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  1. I miss having Burr and yappy Lappy in the lineup, those were fun times Roussel can't get in the lineup fast enough
  2. I don't view this as cancel culture, I see it as a potential culture shift. Some players were treated a certain way and they've begun to speak up about it. It's akin to the stances on concussions that have become more apparent the last ten years or so, hits and actions that were acceptable back in the 90' and 2000's s aren't supposed to be anymore (someone tell the disciplinary jokers). It just seems to be going that way with coaching conduct now. It also comes down to optics, and whether that's fair or not brands and business still take it into consideration. It'll be interesting to see what happens with Babcock, despite all the things that have been said about him he's got 700 wins under his belt and that's compelling.
  3. It's no simple thing, it just isn't. It's a complicated can of worms and there's no simple solution or answer. Should people be punished for a tweet they made ten years ago? I don't have a definitive answer for you. Should someone lose their job for a poor decision or a series of poor decisions? Should sins of the past be judged on present societal ideas of what is and isn't okay? You're going to get different answers relating to different scenarios from all sorts of people. In this case though these are professional coaches working in a very limited pool of jobs associated with what is a global brand, the NHL. These aren't just journeymen and fringe guys speaking up about abuse either, many of these players have had respectable careers and won championships. Some of them were stars. The NHL can't ignore that, and neither can clubs. And they aren't. Calgary was very quick to investigate Peters and handled in in what I thought was a professional manner, they didn't drag him through the mud. Chicago's quickly investigating too and they'll likely take a similar approach. The NHL, the Flames, the Hawks. These are brands and they will protect their interests. And I highly doubt abusing players was socially acceptable ten years ago. Hockey culture is changing, what's expected from coaches will change in turn. I guarantee coaches at all sorts of levels have been paying attention the last couple weeks.
  4. You say that as if time somehow makes the impact disappear for everyone. Did you even read the Franzen bit? So things were different back in your day, fancy that. I'm sure generations prior to yours could say the same thing. Segregation was acceptable at one point, slaves even. Homosexuality was a crime at one point, in some countries it still is. What's socially acceptable changes, you don't have to like it but things change all the same.
  5. That's not tough love, that's abuse by someone in a position of power. Coaches at most levels have a fair bit of power in regards to a player's career, especially when the players are young. They're in frequent communication with GM's, ect. Aliu is a great example of what can go wrong when coaches abuse their power. If you can't coach someone without physically attacking them or being verbally abusive you probably shouldn't be coaching. Being an a coach doesn't give you free reign to be an asshole to players at any level. This idea that players should have to put up with abuse from fellow professionals because they make more money than the average person is bull$&!#. People don't expect perfection from coaches, they're people and they get frustrated. But if you get so frustrated or angry that you resort to attacking people? That's crossing a line. Going back and forth on the ice isn't the same as having to put up with abuse on a consistent basis. The coach controls playing time which impacts a lot of things like production, trade value, whether you stick on the team which in turn impacts finances. It goes on and on. It goes deeper too, more guys are speaking up and I'm glad they are. https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/1896006 https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/1895955
  6. Digging deeper, former NHL defenceman and Spittin’ Chiclets co-host Ryan Whitney asked this question: “Is it true he would go up and down the bench and kick guys?” Sopel replied:
  7. https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/brent-sopel-marc-crawford-canucks-coach It's not just Avery
  8. It's not even close to being what went down with Peters and Aliu, but it's def not okay if true. I just disagree with the idea that it'd somehow be okay because of who Avery is and was as a player.
  9. “I pretty much have one comment and maybe I’ll regret it,” Woo said. “But they can go f*** themselves. That’s what I really think.”
  10. Shower beer, shower beer. Oh shower, shower beer. Shower beer! 

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    2. chon derry
    3. NewbieCanuckFan

      NewbieCanuckFan

      @chon derry  heh, the first thing that came to my mind when I saw your avatar right now....

       

       

    4. Darius

      Darius

      Reminds me of my university days at the CECIL

  11. Could have used Rouss tonight, here's hoping it doesn't take him long to shake off the rust.
  12. I know it's Avery, but if true it's still not okay. Him being a douche doesn't make being kicked by a coach alright. Understandable? Perhaps. Alright? Nah.
  13. First of all, what the &^@# Second of all, what the &^@# It's easy to point fingers at the refs but they really &^@#ed us over tonight with the calls they did (for those diving &^@#ers) make and the calls they didn't (they missed how many Oilers penalties?)
  14. It's games like this that should show those who $&!# on Edler how much we still need him out there
  15. We'd better see some make up calls in the third Those two joke penalties altered this period
  16. It's funny, Oilers fans used to joke about the Vancouver diving team but look at that Edmonton team of theirs now Pathetic
  17. Gotta admire that, most players don't hit 1000 games and very few do it with one team. Lot of people hate Perry, but I still think it's a shame he wasn't able to do that as a Duck.
  18. That's nonsense because GM's, like players, are people and people are complicated. It's easy to load up NHL 20 or whatever, check a guy's stats and be like "nah" after taking in those small pieces of information. You don't do that with an actual person, let alone a player your coaches and other players engage with on an almost daily basis. GM's aren't all knowing hockey wizards and no, they aren't always going to know what's going on in a player's life. There are a lot of very highly functioning people out there with problems you'd never expect them to have.
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