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Huh? We have no one close to Miller in the pipe.
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I think we are all trying to be optimistic. I had Lekkerimaki high too and Kemell higher still I love how agressive he is. @Isam brings up Kadri comparissons re Moore. Regardless I wanted Bichsel so we will see how that plays out. But how often do 6'5 defensive D who obliterate guys open ice come up at our pick? On Leks damn I hope he makes a fool of me. Nothing would make me happier and furthermore I really think we're getting Dvorsky this year. So doubly so especially on Dvorsky if we get him as we need this type of player. I prefer to spectate on mud wrestling.
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I'd like to file a Griva. But for real though I think the DEL AHL Czech NL are really close right now in terms of quality. The gap is really closing and I quite enjoy watching the DEL. NHL translatability in terms of play style might be closer than the KHL though the skill level isn't.
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Zee Germans are coming.
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I'm not interested in getting into another mud wrestle with you. You have your opinions and I have mine I share some of your views. I also think Sale is a stud . And some others I don't share your perspective. Thats what a discussion is. But every time I disagree with you you start slinging insults and resort to playground tactics. A glance at the title of our PM thread illustrates this. Re Hameenaho Slafkovski comparison of course it's tongue N cheek. I took a guy I felt was a bit over rated last year and compared him to a guy who I feel is quite under rated this year and since they played in the same leagues it's a simpler exercise. I don't have Lenni top 5 I have him 20ish though in a class with Dvorsky. If we want to dive into it. Lenni is a Nov b day meaning on every team he played on growing up he was the youngest kid. Slafkovski being a March baby would have been the oldest and the stongest and quite obviously the biggest. There are 4 months separating these kids. I feel these factors cancel themselves out. In Liiga in their draft years Slafkovski tossed down 17 points in 49 games. Hameenaho had 25 points in 59 games. Their D-1 their numbers are also quite similar. Am I taking Slafkovski over Hameenaho of course I am but I don't think they are acres apart. Sure you can say one is 17 and the other is 18 but the 17 yearold is 6'3 240 so that point is kinda moot IMO. But all I am saying with this is don't sleep on Hameenaho I'm not billing him top 5. Re fixation on B days. I mean it comes up a lot. Don't make me throw down Lekkerimaki Kemell comparisons. Physically mature this and that. Kemell is in another class it's not close. I remain hopeful for Lekkerimaki as he is our guy. One glance at the type of points Kemell has put up in the playoffs vs the actual quality of the points Lekkerimaki put up meh I'm not interested you can see for yourself on twitter Kemell is clapping bombs. Buut it's kinda across the board. You can see Dvorsky is a big physically mature boi dominated children at the u18 but against men his own size. Statistically slaughtered and the eye test is worse. It goes on and on though anytime anyone disagrees with you you throw this age comparison in their face so and so is younger or not physically mature but maybe they just aren't as good as you think they are? There are schools of thought and I agree with you more often than not. Sometimes I disagree. Any time anyone does you cut their knees out.
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Ha this thread is brilliant. Love the poll. We're about 2 years out from fire Alvin blimps.
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excuse me brain fart. Point remains the same though.
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Rykov is 17 it also has Musty and Perrault top 10 but I agree to a point. I don't quite have the same fixation on birthdays you do. As a 17 yearold Raty was ranked 1st OA a year later he's a 53oa pick. Not all kids development is liner. Reinbacher, Michkov, Carlsson, Hameenaho have had success in mens leagues as 18 yearlods I'm not going punish them for being 18 and promote a kid treading water that's a few months younger in hopes that he will surpass the level the others are already displaying.
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I think Wood bumps up into that middle group.
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Yes and no. If they put up points Michkov 1st, Carlsson 3rd, Reinbacher 5th, Hameenaho 24th, Rykov, 44th. If they didn't put up points they got torched absolutely.
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About 3 days ago. Wow things get buried quick. That's great to see.
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I think Alvin will have have a Tupacian level of eyes on ASP. If he take's Lekkerimaki and ASP back to back I sure hope all the kings horses and all the kings men have clue what their doing.
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I think Dvorsky will be there. And honestly I'd love to get guys like him in the system. As a raw talent I think he's got all the tools and ticks all the boxes. I find myself incredibly frustrated by the way he plays. I cringe when he carry's the puck. Maybe he's coachable if he is.... There's huge potential. Or he's an ostrich. I'm not sure which. Regardless I think he's going to be a very good 3C who's money on the PP. Not convinced at all on top 6 upside though. I'm in the same boat with Musty. I absolutely want guys like him in the system. I just don't want them at 11. 16+ absolutely. In Musty's case I love playmaking from the Power fwd role. Musty can play that Bertuzzi role where Naslund/Lekkerimaki would thrive. I can see the carrot.
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https://soundofhockey.com/2023/06/02/a-data-driven-look-at-the-top-250-prospects-in-the-2023-nhl-draft/ Obviously big handful of salt but it is kind of interesting.
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Absolutely. And while it is incredibly flawed. It will be interesting to see when draft day comes how much better or worse it is statistically speaking than some other lists available in the media. Especially when you do consider how incredibly flawed it is. Could other metrics be built into it to make it better in years to come? At this point it's just an incredibly raw exercise in statistics. I do statistics in forestry metrics for a living so I kind of geeked when I saw someone made a base model for the entire draft class based on TOP Down's ╔══════════════════╦═══════╗║ League ║ NHLe ║╠══════════════════╬═══════╣║ NHL ║ 1 ║║ KHL ║ 0.772 ║║ Czech ║ 0.583 ║║ SHL ║ 0.566 ║║ NLA ║ 0.459 ║║ Liiga ║ 0.441 ║║ AHL ║ 0.389 ║║ DEL ║ 0.352 ║║ Allsvenskan ║ 0.351 ║║ VHL ║ 0.328 ║║ Slovakia ║ 0.295 ║║ EBEL ║ 0.269 ║║ WJC-20 ║ 0.269 ║║ France ║ 0.250 ║║ Belarus ║ 0.242 ║║ Czech2 ║ 0.240 ║║ EIHL ║ 0.235 ║║ LNAH ║ 0.232 ║║ DEL2 ║ 0.205 ║║ Kazakhstan ║ 0.201 ║║ NCAA ║ 0.194 ║║ Denmark ║ 0.190 ║║ Mestis ║ 0.178 ║║ NLB ║ 0.176 ║║ Italy ║ 0.176 ║║ Norway ║ 0.173 ║║ ECHL ║ 0.147 ║║ OHL ║ 0.144 ║║ MHL ║ 0.143 ║║ USHL ║ 0.143 ║║ WHL ║ 0.141 ║║ Poland ║ 0.135 ║║ WJC-18 ║ 0.135 ║║ Russia3 ║ 0.135 ║║ Usports ║ 0.125 ║║ USDP ║ 0.121 ║║ QMJHL ║ 0.113 ║║ Division-1 ║ 0.109 ║║ Czech3 ║ 0.104 ║║ Erste-Liga ║ 0.103 ║║ Slovakia2 ║ 0.102 ║║ Romania ║ 0.099 ║║ Superelit ║ 0.091 ║║ NAHL ║ 0.087 ║║ Germany3 ║ 0.085 ║║ ALPSHL ║ 0.084 ║║ U20 SM-Liiga ║ 0.083 ║║ BCHL ║ 0.080 ║║ NMHL ║ 0.076 ║║ Czech-U20 ║ 0.074 ║║ AJHL ║ 0.062 ║║ EJHL ║ 0.060 ║║ Czech U19 ║ 0.059 ║║ SwissDiv1 ║ 0.054 ║║ Belarus-Vysshaya ║ 0.052 ║║ SJHL ║ 0.052 ║║ U20-Elit ║ 0.049 ║║ CCHL ║ 0.048 ║║ MJHL ║ 0.046 ║║ USPHL-Premier ║ 0.046 ║║ Slovakia-U20 ║ 0.044 ║║ Russia-U17 ║ 0.044 ║║ USPHL-18U ║ 0.041 ║║ U18 SM-Sarja ║ 0.040 ║║ NAPHL-18U ║ 0.039 ║║ Czech U18 ║ 0.038 ║║ J18 Allsvenskan ║ 0.038 ║║ Division-2 ║ 0.038 ║║ MJAHL ║ 0.037 ║║ QJAAAHL ║ 0.036 ║║ MPHL ║ 0.035 ║║ OJHL ║ 0.034 ║║ HPHL-16U ║ 0.034 ║║ Slovenia ║ 0.033 ║║ Russia-U18 ║ 0.032 ║║ 16U-AAA ║ 0.031 ║║ J18-Elit ║ 0.029 ║║ USHS-Prep ║ 0.028 ║║ QMAAA ║ 0.028 ║║ CISAA ║ 0.027 ║║ Norway2 ║ 0.027 ║║ USPHL-16U ║ 0.027 ║║ GOJHL ║ 0.027 ║║ AYHL-16U ║ 0.026 ║║ Russia-U16 ║ 0.025 ║║ J20-Elit ║ 0.024 ║║ USHS-MN ║ 0.024 ║║ DNL ║ 0.024 ║║ Denmark2 ║ 0.023 ║║ VIJHL ║ 0.021 ║║ NOJHL ║ 0.021 ║║ Slovakia-U18 ║ 0.020 ║║ CAHS ║ 0.020 ║║ AMHL ║ 0.020 ║║ PIJHL ║ 0.020 ║║ KIJHL ║ 0.020 ║║ U17-Elit ║ 0.018 ║║ II-DivisioonA ║ 0.018 ║║ U20-Top ║ 0.017 ║║ BCMML ║ 0.016 ║║ U16 SM-Sarja ║ 0.015 ║║ NSMMHL ║ 0.015 ║║ Czech U16 ║ 0.014 ║║ Denmark-U20 ║ 0.013 ║║ MMHL ║ 0.013 ║║ U16 SM-Sarja-Q ║ 0.012 ║║ GTHL-U16 ║ 0.012 ║║ J20-Div.1 ║ 0.011 ║║ U16-SM ║ 0.011 ║║ U16-ELIT ║ 0.010 ║║ Alliance-U16 ║ 0.009 ║║ GTHL-U18 ║ 0.008 ║║ J18-Div.1 ║ 0.008 ║║ Division-4 ║ 0.008 ║║ QMEAA ║ 0.007 ║║ J20-Div.2 ║ 0.007 ║║ Denmark-U17 ║ 0.006 ║║ U16-Div.1 ║ 0.005 ║║ J18-Div.2 ║ 0.005 ║║ ETAHL U18 ║ 0.005 ║║ AMMHL ║ 0.005 ║║ QBAAA ║ 0.004 ║║ AMBHL ║ 0.002 ║║ U16-Div.2 ║ 0.002 ║╚══════════════════╩═══════╝
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Oh for sure it's not so much scouting at all. It's just an algorythm basically putting the kids in order based on their production across different valued leagues. It's more just interesting. Or not? I wouldn't put any stock into it. Just thought it was a fun fluff piece. It might put some kids on the radar you hadn't thought of. I don't think Simashev is on there either because he has 0 points but so did Danila Yurov. So the algorithm misses them.
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Thanks for posting. I'm always excited to see how the kids do
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LOL clearly. Those 2ndary assists in the playoffs were Bossyesque. We'll see I hope he has a great year this year the SHL will be a good test. I don't wan't JB back but I also feel like how you go out of your way to spew Benning hate is pretty poor fanship or whatever you want to call it. The guy may not have been the best GM but I don't think he deserves the type of dehumanizing spite you have for him. End of the day he was just a guy trying to do his best and his best wasn't good enough.
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Alvin's draft record is not good though Alf. As pitts director of a scouting 2021 Entry Draft Num. Round Player Pos Drafted From GP G A Pts PIM 2021 Entry 58 2 Tristan Broz C Fargo Force [USHL] 2021 Entry 154 5 Isaac Belliveau D Gatineau Olympiques [QMJHL] 2021 Entry 194 7 Ryan McCleary D Portland Winterhawks [WHL] 2021 Entry 215 7 Daniel Laatsch D Sioux City Musketeers [USHL] 2021 Entry 218 7 Kirill Tankov C Morozova SKA Varyagi [Russia-2] 2020 Entry Draft Num. Round Player Pos Drafted From GP G A Pts PIM 2020 Entry 52 2 Joel Blomqvist G Karpat [SM-liiga] 2020 Entry 77 3 Calle Clang G Kristianstad Jrs. (Sweden) 2020 Entry 108 4 Lukas Svejkovsky C Medicine Hat Tigers [WHL] 2020 Entry 149 5 Raivis Ansons R Baie-Comeau Drakkar [QMJHL] 2020 Entry 170 6 Chase Yoder F U.S. National Under-18 Team [USHL] 2019 Entry Draft Num. Round Player Pos Drafted From GP G A Pts PIM 2019 Entry 21 1 Samuel Poulin R Sherbrooke Phoenix [QMJHL] 3 0 1 1 2 2019 Entry 74 3 Nathan Legare R Baie-Comeau Drakkar [QMJHL] 2019 Entry 145 5 Judd Caulfield R U.S. National Development Team [USHL] 2019 Entry 203 7 Valtteri Puustinen R HPK Hameenlinna [SM-liiga] 1 0 1 1 0 2019 Entry 211 7 Santeri Airola D Saipa [Finland Jrs.] 2018 Entry Draft Num. Round Player Pos Drafted From GP G A Pts PIM 2018 Entry 53 2 Calen Addison D Lethbridge Hurricanes [WHL] 80 5 28 33 24 2018 Entry 58 2 Filip Hallander C Timra IK [Swe-1] 3 0 0 0 0 2018 Entry 129 5 Justin Almeida C Moose Jaw Warriors [WHL] 2018 Entry 177 6 Liam Gorman F St. Sebastian's School (Mass. H.S.) As director of European scouting 2017 Entry Draft Num. Round Player Pos Drafted From GP G A Pts PIM 2017 Entry 51 2 Zachary Lauzon D Rouyn-Noranda Huskies [QMJHL] 2017 Entry 93 3 Clayton Phillips D Fargo Force [USHL] 2017 Entry 152 5 Jan Drozg R Leksand [Sweden-Jrs] 2017 Entry 155 5 Linus Olund C Brynas IF Gavle [SweHL] 2017 Entry 186 6 Antti Palojarvi D Lukko [Finland-Jrs] 2017 Entry 217 7 Will Reilly D R.P.I. [ECAC] 2016 Entry Draft Num. Round Player Pos Drafted From GP G A Pts PIM 2016 Entry 55 2 Filip Gustavsson G Lulea HF [SweHL] 66 0 1 1 0 2016 Entry 61 2 Kasper Bjorkqvist R Blues Jrs (Finland) 6 1 0 1 2 2016 Entry 77 3 Connor Hall D Kitchener Rangers [OHL] 2016 Entry 121 4 Ryan Jones D Lincoln Stars [USHL] 2016 Entry 151 5 Niclas Almari D Jokerit Jrs (Finland) 2016 Entry 181 6 Joe Masonius D U. of Connecticut [H-East] 2015 Entry Draft Num. Round Player Pos Drafted From GP G A Pts PIM 2015 Entry 46 2 Daniel Sprong R Charlottetown Islanders [QMJHL] 268 67 49 116 44 2015 Entry 137 5 Dominik Simon C Plzen HC [Czech] 256 22 55 77 80 2015 Entry 167 6 Frederik Tiffels F Western Michigan University [NCHC] 2015 Entry 197 7 Nikita Pavlychev C Des Moines Buccaneers [USHL] 2014 Entry Draft Num. Round Player Pos Drafted From GP G A Pts PIM 2014 Entry 22 1 Kasperi Kapanen R KalPa Kuopio [SM-liiga] 387 78 108 186 96 2014 Entry 113 4 Sam Lafferty C Deerfield Academy (Mass. H.S.) 210 23 36 59 118 2014 Entry 145 5 Anthony Angello C Omaha Lancers [USHL] 31 3 2 5 14 2014 Entry 173 6 Jaden Lindo R Owen Sound Attack [OHL] 2014 Entry 203 7 Jeff Taylor D Union College [ECAC] 2013 Entry Draft Num. Round Player Pos Drafted From GP G A Pts PIM 2013 Entry 44 2 Tristan Jarry G Edmonton Oil Kings [WHL] 206 0 10 10 20 2013 Entry 77 3 Jake Guentzel L Sioux City Musketeers [USHL] 453 197 217 414 210 2013 Entry 119 4 Ryan Segalla D Salisbury (Conn. H.S.) 2013 Entry 164 6 Dane Birks D Merritt Centennials [BCHL] 2013 Entry 179 6 Blaine Byron C Smiths Falls Bears [CCHL] 2013 Entry 209 7 Troy Josephs C St. Michael's Buzzers [OJHL] His best picks are Kapanen, Calen Addison, Dominik Simon Thats a lot of picks sure they aren't high picks but to have only those 3 to show for it. You'd have better odds throwing darts at names on a wall blindfolded. JB took with Allvins quality of picks Mccann, Forsling, Boeser, Hoglander, Gaudette, Tryamkin, Klimovie among others who have yet to have a chance at the NHL level. Get over it Benning is gone you can stop slandering him. It's not like the guy was out to sink the franchise like some evil villain. He may not have been the best guy for the job and made mistakes but he did good too and he did have the teams best interests at heart. If you should be upset with anyone it's probably Frankie and the Sedins who pushed for Loui and OEL.
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Here's a fun list I stumbled across. Not saying it's good or bad but they predicted 28 of the 32 1st rounders last year. There are some hot takes for sure. https://soundofhockey.com/2023/06/02/a-data-driven-look-at-the-top-250-prospects-in-the-2023-nhl-draft/
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Whoa don't be knocking Lockwood's work ethic.
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There are a few guys I think I am guilty of sleeping on. Tristan Bertucci 6'2 LD. What a season he's had. 17yo July B day scored 55 in 70 games to lead this OHL D draft class. He seems to have better 2 way play than Korchinski, Minty, Matey did while being within the realm of their offensive output. He's someone to keep an eye on. These rankings seem a tad low. Does he slip to the 3rd? Really???? Ranked #58 by MCKEEN'S HOCKEY Ranked #100 by TSN/CRAIG BUTTON Ranked #32 by NHL CENTRAL SCOUTING (NA Skaters) Ranked #76 by SMAHT SCOUTING Mazden Leslie 6'1 RHD Hopefully someone who watches the Giants can chime in on him. The speed and shot seem pro level could be one of Alvins difference makers in a late round. Bogden Konyushkov 20 yo RHD has put up very solid numbers 0.5ppg in the KHL its really hard to judge with these guys same for Asplund I believe they will both be drafted this year where, what round remains a mystery