Where's Wellwood

I'm about to head out for work and won't be able to check in until after nightfall. All I can say is I'm TP and while I can't solidly say who among AT/Aladeen/Ilunga is mafia, vigging me may put us in LYLO or worse. If we're lynching Aladeen, I don't know who should be the vig target but it shouldn't be me. I'm not sure why a mafia AT would begin to call out Zfetch right before the mafia kills him. I know the vig won't try to snipe a deep wolf, so if there's one in the 'confirmed' TP, then we're cooked. See you guys after nightfall.

I'm at work tomorrow from afternoon till after nightfall so 2pm is the latest I can guarantee I may be around. I'll vote AT for now.

Who did you target? (despite being RB?)

If there's that many mafia left, hell, if there's even 2 or 3 mafia left, there's some mafia in the supposed cleared town. Town: Toews, SD, Ilduce, me 3rd party: AE Claimed town role but not 100% confirmed: LL, illunga ???: Aladeen, AT

Who did you put your save on?

no chance, tbh He's barely had any actions. I'll admit there's little that hints at him being mafia but equally little that hints at him being TP

This doesn't read good to me either. Sounds way to definitive of a statement for someone of Shiz's activity this game combined with the lack of evidence in our current lynch pool. Also could be a TMI that both J23 and Shiz are mafia or an implication that we're all sheep for being about to lynch a TP

It's more that nothing makes you TP and the leading assumption is the mafia team is full of slankers

I voted shiznak here to see what a wagon option would do to swing voters. Only LL and AT changed over (at least before it got too close to a tie and MR had the pretend role claim blow up in his face) That's the most I've done to try to solve things on my own. I proposed investigating MR rather than lynching him but that was dependant on TL and the mafia got to him before he could give us a result anyway. I still feel Shiznak is the call. None of his quick pop-ins to lament the fact that people are sus on him feel genuine to me. But if it does go to a J23/me wagon, I'll vote J23. At least J23's insistence he wasn't on at nightfall feels real. Not being on at that nightfall does mean he's TP though, so he's my #2 target. vote Shiznak

Maybe in case you watched Aladeen? 1. 2. @luckylagerTP 3. 4. @IlungaHas a Role 5. @ilduce39TP 6. @Aladeen 7. @ZfetchTP 8. @IntoewsablesTP 9. @AngryElf3P (Angel) 10. 11. @Alchemy Time 12. @shiznak 13. @Where's Wellwood 14. 15. 16. 17. 18. 19. 20. @Snake DoctorTP 21. 22. @J-23 And somebody is the fruit/shrub guy I'm leaning lynch/vig J-23 and Shiznak I don't see Aladeen going all in as mafia to eliminate non-TP special MR in a different time zone. Fruity-shrubber should claim to avoid the mislynch. (any chance the Shruby-fruiter is a mafia role?) Doc save Ilduce this round?

Vig can hit shiznak as well. unvote; vote MR A tie is not informative I did want to see what would happen to the MR vote count if I made Shiznak a viable wagon

I'll vote shiznak and see what happens

I'd be on the investigate MR plan personally and lynch Shiznak. So that we don't lose MR if he's TP.

I had forgotten about that soft role claim. I'm comfortable with MR or Shiznak. Though I was thinking I was fine with SD 30 minutes ago so... I know everyone would say this, but you're wasting an investigation on me. At least with Aladeen or MR you'd be clearing an active, analytical player who would help lead the team. Is finding the doc necessary? Better to stay hidden (if there is one) so they don't become a mafia target. If they become a lynch candidate somehow, they can claim then. The only benefit would be so a mafia member doesn't claim doc and we'd waste a round proving it (if we even can with watcher, etc). but even in that case, they can counter claim

Unless the mafia have numerous special roles of their own which could be the case if that's how the mafia kills have been hitting 3rd party and TP specials Interesting that you don't follow LL's line of reasoning in asking TL for the Knight name. This is at least the 2nd time I've read this from someone this game. I don't remember if it was from you. Seems like an easy way for a mafia to blend in with the TP pack.

Watcher! that's what I was thinking of. Now back to page. 61/62

My thoughts as of me reading up to Page.60: My knowledge of mafia roles is limited but is there no role like a tracker but slightly different? Also, while it would help to back up his role claim, saying the name of the knight is not definitive proof of anything. There's a limited number of Specials so it's doubtful that the whole round table is being used. A mafia member could false role claim a less notable knight and just hope that the role isn't actually belonging to anybody in the game.

Just got back home. Will catch up (i'm on page 55) and have dinner

The marketing for it leading up to it was pretty scarce. It didn't help that Rune and Tsitsipas pulled out with injury and their replacements are lack luster. Team World is pretty rock solid though. AngryElf and DarthMelvin both haven't posted yet right?

I'm gonna sound like a broken record but Laver Cup session 3 is about to start I'll try to check in during the break between session 3 and 4 Zfetch rationale on AT or LL seems sound based on what we know

Not specific to this game, but I don't like play style generalizations that are based on the role/team . If it was that clear, players would change it Are you implying that if Mafia didn't submit kill, that it's randomized? Wouldn't there just be no MK that round? Its odd that there's been no hint of doc and especially sheriff unless 1) they dead or 2) there isn't one The game is themed enough, I could see there not being one

Could this be clarified? The round likely won't get enough votes to be extended but are people who voted extend last round at risk of God kill if they don't vote this round?

Session 2 of Laver cup about to begin so I'll get a vote in now. A lot of players I don't recognize the name of. I don't feel like Toews or TL are playing like they usually do (though I am trying to be more analytical than I usually am). I feel their either quieter or less observant than they usually are. I though NIK tunneling on the issue of if we've ever extended round 1 before to be besides the point. I could see one of Aladeen or NIK being Mafia and trying to bloat the thread with distraction. Though there are definitely Mafia amongst the players who's names I don't recognize, there's still too many players left for me to have strong feelings on everyone I'll vote NIK for now and try to check in later Also food for thought. No mention of a sheriff yet. Hopefully the town has some kind of sheriff this game, unless the Mafia team is tiny to balance not having a sheriff

Just caught up after work, before I go to bed. Anybody else think Coconuts was a weird target for the Vig? Did Coconuts even post anything in round 1?