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Everything posted by Miss Korea Bob.Loblaw
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Yes. Nobody wanted to root for the Lakers, but Ja and Dillon made it way too easy. Brooks is an absolute bum - a Canadian one at that. It's embarrassing, cowering from the media after getting humiliated on the court like that. The only other time neutrals might actually root for the Lakers is if they played GSW. Maybe. As for Ja, he continues to shoot himself in the foot (not literally, of course...). That entourage of his has turned the dude into a fake gangsta and he hasn't really taken responsibility for it. He tries to act hard and get confrontational with media folk like Shannon, but then he ducks out of post-game losses. That's soft. He needs to take 10 pages out of Giannis' book.
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The Selke criteria doesn't specify much except that the player "demonstrates the most skill in the defensive component of the game". I think powerplay production is very specifically not a defensive element of the game. He's already bagged the Rocket, Art Ross, and is most definitely going to take home the Hart and Ted Lindsay. Do you really want McDavid to win a fifth award?
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The Lakers are indeed the evil empire. So imagine how bad and hated Ja and Brooks had to be to get the entire basketball community to rally against Memphis and support L.A.
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[proposal] VAN - NJD
Miss Korea Bob.Loblaw replied to Ted Lasso's topic in Proposals and Armchair GM'ing
It is an old take. He's not struggling to make the team anymore - he's played every game in the playoffs so far and isn't likely to be replaced. -
I think the rest of my post shows exactly why Bergeron is the most effective two-way forward in the league. It's the right mixture of scoring and not getting scored on. It's about being able to convert defense into offense. And contrary to handful of folks here who believe Bergeron is a reputation vote and not offensively productive, every statistic points toward Bergeron being #1. Nobody can do it better than him - not even McDavid.
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If you're trying to use pure scoring productivity as a core metric for who's more deserving of the Selke, than Connor McDavid is the man. That argument doesn't make sense for obvious reasons, but let's do a direct comparison between Pettersson and Bergeron. xG% (likelihood of unblocked shots to become goals): Bergeron [69.19%] v. Pettersson [50.11%] xGF% (ratio of outscoring opponents for/against): Bergeron [63.21%] v. Pettersson [53.69%] SCF% (ratio of scoring chances for/against): Bergeron [62.72%] v. Pettersson [50.44%] HDCF% (ratio of high-danger scoring chances for/against): Bergeron [63.76%] v. Pettersson [50.57%] HDGF% (ratio of converting high-danger chances for/against): Bergeron [74.36%] v. Pettersson [57.75%] All of this is saying that when these two players are on the ice... Bergeron is more likely to generate scoring chances and convert them while preventing his opponent from doing the same. Do you want me to also include FO%? We really need to get rid of the idea that when a player doesn't score goals, he didn't have a good game, and vice versa. But even if you did try to use that simplistic perspective, remember that Boston was an incredibly top-heavy team going into this season, with major concerns about talent. They decided to bump their best offensive player down (Pastrnak) and bring someone else up (DeBrusk). Both of them had career years, and the Bruins literally broke the record books to become the best regular season team of all time. Bergeron deserves credit for leading that first line.
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There are a handful of points you're making here. You're saying that he is less productive on offense, which disqualifies him from being a top forward. The Bruins were such a prolific team in the regular season that their first line (Marchand-Bergeron-DeBrusk) was built to dominate possession and tire out the opponents while the second line (Zacha-Krejci-Pastrnak) mopped things up. Compared to last year, the first line scored less because Boston deliberately built their team up that way. By putting the league's best RW on the second line, it allowed Pastrnak to face easier opponents and score 61 goals this year. And they ended up being literally the greatest regular season team in history. In 5v5 situations, there isn't a team more likely to score on you than Bergeron's line. Yes, the league has become a 5v5 shootout that rewards offense more than ever. And yet even now Bergeron does not let top lines score against him, and instead he drives offensive play. He is 1st in GF%, 3rd in xGF%, 3rd in SCF%, 3rd in xGAR, 3rd in HDCF%, 1st in HDGF%... the list goes on and on, but the ones I've mentioned imply that in in 5v5 situations, there is no better player to put on the ice than Patrice Bergeron. Even prolific two-way forwards like Tkachuk and Pettersson are not as effective as Bergeron because although they generate more scoring chances, they give up more as well. I repeat: there is no line in the NHL more likely to score on you in 5v5 than a line that has Bergeron on it. So by every single statistic available, Bergeron is the best two-way forward in the NHL, bar none. Offensively, he is still in the 95th percentile of offensive productivity in 5v5 situations. His possession metrics are insane. We are still watching a 38-year old player in his prime being the best in the league, and it doesn't even come close.
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By far the worst takes I've seen today. I'll take you all on. We have an award for top scorer - the Art Ross trophy. The best two-way forward in the NHL history is Patrice Bergeron, period. More impressive is that he hasn't lost a step, still making major contributions both offensively and defensively. When the league's best defensive forward can story 25 goals and 60 points per season, what more can you ask for? There isn't a single defensive metric where Bergeron falls behind others. Playing less minutes is usage rate. Irrelevant. He's scored enough points, so offense is irrelevant, especially for an award dedicated to DEFENSE. The metrics that count (DEF, XDEF, RAPM ga), he is #1 in everything.
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This is one take from a writer who seems to have a Canucks bias. Nice change of pace compared to all the east coast writers, but I doubt Pettersson will be a nominee this year. He'll get votes for sure, just not enough to get in the top three. Bergeron and Datsyuk really encouraged players to develop two-way games, and there are a ton in the NHL right now. The biggest problem with Petey is that his team didn't make the playoffs this year. A smaller problem is his weak faceoff percentage.
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Absolutely Horvat is NOT a play driver. He is very much a finisher. Give him the puck and he'll find a way to put it on net. It worked very well for a while here. They have a decent team there right now, though. They are built to win NOW and only now. No prospects left. Their most inexperienced member is somehow their head coach. If they can figure things out quickly (unlikely with Lou in charge), I see no reason why they can't succeed.
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I actually think the roster is built decently enough, supported by a Vezina-level goaltender. Where you see old guys, others might see veteran talent that'll produce consistently. Some of their best players (Lee, Barzal... HORVAT) came out flat during this postseason. Fans are blaming coaching and Lamoriello, which is an argument I can buy. They went 1 for 17 on the PP. That is a coaching problem. That's what you get for hiring a rookie to coach an all-in team.
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If Woo, Rathbone and Hoglander aren't traded and fail to make the team in training camp, they're going straight to the AHL through waivers. Any trade value they might have is now lost when they're cut from the final roster. If they're not good enough to make the team, other teams aren't going to be very interested in picking them up. I'd be pretty upset if Vancouver traded assets away to acquire another team's player that couldn't even make it out of training camp.
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No doubt about it - they're taking Lafferty out. They can figure out the lines during the game. It wasn't just Vasy, though. Yes, he was probably the better goalie tonight, but Tampa was really pushing the pace for the first two periods. That's three games now where Toronto looked weak early on and had to claw their way back. Couldn't do it thrice in a row. Such epic comebacks are less likely against Vasy, who's finally started to heat up.
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The Leafs should still consider themselves lucky. Despite having shaky games 3 and 4, they took advantage of weak goaltending from Vasilevskiy. But now he's back in form, which is the worst news for Toronto. I do think they have what it takes to break that curse, but they've just made things a lot harder for themselves.