Brad Marchand

Then we'll buy ourselves a new team and build a new arena. 100% serious, I'd rather start from scratch than have to somehow figure out a way to fix this mess.

I wish I was that rich and handsome. If we can somehow get 1 million people to contribute, that would lower the per-person cost to $2000-$3000. Let's see what we can do.

Semi-serious idea - how much would we have to pool together to buy the team? If we could get 100,000 Canucks fans to contribute $20,000 each, would that do it?

The Canucks are trashy reality show more than a hockey team at this point. Only reason I still post here is to make snide jokes at their expense. They've eroded most if not all of their credibility as a professional organization and it's hard to see that changing as long as the same clowns (ownership, management etc.) are still running the circus. I'd care more except I've mostly become apathetic to it.

This team is truly shameless.

Don't get where the talk of Miller being a jerk comes from. Look how genereous he is, giving the puck to the other team all the time.

I don't really care about the losing itself anymore. It's been going on for so long that I've just become used to it. It's everything else: It would be one thing if the team was bad because of young players trying to learn the ropes, but it's the opposite. The expensive, well-paid veterans are consistently underperforming. This is a team that was built to win now and it's doing the exact opposite. Over and over again, we hear about how they have no structure and no consistent work ethic. This team was built to compete now and the fact that it isn't reflects a complete failure from multiple management groups to execute a coherent plan. They aren't losing on purpose. This organization has repeatedly failed to successfully do anything on purpose. Their prospect pool is depleted and this is the best that they have been able to build, which is frankly ridiculous. You have a team president that repeatedly throws his head coach under the bus in the media and publicly leaks hiring his replacement. Then there's all the other drama BS (Doerrie's firing, Pearson's botched hand surgeries, Horvat's contract negotiation etc.) that seems to leak out of the organization on a weekly basis. Every team has turbulence, but it seems this team can't keep a lid on any of it and often creates the drama themselves. There are many conjectures about the owner floating out there, but at the very least, he has been complicit in letting all this happen under his watch. The entire organization is broken from the top down and that's the most demoralizing part. I don't have any faith right now that the people currently in charge are the ones who can fix it.

I'd honestly do it. If all it took was this year's first round pick and one of Hughes or Pettersson, I'd make that trade right away. From there, there could be two options to pursue: 1. Trade the other for the assets that would be required to offload Ekman-Larsson and Miller. There's no way this team will be in a position to compete as long as those contracts are on the books. 2. Keep the other, do what you can to trade Miller and ride out the OEL contract. In this scenario, I would keep Hughes since Bedard would theoretically replace Pettersson as the franchise centre. Offload some other expendable assets (Horvat, Boeser, Garland whatever) and spend the next four years building around Bedard. Leverage other teams to take on some of their bad contracts for additional draft/prospect capital. At the end of that window, he will only be 22 and almost every bad contract should be off the books. In the scenario they keep Hughes, he'll also only be 28 and hopefully will have at least one competent top-pairing defencemen to partner with. They'll need to sign him to an extension by this time, so hopefully he'll be happy enough to do it. Downside is that finding all the other necessary pieces to contend is no guarantee. Either of these two options is risky but I would take them over maintaining the status quo. They have no prospect capital to help them fill the gaps on the team or offload their bad contracts. Those four years would hypothetically be spent filling those gaps. I honestly wish it was this simple. The harsh reality is that the Canucks will probably do none of these things and spend the next half decade trying to squeeze what they can out of this mediocre group of players.

You're right, no tire fire of an organization would be complete without its own Deshaun Watson. Let's make it $250 million while we're at it (salary limits be damned).

This team is apparently transforming from a country club owned by a migrant worker-abusing and (alleged) child-beating, blueberry farm slumlord to a Pittsburgh Penguins alumni country club owned by a migrant worker-abusing and (alleged) child-beating, blueberry farm slumlord. All we need are some oil-rich sovereign wealth fund investors from the Middle East and we should be all set.

If the Canucks' defencemen were the JFK assassins, he would have survived.

Hear me out - what if we convinced everyone in Vancouver to chip in $1500 to build a new arena and purchase a new NHL expansion franchise? That would be about $3.9 billion.

They're still 13 points ahead of last place. In typical Canucks fashion, they can't even tank properly. They're so bad at failing that they fail to fail.

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This is a selfish attitude, quite frankly. Even if Bedard wasn't Canadian, more superstar talent can only be good for the game.

Connor BeJesus.

It honestly feels like the entire organization, from Miller to Boudreau to Rutherford, is trying to gaslight us about Miller's play. It's no wonder he has this attitude, everyone around him including himself is reinforcing the idea that everything is business as usual, that all the lazy floating and angry outbursts are justifiable, that he isn't bleeding goals and scoring chances against whenever he's on the ice when anyone with access to a stat sheet or actually watches him play can see otherwise. Are we overdramatizing things a bit? Yeah, we probably are. But it would be way easier to stomach if the organization was at least a bit more honest about how Miller has played this year. I get that fans aren't owed anything in terms of a specific response, but it's hard to like Miller when he acts and talks to the media this way.

It's been happening for generations. Remember when Gretzky complained about the same thing at the Olympics 20 years ago? Nobody blinks when other countries play rough but as soon as Canada does it, all the accusations of being dirty goons come out.

I'd say peeing in a garbage can is pretty emblematic of how the Canucks have played this year.

Truth be told, we're all tired of this. Miller is just an encapsulation of the fanbase's frustration at this point. I honestly want to move on from him just so we can all stop talking about it.

This checks off a lot of boxes for the Jays - left handed bat, elite defensive center fielder with four more years of team control. Sucks to lose Moreno but the Jays should be pretty secure at catcher with Kirk and Jansen. As much as I like Lourdes Gurriel Jr. the person, he's honestly a very replaceable baseball player.

Hurts to think that the Canucks could have really built a contender around Pettersson if they weren't so damn impatient. Oh well, it's almost just as weirdly entertaining watching him drag the rest of the team around.