Thats what I meant lol
The players are the same but all of a sudden they aren't performing as good as they did under AV?
There is no excuse for the twins decline at 33. Unless they are seriously saving it for the Olympics.
Hamhuis under torts has been horrendous imo. Hansen, Kesler, burr... etc.
All struggling. Coaching has to be part of it.
Hopefully it's not a coaching problem and just a matter of time until they master torts system.