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Feel free to post the voting records from 2015 thru 2019 if you believe they may show Benning is better than what I'm giving credit for. That's what discussions are for
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It's not really a knee-jerk reaction. I've stated that there's a pattern to these types of things. Benning knew about what he would be dealing with in Pettersson and Hughes before last off-season. He knew there was a chance for them to be elite performers that would need compensating. His peers had to deal with Marner, Rantanen, Laine, Point, etc all ask for big, big money. Benning himself had to give out 6M to Boeser. Instead of planning for their contracts, he went out and handed big money and term to Myers (who I'm not even that displeased with) after already giving out money and term to Beagle and Roussel the previous year. He followed up Myers by giving 3.5M for 4 years to an infirmary patient in Ferland. To ensure that we will have a chance to re-sign Pettersson and Hughes, we had to walk away from a starting goalie, a decent top-4 defenceman, an exceptional bottom-pairing defenceman, and a top 6 forward (one that we gave away assets for, I might add). We may still have to walk away from Edler and Pearson. When given cap-space, the Benning management has been fairly irresponsible. This isn't a case of the odd-mistake or an unlucky blunder.
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It's not a good measure. All of the GMs thought Don Sweeney was the best GM in 2019 and a year later, only one thought he was worthy of a vote. His Bruins team was statistically higher in the standings during the regular season in 2020 than they were in 2019.
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Why would I choose 2010 when, uhh, Benning wasn't running the team?
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It doesn't matter where we start. Lightning cleared out Lawton and co. when they realized they weren't good enough/could do better. Virtanen and Juolevi were also top 5 picks in Benning's early tenure. Why should we skip them just because he finally hit the jackpot in Pettersson and Hughes?
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Is this supposed to hold weight? Out of curiosity where did Benning rank from 2015-2019? Surely, it might be helpful to see where his mean ranking lies to see if we have a top/bottom 15 GM?
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Since 2010, the Lightning have made the post-season 7 times, including 5 conference finals appearances and 2 Stanley Cup finals. Since 2015 (Benning's first season), the Canucks have made the playoffs 2 times and have not progressed past the 2nd round. In the next five years, Jim Benning-led teams will have to make the conference finals every season to even match this half this stat.
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Bolded: I can give the benefit of the doubt on certain things, such as a pandemic hitting or something more hockey-related such an unexpected Luongo retirement hindering cap-space. I can also present my position (i.e Benning should be fired) and touch on a list of reasons to provide a rationale for why I'm interested in moving on. Both of these things are not mutually exclusive and I'm not sure why you're trying to insinuate that they are. Underlined: I did? Chris Gear. Also, the onus is on the reader because its a discussion and that's how discussions work, no? So many of you peddle this rhetoric that Benning isn't this bad GM and its so unfair to be against him but when presented the opportunity to defend him, but nobody ever actually says what he's good at or why he's positive for this team beyond baseless statements like "he drafted Petey/he drafted Hughes" like as if picking in the top 10 and not screwing up is a good thing, failing to even touch upon that he struck out on Jake and is at risk of striking out on Juolevi in the same position. My position on this matter is that due to many of his mistakes (ones that I briefly outlined in my first paragraph), there are probably candidates out there who may not make these same types of mistakes and it's worth turning our attention towards them to better steer our team into a stable direction.
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For last half decade or so, you can probably count one good thing for every 5 or 6 bad things when it comes to Jim Benning. And sure, being a general manager is harder than looks. Hindsight is 20/20 and things don't always go to plan the way you envisioned (looking at you, Jake Virtanen), but most of why we are in the mess we are in is due to decisions made by this management. Numerous anchor contracts given to bottom six/bottom pairing players, shipping out assets for marginal improvements, countless examples of mismanagement when it comes to the asset value of players, handing out movement protection in virtually every deal, etc. With this I ask: what's stopping us from wanting to do better? Why persist with somebody who gets praised once in a blue moon and usually for doing the bare minimum, such as not matching horrible contracts or saying no to a trade that would be a huge ripoff otherwise? It doesn't matter if we pull out some rabbit from out of our hat (i.e Pietrangelo signing), this off-season is demonstrating - now, more than ever - that there is a clear pattern when it comes to failures and steps backward. After a pretty fortuitous playoff run in the first place, it doesn't look like that will be the case again for this year and maybe into next year. A hockey team with 1 playoff appearance in 5 seasons shouldn't already be in a position where they may miss the playoffs because of reasons related to their front office's inability to build its team. I think there are a lot of decent minds in hockey, both internal (Chris Gear) and external (you can do your own research). I think it's time we remove ourselves from Mr. Benning and go into a different direction But that's just my view. For the Benning supporters and the "Benning bros", what does your saviour offer that other people in the NHL don't?
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Minnesota sends down Mitchell Keller
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Congratulations to Mitchell Keller on his first NHL goal in his first NHL game. We're proud of you <3
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I'll play
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The Minnesota Wild would like to congratulate Artyom Minulin and Zachary Galambos on their first NHL goals.
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The better question to ask is why did fwybwed join 17 years ago but only decided to start positing 5 years ago.
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Everybody cut out this bullying behaviour, you incels!
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Zfetch did well, good job bb! Sorry @Blue Jay 22 and @luckylager
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It's yeet. Gotta remember to use that term.
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Why is Blue Jay 22 making up narratives? I've never used Sharpshooter's lynch as a way to get town credit. Any discussion about his lynch from my end has been used to demonstrate that we aren't partners.
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Blue Jay 22's suspicion of me is based on my "sudden desire to win" rather than any actual evidence that actually makes me scum. He does realize that if my intentions were to win as scum, I don't do it by faking an investigation on my partner and then keeping the best three players (that weren't already dead) alive.
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Lol. I wrote a really lengthy post outlining the events and consequences of the MKs but that isn't a desire to solve the game apparently
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Execept I know that luckylager or myself wouldn't do that. Nobody would make the game harder for themselves unless it was part of some sort of WIFOM scheme.
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The guy who proposed a no-lynch vote isn't even voting no-lynch. Nice. @luckylager @Zfetch Just vote Blue Jay 22 and be done with this. @luckylager If you're somehow mafia, hell of a game. You fooled me. @Zfetch If you're mafia, nicely done. Blue Jay 22 being more scummier worked in your favour.
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[Rumour] Tyler Toffoli to hit free agency
AV. replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
I'm okay with this. We already have Boeser who can't skate for his life, I don't see why we need Toffoli taking up 5M to do the same thing. I like Toffoli but we shouldn't be comitting money and term to him with Pettersson and Hughes not signed. -
You seem to be skipping over the fact that if I was mafia, I would have controlled my own destiny for this F4. I would have just killed Zfetch if I felt he was a threat to me and my "pockets" and kept Qwags since Qwags had never suspected me this game.