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i disagree what ep40 and his agent will do is have a very hard look at how the new television contract will impact the salary cap and work his percentage of the cap ask based on that increase you really want a player of his calibre to be short changed financially? if that value cannot properly be assessed when he is up for his re-sign he'll likely do a bridge deal until these facts are clearer don't get fixated on the dollar value or aav it's all about percentage of the cap
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and what say you now ???? i stand by my commentary made in this thread none of what i said was in any sense an exaggeration mostly just writing down what i saw happen since last season and assessing the quality moves made by this organization mostly announced through jb and the team exceeded where i thought they were at you appear to have a bit of an exaggerated negative view about jb and this team he has built i hope you can get over that so you can fully enjoy this rapidly improving team
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[Signing] Josi extended 8 years
coastal.view replied to qwijibo's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
i agree with you but think that the length of long term contracts will be further capped i can see 6 to return to your existing team and 5 as an ufa with a new team it will reduce wasted years on injured or declining players i can see ltir rules adjusted as well since there are more and more of these players and they are taking up a percentage of revenue sharing away from active/productive players and as toronto has shown, 1 team can collect them which gives that team a disproportionate share of revenue sharing for the players they control 1 team can collect them and distort the salary cap toronto is paying out over 100 million in salary this season -
How Do We Manage Hughes's Ice Time So He Doesn't Burn Out?
coastal.view replied to Dr. Crossbar's topic in Canucks Talk
speaking of bomber man he must have done a lot of assistant coach training in the off season cuz he sure has this defense core playing a couple levels above last season so many thought he was a lousy coach last season they must be so pleased about how he improved himself for this season -
define successful and hockey is a team game that requires reasonable team depth not sure how a team can be properly structured when half the payroll is put into the pockets of 4 players since a team roster is 23 players the other 19 players have to be fit into the other half of the cap it likely means the others are less then average quality cuz you generally get what you pay for yet those top 4 eat up what? 20 minutes or so per game there are 5 non goalie playing positions on a hockey team a game is 60 minutes x 5 = 300 minutes of playing time to be filled 4 players get half the cap to cover about 80 minutes of those 300 not sure how that allocation of pay to playing time makes any sense when 2/3 of the playing time is filled by likely less then average talent it's a strange approach to team building by the leafs
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maybe the assessment of the toronto situation needs a different perspective they had a shanaplan in place it did not account for signing the top ufa in an off season tavares fell into their lap they could not say no to a hometown talent who wanted to return to play for them but he cost them a bundle in salary and cap space which distorted badly their rebuild (and the shanaplan) top brass made silly naive statements such as... we will retain all our top talent.. and likely privately made those statements as serious commitments to key players and then those statements were leveraged against them when that went very badly and they got a lot of bad press with nylander the organization blinked and caved they chose to simply do what it took to re-sign their remaining 2 rfas hoping it would change the salary market in the nhl hence justifying their approach that did not happen (no one thought the leafs approach to contract values was wise) and they seem now to be a ship largely steered by incompetents? or maybe along the way with and/or after the nylander signing they were cynical in deciding to accept that their distorted salary structure would not result in a championship team and as they saw with the raptors with kwahi, if you get the key superstar(s), you can sell out every ticket the raptors did not expect to win the championship with that acquisition but they saw what it did to market share, television viewership, and local fan support which a championship win caused to really crest maybe the leafs are simply signing their top talent to sell tickets and capture larger market share to partly satisfy a fan base that can be rabid about having some of the best nhl players even if that does not result in the best team maybe they no longer care about having the best team and have largely abandoned the original shanaplan i hear very little about the shanaplan since tavares was signed the leafs have a curious history about their rebuilds they never ever stick to them they always try to accelerate them or find an easy out there is just too much money to be made in that hockey market and they simply cannot wait the necessary time to complete a proper rebuild but need to cash in sooner and are prepared to con their fan base in the process maybe we will see leaf jerseys thrown on the ice sooner this go round once the fan base there wakes up and sees what has really happened? there is something wrong with the culture there they believe they can buy the best management buy the best coach that their financial strength means they can buy what they need and players have adopted that approach in relation to their own compensation as that is the top priority in that organization more important then dedication, integrity, loyalty, team camaraderie - the non monetary things that seems to drive real fans of team sport i dunno maybe i'm just spit balling too much in this post
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your views accord with what the majority appear to be saying but this does assume a somewhat distorted business market in toronto why would a sophisticated business entity overpay for player services this same operation runs an nba team as well which has been very prudent with contract values the majority view is that the distortion is due to a rookie gm who can be pushed around but he is overseen by a president and board that would need to approve such massive deals and they are approved seems to me there is in fact more going on and these contract premiums must be due to something else they seem to indicate a reluctance of top young players to re-sign with the leafs without a bump above market value in pay so what is this negative value in the toronto hockey operations that requires a premium payment be made as an enticement so that top young talent will re-sign with the team?
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i agree that those things are not yet known well except for brock perhaps he was a rfa who signed a bridge deal that is very different what the leaf players signed but there does not seem to be the same hardline approach here that is being displayed in toronto and except for marner, who made it clear he really wanted to stay in toronto and still demanded a clear premium to remain there the indications from canucks players is that they really want to be here and appear to really want to play with their team mates again, we are not hearing those sorts of comments coming from players in toronto matthews demanded a contract that results in him being an ufa at the end of that deal and nylander simply left the team and stayed in europe while his team mates played almost 3 months of hockey
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it could be a real money maker entertainment over news content not sure if the crtc would permit such a venture in the great white north though
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but statistical odds would indicate all things being equal that in a 30 team league a team should be able to win a cup in a 50 year span and also make it to an additional cup final where they lose the nucks are a prime example of this...3 finals in 50 years, no cup victories yet though and that is with a 30 team league, there were less teams over the past 50 years toronto's success is limited to what? 1 conference final in 50 seasons? rich owners should make little difference now given the salary cap it equalizes the financial things between teams the leafs problem is that in a cap system they are severely hampered having to pay a significant salary premium to retain their best players i appreciate the tavares signing is a little different maybe i should have focused my comments on the rfas drafted and recently re-signed by toronto it is clear that in the nba landscape toronto is not a desired destination maybe the reasons nba players express can be applied to nhl player views about toronto?
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what the past 1 year has clearly shown to nhl fans is that top notch nhl talent require a premium in contract value to play for the leafs this problem, which appears to be on par with what many players require to play for the oilers and jets, is puzzling the centre of the universe is not able to attract quality talent at fair market value contracts is the city that awful to live in? are the fan there that intolerable? is mike babcock that demanding of a coach? is the past half century performance of that franchise that big of a stain? so many quality nhl players are born and raised in ontario and one would think they'd be happy to return "home" to play for the leafs but this really does not appear to be the case despite my comment above, even mcdavid reportedly refused a higher value contract from the oilers and insisted on a team friendly aav of 12.5 million we hear none of this coming from the better leaf players looking for answers here our local team is able to sign good players at team sensible value contracts leafs are not please explain
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Okay, Save the Laffs..PLEASE!
coastal.view replied to Nuxfanabroad's topic in General Hockey Discussion
ekblad has a nmc hard to include him in any trade and why would he leave a better team to be moved to a worse team? but,,,,, maybe if he could renegotiate his contract to get laff value to play for that team ? then he might do it an aav in doube figures ? -
but..... a comprehensive assessment should include alternate facts ? where are those ?
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me-n-eds pizza in burnaby off kingsway near edmonds they do a fine pie with many varieties of toppings
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i think they are announcing his potty breaks now