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Everything posted by MrCanuck94
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The thing is, with Petey and Miller, they're defensively responsible and make their wingers better, so it doesn't matter who you put them with. Bo being more of a complementary piece, you have to make sure he's with at least one strong 2 way forward and one playmaker that can get him the puck to shoot.
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As mentioned in many previous posts, this isn't true.
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I disagree, Garland was playing at a 65 point pace on a poor Arizona team last season and is close to 50 points with close to no PP1 time pacing third line minutes throughout the season. Currently second on the team in 5on5 production behind Miller. Analytics have him as a legit top 6 play driving winger. He is so good at creating opportunities and makes his line mates better.
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Would be really sad to lose Garland if it happens. Has some of the best metrics on the team at only 4.95 mill. Him and Petey had good chemistry together, would be smart to keep him as our 1RW moving forward.
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Defs would be sweet to pass the 30 marker. Back to his usual pace of 58 points over 82 games as well. I think the conversation was usually Miller over Bo for 2C, or if he's a 3C on a contender. Both which are still legit discussion points in the bigger picture imo.
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No one forgot, it's the reality of his progression/regression. His impact on the ice has regressed a lot from his first season, although his defensive game has improved, it's still average. Injuries are part of a player's career. We can't just keep him based on how he played 4 years ago. Points aren't the issue with Brock, it's his overall play when he's not producing and his skating ability.
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The point is that we have to look at the bigger picture. Keeping a strategy of these type of moves consistently means we'll do similar type moves in the future and keep accumulating picks that will in total equal to a larger amount of capital that we can use to keep bringing in valuable assets while removing invaluable cap and replacing it with valuable cap. Rinse, repeat.
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How did JR/PA do on TDL 2022? (10 being best, 1 being worst)
MrCanuck94 replied to HKSR's topic in Canucks Talk
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"if your players Tyler Motte makes 500k too much, your Tyler Myers make 2 million too much, those are the type of deals that will hurt you when you try build a team that are a contender" BANG ON by Jannik Hansen, someone who's lived these situations. Like he said, the last 5/6 years the team has given too many player friendly contracts, paying them more than their value, rather than team value contracts. We can't just let assets walk for free. The 4th pick can't just be valued by the % of the pick becoming a player. The capital can be used as an added asset that helps win you a trade. It can be combined with cap space to land a player way under value (Schmidt, Toews). There's so many more possibilities, but those possibilities need to be open by having the cap space and more assets on hand. A lot more work to be done in the offseason.
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How did JR/PA do on TDL 2022? (10 being best, 1 being worst)
MrCanuck94 replied to HKSR's topic in Canucks Talk
You want guys like that, at the price they are worth. Allvin already mentioned they couldn't agree on a contract, and he doesn't like to let assets walk free, which is the proper thing to do. The market rate for a fourth liner was mid to late round picks, no one offered more for Motte. It's not about getting a player with that pick at an equal or more value, the value also comes from the capital and cap space that can be allocated else where. It's a big picture move. -
How did JR/PA do on TDL 2022? (10 being best, 1 being worst)
MrCanuck94 replied to HKSR's topic in Canucks Talk
Jeez, I can't believe what I'm reading in the Motte trade thread in regards to new management. - We cleared cap, got capital. - Motte was market value, emotional connection to the player doesn't make them more valuable to the rest of the league. - Every other player is still on contract and can be dealt in the off season, where most of our moves are likely to happen, as has been reported the whole time. No need to make knee jerk trades. - New management IS following their STRATEGY. Taking their time and making moves that support that is crucial and something past management never did. Let them take their time and create a cup contender.- 459 replies
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Why are so many mad at new management? - Market value for a fourth line forward - They tried for an extension before trading him, but Motte's camp wanted too much - You don't pay fourth liners over 2 mill - We got capital we can use either for the draft or trades I wish we got more, but it is what it is. These are the types of moves we need to make to be successful in the bigger picture, things our previous regime didn't do.
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So we: - cleared cap - got capital - used that capital to get a more effective, cheaper, younger d man that can play both sides Asset management folks.
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Yes, I agree with average, but average doesn't coin you the term "2way". For sure, I see your point. By minimal impact I was referring to something similar as Brock. When he's not scoring, he's not really making an impact physically, defensively or creatively. IMO, if I'm building a contender, a 6 mill C either needs to be elite offensively (creative, play driving, playmaking center) or bring a strong 2way game while putting up points (Kesler).
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Bo isn't a 2way center in the NHL. Period. He's had poor defensive stats analytically and it also fits the eye test. You are correct that his usage has gone up this season, from 24-29 seconds avg TOI on PK the past three seasons to 64 seconds this season. I personally don't like him on the PK as imo he doesn't have great defensive reads and is often just floating around. If you believe he has another step in his development, then sure. I think he is what he is, which is a complementary 2C, a very good player still. I'm not giving Bo flack, I think there's sometimes misconception of what he really is. A solid complementary 2C that can give you 50-60 points is no slouch. Bo has been very inconsistent this year with his on ice efforts. Like Boeser, he's picked up points along the way, but his impact on the ice for many games has been minimal.
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[PGT] Calgary Flames at Vancouver Canucks | Mar. 19, 2022
MrCanuck94 replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Canucks Talk
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Bo doesn't really have a more complete game. He takes more faceoffs, that's about it. Both have average 2-way games and are very inconsistent.
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We may have discussed this before but for me it's not just about the points. When he's not scoring, he's making no impact on the game. We need to utilize 6 million more efficiently.
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Shedding Poolman's salary is value as well in this circumstance. Kapanen's even strength points last 4 seasons - 39, 31, 26, 22 (so far) Boeser's even strength points last 4 seasons - 41, 31, 34, 18 (so far) Production isn't a huge drop off and we can move Garland to PP1, where he belongs.
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To Pit: Boeser Motte Poolman To Van: Marino Kapanen Teams fill each others needs and we cut ties with Poolman with Hamonic on the third pair. Pitts gets Poolman as support on the bottom pair to somewhat make up for the loss of Marino. We get Kapanen who has produced better than Boeser 5on5 while adding a lot to our team speed. Lockwood has shown that he is close to NHL ready and has a similar play style to Motte. *Barring other moves* Kapanen Miller Pod Hog Petey Garland Pearson Horvat Dickinson Highmore Lammikko Lockwood Hughes Marino OEL Myers Rathbone Hamonic Demko Halak