're teetering towards personal comments and that's not a good look. I think you need calm down here before you say something you might regret. Just looking out, bud.
  3. What's the point of this comment? If in 6 years of being on the job you can't meet certain needs, that's on you, not your predecessor. Imagine if I started blaming Nonis and Burke for Gillis's failures in making the playoffs in 2014? Imagine how foolish that would be. Lol. Trust me when I say this but nobody, and I mean nobody, was lining up to sign Tyler Myers to the contract he was signed to. Just like nobody beyond Florida was lining up to sign Bobrovsky to a 7x10M. This isn't about supply and demand. This is about recognizing about not overpaying for average players.
  4. He's saying that Myers made 5.5M which is why he needed to earn more. I gave an example as to why that line of thinking makes no sense.
  5. Lol. Benning has been the GM of the team since 2014. If his defence in 2020 sucks, that's on him, not Gillis.
  6. That doesn't mean anything. It says more about how bad the Canucks defence really is if anything.
  7. So, should a team in two years offer Eriksson 6.5M because he made 6M on his last contract?
  8. Are you saying they wouldn't have been able to pump their numbers in Vancouver? Like, did the Thomas Vanek in Vancouver thing not happen or something?
  9. Ok but is he worth 6x6M? Would other teams pay that?
  10. Because literally everybody in the NHL knows he's a bottom-pairing defender. He's a useful player, just not at 6M and 6 years.
  11. Doesn't matter if they would sign or not. The point is that you can offer similar free-agents of the same nature /same clout to those type of deals.
  12. Lol. You must have missed the part where those FAs TOOK LESS MONEY to come and play. Who took less money to play for Benning's Canucks?
  13. I, along with every other sensible fan, would take Namestnikov at 2x2M over Beagle/Roussel at 4x3M, Merrill at 1x1M over Benn at 2x2M, and Stetcher at 2x1.7M over Myers at 6x6M, especially if you're a rebuilding team.
  14. If you're trying to imply that Schenn, Bogosian, Cullen, etc would have earned 3M elsewhere on a "non-contending" team, I don't know what to tell you.
  15. Minnesota releases: Ben Bishop Derek Grant Dmitry Kulikov Zach Bogosian Anton Stralman
  16. Quality in what they bring to the table. Eriksson was a 60 point guy and arguably the best two-way winger after Marian Hossa for a good while. Him getting 6M was a decent deal because other teams would have paid just as much if he was interested in going there. Beagle and Roussel may have been great energy guys and beloved locker room people but you don't commit so much of your cap to those guys. All that the second paragraph proves is that Jim Benning's been a very lucky to guy to have been given the amount of backing and leniency he has from ownership. GMs don't normally get 6+ years to try their hand at success. They haven't in this market in the past and they haven't elsewhere. Again, that's a luxury to ask for Benning. Gillis knew it was time to rebuild and wasn't given time for it. Nonis only had three seasons and barely had time to see how his Luongo acquisition would work. Same with Burke and the Sedins. Ideally, all GMs should be given time to see how their teams come together but that's not how it works. Lol I have no idea what you're talking about. Anyways, my point is that you can acquire character/depth/bottom six guys without mortgaging the rest of your team. Every team is able to that and we haven't. If Pittsburgh and Tampa Bay are bad examples, then look at Detroit and the contracts they just gave out to Stetcher/Namestnikov/Merrill. Hardly "plugs" and hardly guys that will screw them over cap-wise.
  17. The extra 500ks add up though. Shave off 500k from Myers, Beagle, Roussel, etc and you can get a pretty decent player at an affordable price from the cap space you save. For example, Nick Cousins had a great year and followed that up by having a great playoffs, including a fairly chippy series against us. He just signed for 2 years at 1.5M million in Nashville. That's a great value signing for the bottom six. He'll get Nashville around 20 ish points, be able to play in all situations, etc but he won't handicap them from signing their core guys. That's responsible. Same thing with Florida and Carter Verhagae. Many more just from this off-season.
  18. I think I forgot to respond to this. Anways, I agree with you on the effects of role players, I just don't believe you have to pay 3M+ on these guys, at least not that much on 4-5 of them at a time. Pittsburgh had Matt Cullen making less than 1M during their cup runs. Tampa Bay had just Bogosian, Schenn, Maroon all making around 1M. These guys exist for cheap and don't all need to be signed for tons of money.
  19. I'm well aware of Poile's background. FWIW, I wasn't comparing the two. I was just saying to Deb that its not me brining up other GMs.
  20. Hello folks. I've been entertaining the Benning bros for much of today and kinda neglected this. Who to vote for? I think I'm on Zfetch, not sure.
  21. So excuses pretty much. Forgot that he "had" to overpay for Beagle/Roussel and couldn't have found cheaper alternatives, you know, like other GMs do.
  22. Find me teams where Eriksson wouldn't have been a top 6 forward then. Or, better yet, find me teams (besides us) for Roussel/Beagle/Myers where they would have been more than what they are in this team. All of these players thus far seem to be playing like they were at their previous teams in the same role; the only difference is they make way more than they should be in comparison to others on other teams playing the same roles.
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