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  1. He had a .913 even strength save percentage last season. Welllllllll below league average. Eddie Lack had a .921 even strength save percentage in his first season as a NHL player (league average), and got slammed with 19 straight starts. Not sure why Canucks would have an interested in Miller, Lack/Markstrom would likely produce similar or better numbers. Lack would outplay him my christmas and this team would be in the midst of another goalie controversy. A big no thanx to Miller.
  2. I'm being punked. Please announce the real return for Ryan Kesler.

    1. LeanBeef

      LeanBeef

      the rights to daniel Winnik and a 7th

    2. Brad Marchand

      Brad Marchand

      Reality is fake.

      Dreams are for real.

  3. @GeorgeRichards: #FlaPanthers Tallon says he doesn't want to drop any farther than eighth in the first round. Let the rumors begin.
  4. A few things that jumped out: A week ago, Tallon said he got 1 fair offer for the 1st pick. A few days after that Friedman o team 1040 said he didn't think canucks had made an offer yet for that pick. Today Friedman said they have made an offer, and Tallonsaid he's still only received 1 fair offer. So that basically means he didn't like Canucks offer. I don't like idea of trading Shinny, 6th pick and a roster player for Reinhart. I don't think Canucks have the depth to do that deal. I would rather have Shinny, Ehlers, roster player than Reinhart ( who isn't even a concencus 1st overall pick). I think those are the type of moves that leave the Canucks in the depth issues they face today. Kesler. Wowee. If he really wants out, he needs to pull his head out of his $&@ and expand his list. I am getting the sense his list decreased instead of increased. Again, Nash had a 10 team list whe he asked for trade. He expanded it to 12 after he wasn't trade at deadline. Sounds like Kes is doing the opposite which says to me he doesn't really want out - wich I guess is fine cause they're better with him o n roster.
  5. From Garrioch's column today, http://www.ottawasun.com/2014/06/14/calgary-flames-make-pitch-for-sens-captain-jason-spezza The other top option is the St. Louis Blues, but they've been holding talks with the Vancouver Canucks to see if there's any deal there for Ryan Kesler and may want to see where that leads.
  6. Botchford had mentioned a few days ago that Benning is really high on the local boys (Virtanen/Reinhart). And that Fla is high on Garrison and looking for a quality d-man in trade for 1st overall. While both Reinhart/Virtanen are great players, this smells like a "please the fans" move (like the Gillis firing/ Linden hiring) more than anything. I hope they take the best player available despite birth location. And if they are trading up, the only d-man that's expendable is Garrison (IMO). Tanev is too much to give-up IMO.
    1. Henrik Kesler

      Henrik Kesler

      I'd imagine Benning will try to make the Canucks contenders for the Corsi Cup based on how Boston plays. Boston is an elite possession which is why they've been so damn good the last 5 years.

  7. That's not true at all. He talks/writes about so many rumors - I've rarely heard him say what you've said. A guy like Friedman isn't going to speak on team 1040 (which he has done many times) and write articles about Kesler requesting a trade - when his source is some guy on twitter. He's been saying Kesler requested trade for months now - along with many other insiders. If it was inaccurate, the Canucks brass would be publicly talking about "how Kesler hasn't requested a trade". Insiders like Friedman don't go around talking about high end players requesting trades when they have 3rd string sources - they'd get skewered. I don't have any NHL sources, that's why I rely on a few key 'insiders' to lead the way. When all of said insiders have said Kesler asked for a trade - I'm going to believe them. I don't necessarily think he's 'forcing' a trade, after all - he could Marty St. Louis this team if he wanted. But I think the Canucks are trying to convince him to stay - and I think that's a bad idea for many different reasons. I think they are best off trading him this summer - if he'll agree to expand his list. If not, things get dicey.
  8. There is nothing misleading about: Nor it is it the first time he, or any other hockey insider, has said this. Some of the hockey insiders piggy back off eachother - not all. The McKenzies, Friedmans, LeBrun will get their own confirmation. All have said Kesler asked for a trade. Linden/Benning have never denied Kesler asked for a trade when they're asked about it every other day. Keslers agent is now talking about it on record. I don't know people are still debating about it's validity. When it happened, why it happened is up for debate IMO.
  9. Friedman was saying "what it would take to change his mind ...... to stay in Vancouver". Meaning, he doesn't want to be here. Even regardless of what Friedman posted, every other hockey insider has said Kesler asked for a trade. Every single one. Not sure why people are even debating it at this point. Why did Kesler deny it? Who knows. Prob cause he's not guaranteed to be moved, and he doesn't want to be booed in his own arena (like Luongo did). Or get horassed by fans on the street who are angry he requested a trade. Or cause he came up through the pro ranks with most guys on his current team and doesn't want to offend them.
  10. I'm a bit confused by your post, but that's ok. Been a long day Friedman, LeBrun, Botchford, Lavoie, Mckenzie have all stated Kesler requested a trade (Freidman reiterated it in his collumn). I don't think he re-requested a trade with the new regime, I think the request was always on the table (just as Luongos was). Kesler denied the trade request, as did Bieksa. So whys Kesler agent talking on the record about "what it would take to change Keslers mind"? And why would all of these hockey insiders say that he has requested a trade - as fact. Linden and Benning have been very open about talking to Kesler about his future plans with this team. If there was nothing there, why didn't they specifically talk about talking to the Sedins, or Bieksa, or any other Canuck? I don't know how anyone could think he didn't request a trade. Prob the same people who think Luongo didn't request a trade. And because I believe that, I can't see how they want to keep him. He doesn't want to be here, why would they want him here. Time to make the trade IMO.
  11. Ya, at this point I'm taking it as true. Enough sources (Mckenzie, LeBrun, Friedman, Botch etc) have reported it. Now his agent is talking with the media about it - which is not ideal. At all. Just pray to the hockey gods that he expands his list or it's gonna be a tough trade.
  12. Friedmans 30 thoughts today: It's time to trade Kesler. I've been on the fence for some time, not sure what rumors to believe. But Friedman is writing in 'facts' with this piece. As in fact: Kesler asked for a trade. Kesler wants to win sooooooo badly that of the 23 other teams in the league, the Avalanche and Red Wings have a better shot at the cup over LA, SJS, STL, Bost etc? Caman. He wants out of Van and he wants a select destination (which is technically his right with a NTC). You don't think the Sedins, or 85% of the Canucks current roster, haven't suffered through some painful losses? Caman. Don't hear them requesting a trade. It's time to send Kesler on his merry way and get the best package available.
  13. This officiating is bringing back 10/11 SCF memories. Suspect.

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    2. Wheels22

      Wheels22

      Every few years a Canadian team does a run, and loses to an American team in the finals.. It's the best thing for business

    3. RunningWild

      RunningWild

      Ya, it's a gong show and ruins the game for me. Most NHL officials need to go back to zerbra school

    4. Ghostsof1915

      Ghostsof1915

      What's that phrase. What do you give a starving horse to get a good day's work out of him. Just enough to know he's hungry.

  14. Various stats nerds have gone back and manually calculated possession metrics for many teams (for the yrs not posted on Extra Skater etc). You might be able to find them on the net somewhere. Ya, I assume re-tooling as well -based on Lindens comments. Should I include my fingerprints too? Stevens would be my choice - as he was last season (and allegedly Gillis's too). LAs been a top possession team for many yrs (esp under his tenure), had success with a great back end (just as Van has a great back end IMO). LA hasn't always been a powerhouse team, but have well above avg possesion metrics since he joined the team (of course, it could be coincidence with a team developing). They use advanced stats, get updates between periods - so he's not only familiar but experienced with them. In particular, I like his usage of the dmen (which was apparently his responsibility). It suggest to me that he would deploy "Sedin like" zone starts for the forwards and d-men to suit they strengths.
  15. Ya, the earliest season you can find advanced stats online is 07/08. Extra skater, Behind the Net, also another great site for WOWYs etc: Link It's kind of odd that we don't really know what this teams plan is for next season. Are they re-buidling, re-tooling? I wonder if Lindens doesn't know and he's waiting for a new GM to determine this.
  16. Ya I totally agree, there's more context to take into account re: Nashville. But from what I've seen, it's enough to raise a red flag from my perspective. Ya, I knew Van was a decent possession team last yr. It happens, rarely, that a strong possession team doesn't make the playoffs. IMO had Torts followed advanced stats this team would have been in the playoffs. But I guess that's off topic.
  17. Ya, I wasn't trying to say Nashs problems were strictly up front. A poster was saying Nash was weak up front and Trotz did the best with what he had. My analysis is based on more of a macro approach. Of course no 2 rosters are the same in the league. Both Nash and NJD are considered defense first teams - but one has had consistently better possession metrics. And again, my major concern is advanced stats and possesion metrics with Trotz.
  18. I'd say NJD is a pretty good example for what the poster and I were discussing. They are weak up front, not stacked on the back end - yet their coach has been able to get them being one of the top possession teams in league yr after yr. Yes, I'm assuming he doesn't implement advanced stats in his coaching. If he does, then I'm still concerned he's not getting better results with the metrics. I am not pinning the fact Nash is weak up front on Trotz. I posed the question, are they weak up front cause of drafting or coaching? It's been a consistent problem for them for last few years - that makes it a red flag IMO.
  19. Like I already said, advanced stats aren't everything. There will always be gut feelings and the eye test - even with the Quenvilles/MclEllans etc. I agree, I am making an assumption. The coaches/teams who use advanced stats have been vocal or pinpointed over time. I never saw Trotz on that list. Every team has limitations, every coach does as well. For a defense first team - which was his teams biggest asset (same with Van IMO) - they weren't as effective as then could been CA/60. Fr example, NJD has similar issues to Nash up front (def don't have a Weber) and are a stellar defense first team. It reflects in their metrics. I agree and have already stated advanced stats are the everything. But they are significant IMO. I am surprised nobody is questioning the fact that his team hasn't been good up front for many years. Is it drafting? Or is it his coaching? Canucks aren't stacked up front, they're gonna need a coach who can get the best out of them as well. There are things I like about Trotz. He a western conference coach, seems patient, not many complaints from previous players. All good signs. But there are better candidates IMO.... namely Stevens.
  20. Our version of 'old school' differs, cause their usage of advanced stats implies they aren't old school from my perspective. Do I have evidence he doesn't do the same thing? I have never read any piece about Trotz and advanced stats - so I assume he doesn't use them. Perhaps you have evidence he does? By his teams metrics I also assume he doesn't. Could he learn? Definitely. The question is, does he want to? Is he willing to implement new metrics into his coaching techniques? That is the million dollar question for me.
  21. Hitchcock, McLellan, Quenville, Julien and AV disagree. Each of those coaches have openly been tied to using advanced stats, some of them get advanced stats updates between periods - and all have top possession teams in league yr after yr. Of course they don't use them for everything, not sure that's even possible. I'm saying the Canucks need a coach like that, a coach who uses unique deployment patterns when they don't have the best roster to utilize their group. Tortz hasn't been that man. I can't really speak for anything before 07/08 cause they didn't keep advanced stats before then. But I will say P. Kariya days were a much different NHL IMO, much like when Torts won his Cup. The league has changed drastically guys like Torts have failed to adapt, I'm concerned Trotz is the same type of coach. I'm not concerned that he'd bring a defense first approach to Van, I don't really need this team to be exciting to watch. My main concern is I want them to be a top possession team - cause without that they're not getting anywhere near the Cup. And Trotz has never produced possesion stats over 52%. It's concerning.
  22. It's a good question. The answer is possession stats aren't just about the forwards, they are defense as well (note: advanced stats have only been around since 07/08). There's no doubt that there were some years he had an average or below avg forward group - but so did other teams such as Phx, NJD. There is a question whether he's capable of developing forward prospects or whether Nash drafted poorly in the forward dept. It's usually assistant coaches respon to coach defense, coaches job to coach forwards. Why has there never really been strong forwards to come out of that team? I also question his usage of the his forwards (zone starts mainly). That team had Hamhuis, Suter, Weber for some years and have been a top 10 puck possession team exactly once. They have been in the bottom half of league more than top half under his tenure. For a defense first team, they have only been top 5 in corsi-against for one yr. NJD hasn't had a Weber/Suter/Hamhuis in last few yrs, have weak forward group - but have been top 10 puck possession team for last 6 of 7 yrs. They are a defense first team with stellar defense possession stats - which lead to strong overall possesion stats. It's is possible.
  23. Gotta say (like I did last summer when they hired Torts), I think they're making a huge mistake if they hire Trotz. He's never coached a team with strong puck possession metrics. His team has had abysmal, red flag type possession #'s - and that's beyond concerning. Watching the Predators, looking at the teams advanced stats, usages etc - my concern level is as high as when they hired Torts. This teams needs a new school, innovative thinker who uses/understands advanced stats. Who understands it's a new NHL and knows how to adapt to it. Not Trotz.
  24. Ya its a good point, but I think this group has been very fragile since the SCF loss. They're generally an older group so you'd hope they'd be ok longterm - but the questions still there. I think this team needs a guy who can coach in the new NHL. Advanced stats are the future (and current for teams like LA, Chi, STL) - this teams needs a coach who understands them. A coach who can asses this teams biggest strength and build a system around it, a coach who understands the western conference. I still think, have have thought for some time, that guy is Stevens. If Bylsmas canned, he's another option IMO.
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